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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: Keebler213 on April 06, 2017, 08:09:25 AM

Title: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: Keebler213 on April 06, 2017, 08:09:25 AM
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: Stickerbush on April 06, 2017, 08:39:12 AM: Tag
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: grundy53 on April 06, 2017, 08:42:05 AM: I heard him when he was on the Meateater podcast. Very interesting.

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Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: Kit Carson on April 07, 2017, 06:38:21 PM: Interesting. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: SeaRun1 on April 07, 2017, 06:55:09 PM: Quote from: grundy53 on April 06, 2017, 08:42:05 AM
I heard him when he was on the Meateater podcast. Very interesting.

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That was one of the best Meateater podcasts in my opinion. It is in the mid thirties as far as episodes go. I bought American Serengeti and Coyote America after I listened to it. Great reads.

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Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: grundy53 on April 07, 2017, 07:17:34 PM: Quote from: SeaRun1 on April 07, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
Quote from: grundy53 on April 06, 2017, 08:42:05 AM
I heard him when he was on the Meateater podcast. Very interesting.

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That was one of the best Meateater podcasts in my opinion. It is in the mid thirties as far as episodes go. I bought American Serengeti and Coyote America after I listened to it. Great reads.

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Agreed. One of my favorites. It's episode 33

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Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: aaronp13 on April 10, 2017, 08:07:58 PM: After hearing Dan Flores on the Joe Rogan podcast I am wondering if contests such as our very own "Coyote Madness" are doing any good to keep the coyote population in check?

From the sounds of it, coyotes respond to a decline in population by producing far more pups then they would have if left alone.

Dan Flores definitely presented a few ideas that I wasn't aware of or hadn't thought about before. Need to buy his book!
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on April 10, 2017, 08:55:32 PM: I listened to this episode while working out tonight. Dan has some interesting takes on predators, but there are things I would take exception to. Dan fails to recognize the impact that man has on animals by the sheer amount of habitat that is not productive because of urban sprawl. Many prey animals such as deer, and elk do not have the range to escape over predation like they did even a hundred years ago. He had a very hard time admitting even when cornered that coyotes will prey upon domestic animals like cats, and dogs. It also sounds as if he believes wolves would naturally regulate their population if we were not harvesting them. He tried to make the case that the dramatic drop in ungulate populations in wolf territories were mainly the case of environmental conditions, and that hunters are overstating the loss of game. He seems like a knowledgeable guy, but his views are definitely skewed towards predators, and their preservation.
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: justyhntr on April 14, 2017, 08:50:57 AM: :yeah: I listen to it twice , he definitely has a pro predator agenda and side steps certain questions . I just picked up his book from the library , should be an interesting read .
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: bulldogs40 on April 15, 2017, 03:54:31 PM: Joe Rogans podcast are great... This was one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: justyhntr on April 16, 2017, 11:06:39 AM: Read Flores's book , at least the introduction . I'm sure it will piss you off , there is no question Flores is of the pro predator agenda . Page 16 starting at the third paragraph he states that you can tell a persons political view by how they pronounce "coyote" . The educated urban liberal coyote lovers pronounce it one way and the rural coyote persecutors pronounce it another . His thought is that the urban way sound to foreign almost Spanish for the rural folks . It appears to me that he is pandering to the liberal left that want to "re-wild" this country in order to sell books . If Rogan and Rinella are going to pimp this guy and his views I have no use for them or the products they pimp .
If you decide to read his book , check it out from the library , don't waste your money .
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: Lucky1 on April 16, 2017, 01:08:08 PM: Quote from: aaronp13 on April 10, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
After hearing Dan Flores on the Joe Rogan podcast I am wondering if contests such as our very own "Coyote Madness" are doing any good to keep the coyote population in check?

From the sounds of it, coyotes respond to a decline in population by producing far more pups then they would have if left alone.

Dan Flores definitely presented a few ideas that I wasn't aware of or hadn't thought about before. Need to buy his book!
I would like to see the science that backs up the assertion that we can't reduce the coyote population by shooting them. I kill every coyote that gives me the opportunity. I know when I kill one that there is now one less in the neighborhood. I have noticed that it seems to take awhile for other ones to move in. Then I kill them if I get a chance. I do think I am making the area safer for the local deer, small game, and pet populations.
Title: Re: Joe Rogan Dan Flores podcast on coyotes
Post by: ThomMedic on April 19, 2017, 11:31:32 AM: Even a temporary reduction of the coyote population within a specified area should allow time for the deer fawns to mature - a good thing. In Thurston county, I can see where deer under pressure are moving in to backyards for feeding being followed by coyotes, who in turn are feeding on domestic animals, in some cases only feet from the back door - a bad thing. Half of Thurston county is "no shooting zones."