Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: rosscrazyelk on March 30, 2017, 01:32:33 PM
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I had one awhile back and liked it. It would count my miles walked. And etc. I lost it hunting ..
With the new on x maps avaiable on the phone is it worth having a GPS. ?
And go
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I carry both my gps and phone with me. Maybe it's wasting space, but I know that my GPS won't run out of battery like my phone does.
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A GPS is a must..... I carry my phone but keep it turned off so it never makes a noise and the battery is full should I need it.
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GPS, leave the phone off to save battery, and use as a backup.
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I use my phone and carry a backup battery if I'm out longer than a couple of days. It does everything 10x better than any gps out there. I still carry the GPS as a backup, but other than turning it on to mark the truck, I haven't used it for two or three years. The phone is just such a better tool for me.
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I greatly prefer a dedicated GPS for battery life, durability, and protection of my phone for other purposes.
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I'd get the GPS. It's far superior to the phone when it comes to onXmaps use among other things.
You'll also find it fun to take up geocaching with your littles. It's a fun treasure hunt and will get them outdoors.
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Gps with good topo maps is priceless :twocents:
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GPS is a must have for me, save the phone battery although I have Onx on it too. Get the right one and you don't worry about a heavy downpour getting it wet. I leave mine on all day clipped in one of the outside pockets of my pack.
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:) Had a GPS for about 7 years now, have not used it or my phone ever for navigation. I got lost a couple times over night 30 years ago. never happens anymore
Carl
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There must be a lot of people who hunt hike or fish within 3g cell coverage but over East of the Big Hill in the Dry Trees cell coverage is maybe a text that goes through in 5 min A good GPS is A must if you venture into new areas or if the weather socks in. :twocents:
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I use my phone, and have a solar battery pack that weighs nothing for a backup, I bought my Kyocera specifically because it is waterproof, works when it's colder then I care to be in, shockproof, touchscreen works with gloves, and the battery life is amazing. Only problem I've had was my own fault, accidently deleted all my saved map tiles on onx, luckily I found some reception and re-downloaded what I needed.
I like the fact that I've got aerial veiws at my disposal, really has come in handy a few times. when I get a new phone I'm going to delete all the bloatware crap and use it as a dedicated gps, and cache for ham repeaters and such.
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There must be a lot of people who hunt hike or fish within 3g cell coverage but over East of the Big Hill in the Dry Trees cell coverage is maybe a text that goes through in 5 min A good GPS is A must if you venture into new areas or if the weather socks in. :twocents:
Maps can be saved for offline use, no need for cell signal, my phone hits airplane mode as soon as I'm out if the truck.
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There must be a lot of people who hunt hike or fish within 3g cell coverage but over East of the Big Hill in the Dry Trees cell coverage is maybe a text that goes through in 5 min A good GPS is A must if you venture into new areas or if the weather socks in. :twocents:
Maps can be saved for offline use, no need for cell signal, my phone hits airplane mode as soon as I'm out if the truck.
PIA to download the maps. Then if you want to check a different area out you got to find cell service and download that area. With a gps you can have the whole state or 3 states and never have to worry about downloads or memory.
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Don't have aierial views, handy notepads, big high def screens etc either with a GPS, but yeah, if your going to new areas it can be a pain to download on the fly for sure, to me, the benefits outweigh the cons. The last gps I had was a Garmin Oregon 400, hated the screen navigation, maybe a GPS 64 or one of the bigger touch screen models might work better, and I just don't realize :dunno:
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There must be a lot of people who hunt hike or fish within 3g cell coverage but over East of the Big Hill in the Dry Trees cell coverage is maybe a text that goes through in 5 min A good GPS is A must if you venture into new areas or if the weather socks in. :twocents:
So true. Especially when you get away from the roads a reasonable distance.
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No cell service in the areas I hunt in a few states. Honestly, I personally do most of my navigation with map, compass, and/or a familiarization with the country I'm hunting but the GPS units are nice to mark kill sites, spots of interest, and generally to play around with in between hunting ;)
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My GPS is about $200 new. My phone is about $700 new, and more fragile. ;)
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Ok cool. Thanks guys.. I was reading a article from a guy who uses his phone. Downloads the areas he is going on the phone and puts it on airplane mode. Phone will last for 5 days on one charge in that mode.
I know someone selling a Garmin oregon 550 so I might pick it up for back up
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Ok cool. Thanks guys.. I was reading a article from a guy who uses his phone. Downloads the areas he is going on the phone and puts it on airplane mode. Phone will last for 5 days on one charge in that mode.
I know someone selling a Garmin oregon 550 so I might pick it up for back up
Question. So using your phone and have the area maps downloaded. Phone is on airplane mode and/or no cell service area. Under those circumstances does it show where you are on the map? Can you mark wallows, areas of interest, back country camp site, and so forth? I always assumed not but am I assuming wrong with what seems to be so many folks using the phone?
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I don't own a phone, where I hunt they don't work. A 7.5 quad sheet and Silva compass is all you need. No batteries required. A pen or pencil to mark spots.
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I had one awhile back and liked it. It would count my miles walked. And etc. I lost it hunting ..
With the new on x maps avaiable on the phone is it worth having a GPS. ?
And go
Rino. Get the best one you can afford.
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I had one awhile back and liked it. It would count my miles walked. And etc. I lost it hunting ..
With the new on x maps avaiable on the phone is it worth having a GPS. ?
And go
I know zilch about the XMaps but I do know that Game Planner Maps is a great company that allows you to browse maps on line, create custom hard copy maps, "and" load maps on your phone that can be used where you get no cell service. I tried it out last year for a WA permit area and it worked like a charm (had a custom printed map, and, was able to use my cell for navigation/marking POIs, etc.). It was the first time my GPS took a backseat to my Iphone ;).
http://gameplannermaps.com/
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Ok cool. Thanks guys.. I was reading a article from a guy who uses his phone. Downloads the areas he is going on the phone and puts it on airplane mode. Phone will last for 5 days on one charge in that mode.
I know someone selling a Garmin oregon 550 so I might pick it up for back up
Question. So using your phone and have the area maps downloaded. Phone is on airplane mode and/or no cell service area. Under those circumstances does it show where you are on the map? Can you mark wallows, areas of interest, back country camp site, and so forth? I always assumed not but am I assuming wrong with what seems to be so many folks using the phone?
You do not need a cell signal for the gps on a phone to work as long as it is an LTE enabled phone. The gps is built into it along with an antennae. So if you have maps for where you are downloaded it will show where you are at. If you don't have maps downloaded you will get your location dot on a blank screen. You will have coordinates available to read, but those don't help without a map of some kind to reference them to.
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I prefer a GPS in the field. Batteries last longer, its more durable & I don't have to remember to download areas. They also work with gloves on.
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Onx maps updated a few months back and now you can save maps with high and low detail, meaning save maps for the core area you will be hunting in high detail, and use low detail for the greater area around in case you end up wandering a little farther than expected. Put your phone in a good case, use airplane mode to save battery and you can do everything a gps can do plus make calls home if you hit a patch of service.
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A 7.5 quad sheet and Silva compass is all you need.
Bingo!!
Unfortunately, with the instant gratification of the internet and smartphones today, I don't think the younger generation will ever develop the skills required to enjoy the simplicity of paper map navigation.
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We get it. And some people still enjoy communicating via morse code and ham radio. It's all good. Why be so cynical.
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What is the absolute best resolution you can get with a paper map? My daughter ended up shooting her buck 25 yards from the boundary of the unit, no fence or ridgeline to show where it was. We knew exactly where we were as well as how to get in and out of there without trespassing.
Paper is great for general direction finding, but like a scope compared with iron sights, you will get more opportunities at legal animals if you bring out a few more tools.
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My suspicion is that most people who don't like GPS and favor maps have never mastered the use of a GPS. :twocents:
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My suspicion is that most people who don't like maps and favor GPS have never mastered the use of a map. :twocents:
Fixed it for ya. :hello:
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My suspicion is that most people who don't like maps and favor GPS have never mastered the use of a map. :twocents:
Fixed it for ya. :hello:
A handheld GPS is a map. It is a compass. It is a pen. It's a notepad. It is a altimeter. It has a back light. You can shoot an azimuth. You can measure a distance. It is many tools folded into one.
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GPS is not a replacement for map and compass skills. It's an excellent and easy tool to be used with the understanding that it can fail. Know how to use a map and compass, how to triangulate and account for declination and keep a map in your pack and a compass around your neck. But, as long as it runs, a good quality, strong GPS is hard to beat for hunting hard all day and knowing exactly where your are when it's time to go home. I always have all three on me in the woods. I rarely use the map and compass anymore.
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I can’t think of any function a map can do that a GPS can’t; I can think of plenty of things a GPS can do that a map can’t.
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I like using UTM coordinates for getting a quick fix on my map, and otherwise, I like using the GPS to find a bearing between waypoints. But otherwise, a map and compass are indispensable.
For people looking to improve their map and compass skills, I recommend this book.
https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Navigation-Finding-Altimeter-Mountaineers/dp/1594859450/
REI offers orienteering courses, and last I checked, they use this book.
Teaching kids maps reading and orienteering is also a fun activity while out camping.
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
And you probably wear boots, too. :chuckle:
Think of a map as a wide screen GPS that you don't have to go through clunky menus to see exactly what you want.
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
Weight and loss of "experience"
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
Weight and loss of "experience"
Ah yes - the experience of not being able to find my truck in the dark with just a map. I forget that fun part. ;)
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Does add flavor to a story :chuckle:
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
Weight and loss of "experience"
Then there is the loss of signal in the deep and dark areas or areas blocking southerly exposure.
I don't always get a signal, but I can follow along exactly where I am with map in hand, mostly. That's why it's nice to check UTM coordinates, once I am back in the clear, for a quick fix on the map.
But the GPS is a nice comfort in a white out, even if you are still completely disoriented with the GPS.
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That's a short version of what happened to me. The one time I relied on the gps. Lost signal then was in trouble. If I had my head in the game or would have had a compass in my pocket, all would have been fine. Lesson learned. One less gadget I had to buy or carry.
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It's amazing how quickly things can go from light and wide open to dark and completely socked in like pea soup. I had to look at my GPS (with signal) several times in disbelief, because I was so disoriented and in disbelief about where I was, everything looked foreign, and I had no trust in my ability to determine my location. It was surreal.
GPS is nice and convenient. Compass and map are convenient and good insurance. Both are a good complement.
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Something I’ve used a GPS for on multiple occasions is creating a waypoint for an animal I’m hunting, and making a blind stalk. I range the animal, take a bearing on it, and plug the waypoint into my GPS. I can then “go to” the animal’s waypoint staying completely out of sight. The GPS tells me the distance to the animal as I stalk it. When I get to a shootable distance, I can start looking for a good spot to shoot from. I’ve done that innumerable times with antelope, and a couple times with elk. The last elk I did it with was 1360 yards away when I started. I blind-stalked within 115 yards before peeking over a ridge to see and shoot it; it never knew I was there.
With mapping programs I know exactly where I am, and where the boundaries are of the property I’m on. I can see landowner information for private land. I can find access to public properties that have just a tiny sliver accessible that I wouldn’t be able to do otherwise.
I know which GMU I’m in, which deer area I’m in, which elk area I’m in.
I can mark my dead animal and easily find it without flagging tape when making multiple retrievals. I can leave a bread crumb track of the path I walked out, so if I need to return in the dark I can follow it.
Sunrise/sunset information is available for my location, and any location I choose. I’ve hunted some special hunts in February and March. When does the regulation pamphlet indicate that legal shooting time ends on February 15?
If I get lost or injured I can give my exact location. With RINO models the information is transmitted automatically.
I do use maps to see the “large picture” sometimes, but just can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to also take advantage of the many functions a tool that weighs half a pound offers.
To each his own.
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I carry a GPS because when I am exhausted and in the thick nasty stuff it is nice to look at the GPS and see the shortest route to the trial. I have never had one fail, but they do allow you to take your head out of the game and not pay attention to your surroundings.
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
Weight and loss of "experience"
I teach map skills to kids. I'll never lose the experience. I can't imagine that anyone would forget to know how to use a map and compass once they know how. :dunno: Weight? Not a big factor for me. If it gets to be, I shouldn't have any trouble losing another 12 oz! :)
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Something I’ve used a GPS for on multiple occasions is creating a waypoint for an animal I’m hunting, and making a blind stalk. I range the animal, take a bearing on it, and plug the waypoint into my GPS. I can then “go to” the animal’s waypoint staying completely out of sight. The GPS tells me the distance to the animal as I stalk it. When I get to a shootable distance, I can start looking for a good spot to shoot from. I’ve done that innumerable times with antelope, and a couple times with elk. The last elk I did it with was 1360 yards away when I started. I blind-stalked within 115 yards before peeking over a ridge to see and shoot it; it never knew I was there.
With mapping programs I know exactly where I am, and where the boundaries are of the property I’m on. I can see landowner information for private land. I can find access to public properties that have just a tiny sliver accessible that I wouldn’t be able to do otherwise.
I know which GMU I’m in, which deer area I’m in, which elk area I’m in.
I can mark my dead animal and easily find it without flagging tape when making multiple retrievals. I can leave a bread crumb track of the path I walked out, so if I need to return in the dark I can follow it.
Sunrise/sunset information is available for my location, and any location I choose. I’ve hunted some special hunts in February and March. When does the regulation pamphlet indicate that legal shooting time ends on February 15?
If I get lost or injured I can give my exact location. With RINO models the information is transmitted automatically.
I do use maps to see the “large picture” sometimes, but just can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to also take advantage of the many functions a tool that weighs half a pound offers.
To each his own.
All of the above.
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Something I’ve used a GPS for on multiple occasions is creating a waypoint for an animal I’m hunting, and making a blind stalk. I range the animal, take a bearing on it, and plug the waypoint into my GPS. I can then “go to” the animal’s waypoint staying completely out of sight. The GPS tells me the distance to the animal as I stalk it. When I get to a shootable distance, I can start looking for a good spot to shoot from. I’ve done that innumerable times with antelope, and a couple times with elk. The last elk I did it with was 1360 yards away when I started. I blind-stalked within 115 yards before peeking over a ridge to see and shoot it; it never knew I was there.
Nice.
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The Ops original question was GPS vs. Phone map. My vote is GPS. While newer phones have GPS receivers these days, a dedicated GPS has a much more powerful receiver.
That said, I always carry a compass and topography map for the specific wilderness I'm hunting. And have done multiple scouting trips to learn the general topography. I love my GPS for finding backcountry camp in the dark at night after hunting, even though it never gets signal in the dark timber I can always get to a clearing for it to work. But I still check it against a map and compass, as my GPS is an older unit whose compass feature really sucks unless I'm moving. :-) (learned that the hard way once).
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What do you all use your GPS for? I just get out and hike, hunt, evaluate the terrain while I'm there. Beforehand I do look at aerial images and get an idea where I'm going, but after that I just go out and do it. Sometimes I use my phone to mark a point, but thats it.
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What do you all use your GPS for? I just get out and hike, hunt, evaluate the terrain while I'm there. Beforehand I do look at aerial images and get an idea where I'm going, but after that I just go out and do it. Sometimes I use my phone to mark a point, but thats it.
About 90% of the time, I am using it to see where I am in relation to the boundary between where I hunt and where I can't. The other 10% is figuring out where the nearest road/trail is to get out, how far I am from the truck, updated weather info or something like that.
When I am hunting a boundary, I might have it in my had for an extended period of time, several hours sometimes. When I'm not on a boundary, I might check it once or twice a day for a few seconds.
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What do you all use your GPS for? I just get out and hike, hunt, evaluate the terrain while I'm there. Beforehand I do look at aerial images and get an idea where I'm going, but after that I just go out and do it. Sometimes I use my phone to mark a point, but thats it.
99% off the time I don't use it. When I do, it's to mark a location of my trail cam, kill spot, good looking sign, wallow, bedding area, etc.
Marking the truck is something I usually do as well.
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What do you all use your GPS for? I just get out and hike, hunt, evaluate the terrain while I'm there. Beforehand I do look at aerial images and get an idea where I'm going, but after that I just go out and do it. Sometimes I use my phone to mark a point, but thats it.
Hunting new areas. Tracking hit animals. Finding out the shortest route to the road from a downed animal. Finding my buddy who's let me know he's in trouble or needs assistance (big deal with us old guys). Finding my way in thick fog when I can't recognize my surroundings. It's also my radio and weather radio.
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
Weight and loss of "experience"
I teach map skills to kids. I'll never lose the experience. I can't imagine that anyone would forget to know how to use a map and compass once they know how. :dunno: Weight? Not a big factor for me. If it gets to be, I shouldn't have any trouble losing another 12 oz! :)
Not what I meant by experience exactly. Ever like to take a step back to what it was like? Along the lines of less tech is better. As Bob said, to each is own. I just was trying to answer your question.
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What do you all use your GPS for? I just get out and hike, hunt, evaluate the terrain while I'm there. Beforehand I do look at aerial images and get an idea where I'm going, but after that I just go out and do it. Sometimes I use my phone to mark a point, but thats it.
I use mine mainly for waypoints, back trail.
I mark kill sights, trails points (where I leave a trail), intersections, nice hunting spots, whether I saw deer/elk how many etc...
When I get home, I load my tracks into Basecamp, and document what I saw (deer other critters), weather, etc.
I have a pretty good historical collection of the areas I have hunted over years.
Then I also upload waypoints and tracks that I have researched before my hunt.
I still breakout the compass now and then to knock the rust off, LOL
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It's certainly a decision that each hunter makes. As long as it is legal, "right" is in the eyes of each hunter. After all, we all use a heavy dose of technology - everyone drives the animal home in a vehicle and puts it in a freezer. Most of us use a rifle, carbon fiber bows & arrows, binoculars, scopes, range finders, synthetic clothes, packs, tents, fuel and an endless amount of stuff that wasn't available even short while ago historically speaking.
Some of us want the greatest opportunity at killing a legal animal. Some of us want a specific experience (or budget!) and thus only employ certain technology while not using other technology.
Heck, for a big bunch of people on the planet today, a compass and map is high-tech.
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Something I’ve used a GPS for on multiple occasions is creating a waypoint for an animal I’m hunting, and making a blind stalk. I range the animal, take a bearing on it, and plug the waypoint into my GPS. I can then “go to” the animal’s waypoint staying completely out of sight. The GPS tells me the distance to the animal as I stalk it. When I get to a shootable distance, I can start looking for a good spot to shoot from. I’ve done that innumerable times with antelope, and a couple times with elk. The last elk I did it with was 1360 yards away when I started. I blind-stalked within 115 yards before peeking over a ridge to see and shoot it; it never knew I was there.
With mapping programs I know exactly where I am, and where the boundaries are of the property I’m on. I can see landowner information for private land. I can find access to public properties that have just a tiny sliver accessible that I wouldn’t be able to do otherwise.
I know which GMU I’m in, which deer area I’m in, which elk area I’m in.
I can mark my dead animal and easily find it without flagging tape when making multiple retrievals. I can leave a bread crumb track of the path I walked out, so if I need to return in the dark I can follow it.
Sunrise/sunset information is available for my location, and any location I choose. I’ve hunted some special hunts in February and March. When does the regulation pamphlet indicate that legal shooting time ends on February 15?
If I get lost or injured I can give my exact location. With RINO models the information is transmitted automatically.
I do use maps to see the “large picture” sometimes, but just can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to also take advantage of the many functions a tool that weighs half a pound offers.
To each his own.
Last spring I spotted a bear from over a mile off. I was able to mark which basin it was in from where I was sitting in my car, I then drove around to the opposite side of the ridge where I had planned to set camp, set my camp and made about a mile and a half trek to the basin where I knew the bear to be. I did all of that with onx maps on my phone. After I shot the bear I switched over to phone and called my wife and a buddy to let them know of my success. There is almost no reason in this day for a dedicated GPS. I have yet to see a time when my phone could not be used for navigation.
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Assuming you have orienteering skills and keep a map and compass on you, why would someone not use a good GPS all the time? I can use an abacus, but I much prefer to do payroll using a computer. :dunno:
Weight and loss of "experience"
I teach map skills to kids. I'll never lose the experience. I can't imagine that anyone would forget to know how to use a map and compass once they know how. :dunno: Weight? Not a big factor for me. If it gets to be, I shouldn't have any trouble losing another 12 oz! :)
Not what I meant by experience exactly. Ever like to take a step back to what it was like? Along the lines of less tech is better. As Bob said, to each is own. I just was trying to answer your question.
I got it. I'm just really well served by a good GPS. :dunno:
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That's 8). That's better than getting a message I need to go look for you.
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That's 8). That's better than getting a message I need to go look for you.
Well, you may indeed get the message. But, you'll have exact coordinates to find me!
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Something I’ve used a GPS for on multiple occasions is creating a waypoint for an animal I’m hunting, and making a blind stalk. I range the animal, take a bearing on it, and plug the waypoint into my GPS. I can then “go to” the animal’s waypoint staying completely out of sight. The GPS tells me the distance to the animal as I stalk it. When I get to a shootable distance, I can start looking for a good spot to shoot from. I’ve done that innumerable times with antelope, and a couple times with elk. The last elk I did it with was 1360 yards away when I started. I blind-stalked within 115 yards before peeking over a ridge to see and shoot it; it never knew I was there.
With mapping programs I know exactly where I am, and where the boundaries are of the property I’m on. I can see landowner information for private land. I can find access to public properties that have just a tiny sliver accessible that I wouldn’t be able to do otherwise.
I know which GMU I’m in, which deer area I’m in, which elk area I’m in.
I can mark my dead animal and easily find it without flagging tape when making multiple retrievals. I can leave a bread crumb track of the path I walked out, so if I need to return in the dark I can follow it.
Sunrise/sunset information is available for my location, and any location I choose. I’ve hunted some special hunts in February and March. When does the regulation pamphlet indicate that legal shooting time ends on February 15?
If I get lost or injured I can give my exact location. With RINO models the information is transmitted automatically.
I do use maps to see the “large picture” sometimes, but just can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to also take advantage of the many functions a tool that weighs half a pound offers.
To each his own.
Last spring I spotted a bear from over a mile off. I was able to mark which basin it was in from where I was sitting in my car, I then drove around to the opposite side of the ridge where I had planned to set camp, set my camp and made about a mile and a half trek to the basin where I knew the bear to be. I did all of that with onx maps on my phone. After I shot the bear I switched over to phone and called my wife and a buddy to let them know of my success. There is almost no reason in this day for a dedicated GPS. I have yet to see a time when my phone could not be used for navigation.
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when the battery is dead? When it breaks?
I think my garmin is a little tougher than my phone and when the batteries go i just slap some aa's in it. I use my phone a lot when hunting but i ain't givin up the garmin yet :twocents:
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Get a AA charger for your phone or a battery pack than can charge it 3-4 times. Stand alone GPS units are dead, they just don't know it yet. In a few years, they will be in the same drawer as your iPod and Tom Tom.
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Something I’ve used a GPS for on multiple occasions is creating a waypoint for an animal I’m hunting, and making a blind stalk. I range the animal, take a bearing on it, and plug the waypoint into my GPS. I can then “go to” the animal’s waypoint staying completely out of sight. The GPS tells me the distance to the animal as I stalk it. When I get to a shootable distance, I can start looking for a good spot to shoot from. I’ve done that innumerable times with antelope, and a couple times with elk. The last elk I did it with was 1360 yards away when I started. I blind-stalked within 115 yards before peeking over a ridge to see and shoot it; it never knew I was there.
With mapping programs I know exactly where I am, and where the boundaries are of the property I’m on. I can see landowner information for private land. I can find access to public properties that have just a tiny sliver accessible that I wouldn’t be able to do otherwise.
I know which GMU I’m in, which deer area I’m in, which elk area I’m in.
I can mark my dead animal and easily find it without flagging tape when making multiple retrievals. I can leave a bread crumb track of the path I walked out, so if I need to return in the dark I can follow it.
Sunrise/sunset information is available for my location, and any location I choose. I’ve hunted some special hunts in February and March. When does the regulation pamphlet indicate that legal shooting time ends on February 15?
If I get lost or injured I can give my exact location. With RINO models the information is transmitted automatically.
I do use maps to see the “large picture” sometimes, but just can’t understand why someone wouldn’t want to also take advantage of the many functions a tool that weighs half a pound offers.
To each his own.
Last spring I spotted a bear from over a mile off. I was able to mark which basin it was in from where I was sitting in my car, I then drove around to the opposite side of the ridge where I had planned to set camp, set my camp and made about a mile and a half trek to the basin where I knew the bear to be. I did all of that with onx maps on my phone. After I shot the bear I switched over to phone and called my wife and a buddy to let them know of my success. There is almost no reason in this day for a dedicated GPS. I have yet to see a time when my phone could not be used for navigation.
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when the battery is dead? When it breaks?
I think my garmin is a little tougher than my phone and when the batteries go i just slap some aa's in it. I use my phone a lot when hunting but i ain't givin up the garmin yet :twocents:
You take out your map and compass. I also keep a AAA battery pack in my pack if the lithium battery dies.
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Get a AA charger for your phone or a battery pack than can charge it 3-4 times. Stand alone GPS units are dead, they just don't know it yet. In a few years, they will be in the same drawer as your iPod and Tom Tom.
Its Already there!
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GPS units are far from experiencing the fate of the dinosaur, especially multi-function units like the more advanced Rinos.
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Phones have some advantages over dedicated GPS units, but I still prefer a dedicated GPS in most instances for the following reasons:
1. Durability. My GPS has been through rain, mud, dragged along the ground while I belly crawl through sage brush, tossed in my pack, jammed in a pocket, thrown in my truck, and it works. Every time.
2. Cost. See #1. If and when my GPS fails it will cost me $250-$300 to replace. If my phone breaks, it will cost me $600 to $800 to replace.
3. Battery life. My GPS runs 16 hours on two AAs. To change them takes about 15 seconds. The two AAs cost me about $.50 and weigh a couple ounces.
4. Functionality. When I need to keep track of partners, I take my RINOs which provide peer-to-peer positioning without cell service. The radio provides the ability to contact emergency services in areas without cell coverage. I also don’t need to carry a separate walkie-talkie.
5. Custom maps. I’ve created and loaded a large number of custom maps for my GPS. It may be that the same technology exists with cellular devices if I’m willing to learn how to use it.
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That will be a nope I find GPS very unreliable to even get people to where I have lived the last 3 locations. No way I trust electronic devices over a good map and my own sense of direction. Especially in the forest.
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That will be a nope I find GPS very unreliable to even get people to where I have lived the last 3 locations. No way I trust electronic devices over a good map and my own sense of direction. Especially in the forest.
I think you may have missed the point. No one's saying that while using a GPS you should discard your map and compass - quite the opposite. Always have a map and compass.
I'm unsure what kind of GPS you've used, Run, but there are exceptional models available for hunting which lock up quickly in deep cover and are quite accurate to within a couple of feet.
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That will be a nope I find GPS very unreliable to even get people to where I have lived the last 3 locations. No way I trust electronic devices over a good map and my own sense of direction. Especially in the forest.
I think you may have missed the point. No one's saying that while using a GPS you should discard your map and compass - quite the opposite. Always have a map and compass.
I'm unsure what kind of GPS you've used, Run, but there are exceptional models available for hunting which lock up quickly in deep cover and are quite accurate to within a couple of feet.
I used to rely on my old etrex model (15+ yrs old) to guide me into my tree stands in the dark. The first time or two going in the dark, nothing looked familiar by flashlight. But the gps guidance was spot on.