Post by: jdb on April 10, 2017, 05:34:38 PM
Post by: gee_unit360 on April 10, 2017, 05:52:29 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on April 10, 2017, 05:59:20 PM
Post by: Mfowl on April 10, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 10, 2017, 06:18:48 PM
in order:
Ridgeline
Canyon
Colorado
Tacoma
Frontier
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 10, 2017, 06:27:16 PM
Are you seriously asking that question...
:yeah:
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 10, 2017, 06:32:38 PM
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Post by: jjhunter on April 10, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
Post by: ribka on April 10, 2017, 06:42:28 PM
Of the 2017 mid-sized pickups, the Canyon rated the highest behind the Honda Ridgeline.
in order:
Ridgeline
Canyon
Colorado
Tacoma
Frontier
Post by: thinkingman on April 10, 2017, 07:19:06 PM
The only advantage for the Toy is fanboy resale.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 10, 2017, 07:20:11 PM
I would take a long bed Z71 Duramax over a Tacoma 10x out of 10.
The only advantage for the Toy is fanboy resale.
Why not just get a full size if your buying a long bed midsize :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on April 10, 2017, 07:30:48 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 10, 2017, 07:40:53 PM
Comparing a ridge line to a Tacoma ?😬Of the 2017 mid-sized pickups, the Canyon rated the highest behind the Honda Ridgeline.
in order:
Ridgeline
Canyon
Colorado
Tacoma
Frontier
The only place the Tacoma beat the Ridgeline is towing. Tacoma has 6000 lb tow rating and the Ridgeline has 5000 lb tow rating.
Ridgeline has the second highest payload capacity, the Tacoma has the least of the five.
The Ridgeline also had the highest MPG of 23
Ride, not even close. Ridgeline blew the doors of the Tacoma.
Ridgeline also smoked the Tacoma in the 0-60 by 1.3 seconds, Tacoma - 7.9 sec, Ridgeline - 6.6 sec.
Post by: Alchase on April 10, 2017, 07:54:56 PM
Post by: 2labs on April 10, 2017, 08:03:13 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 10, 2017, 08:05:26 PM
The ridge line isn't a pickup, it's a chickup :chuckle:
So what does that make the Tacoma?
Post by: 2labs on April 10, 2017, 08:06:31 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 10, 2017, 08:08:29 PM
Post by: Dhoey07 on April 10, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
Only 18mpg isn't worth buying a mini truck
Post by: 2labs on April 10, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
Tacoma will have a higher resale. Other differences are negligible IMO.
Only 18mpg isn't worth buying a mini truck
1 ton 7.3 gets 20?
Post by: Gobble Doc on April 10, 2017, 08:41:08 PM
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Post by: Dhoey07 on April 10, 2017, 08:41:22 PM
Tacoma will have a higher resale. Other differences are negligible IMO.
Only 18mpg isn't worth buying a mini truck
1 ton 7.3 gets 20?
1/2T dodge diesel gets mid 20's
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 10, 2017, 08:50:40 PM
I've wondered how good the new tacoma engines are. My 2003 has 394K and has never stranded me. Power window broke which wasn't cheap to fix..
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I would buy a 3.4 liter 2003 over any of the new trucks. Would love if they just made that truck again. I really like my 2007 4.0 though so far it's been great 140k
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on April 10, 2017, 09:00:05 PM
The ridge line has zero clearance, where I work we had 2 and you can bottom them out way to easy. Also they have a chip or at least used to where if they are on a steep grade they go into safe mode. They traded these in as quickly as they could and got Ram 2500's which is a world of a different truck.
Buddy had a canyon in 2010 he had it for 6 months and then went bigger. It couldn't tow like he wanted and never would have been his ideal truck like he thought. Tried to trade it to me across for my truck and I wouldn't do it.
If I were to get a new truck which will happen maybe when I hit 300k on my Tacoma so 5-7 more years at my rate I would probably go with a Ram 1500 with aeco diesel. If the new tacomas were still small they might be appealing but they lost all appeal now that they are huge.
My :twocents:
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 10, 2017, 09:06:32 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 10, 2017, 09:30:19 PM
You cannot argue 90% of ten year old toyotas(or 20 year old) are far better off than comparable s-10's or ford rangers.
Which would you chose? A 1985 Toyota, Ford Ranger or Chevy S-10? Which is most desirable and worth the most money? Go!
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 11, 2017, 06:35:18 AM
Loved my 2011 Tacoma but traded her in on a 2015 Silverado Z71. Got tired of the wimpy performance and terrible gas mileage when I towed anything. The tacos and mid other mid size trucks are great for many reasons, just don't tow much...Which is why GM put a little duramax in the Colorado/canyon now.
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Post by: Taco280AI on April 11, 2017, 07:56:15 AM
Post by: thinkingman on April 11, 2017, 08:09:34 AM
Post by: thinkingman on April 11, 2017, 08:11:39 AM
Parking/size.I would take a long bed Z71 Duramax over a Tacoma 10x out of 10.
The only advantage for the Toy is fanboy resale.
Why not just get a full size if your buying a long bed midsize :dunno:
Price.
Small diesel economy.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 11, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
Post by: Sandberm on April 12, 2017, 09:20:48 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 13, 2017, 11:40:35 AM
Post by: mountainman on April 13, 2017, 02:24:53 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 13, 2017, 03:47:51 PM
Off road the Tacoma eats up the Colorado and Canyons. Aproach angle is important in the elk woods!
I dunno, the new empty space nose cone on the Taco could be fitted on the front of a B-52 and not look all that out of place. Or, you could use the space between the radiator and grill to pack out your deer??
Post by: KFhunter on April 13, 2017, 06:39:44 PM
Off road the Tacoma eats up the Colorado and Canyons. Aproach angle is important in the elk woods!
In stock trim with that air deflector yes, but easily remedied.
Post by: mikeybuck on April 13, 2017, 08:19:59 PM
Does anybody have or know someone who has a diesel Canyon/Colorado? I finally saw one at the convience store the other day but wasnt able to talk to the owner to see what he thought.my good buddy has one. Has almost 10k on it now. Not one single issue. His around town mpg is mid to high 20s and his freeway mileage is low 30s. Truck is leveled on 32s, 4x4, dcsb z71.
He said once the truck hit 8k miles, his mileage went up and he said it felt like it got more power.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 13, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 13, 2017, 11:30:58 PM
https://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-zr2-off-road-truck
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 13, 2017, 11:46:53 PM
The new ZR2 seems like a pretty capable off road rig. Is the Tacoma available with front and rear locking differentials?
https://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-zr2-off-road-truck
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I think you could add ARBs or E locker. Stock the Tacoma TRD comes with rear E locker but not a front locker.
Post by: Timberstalker on April 14, 2017, 05:34:56 AM
Toyota wins.
Post by: Bofire on April 14, 2017, 09:57:25 AM
Carl
Post by: 3dvapor on April 14, 2017, 10:45:56 AM
Post by: thinkingman on April 14, 2017, 11:00:46 AM
Off road the Tacoma eats up the Colorado and Canyons. Aproach angle is important in the elk woods!You must mean AFTER you replace the rear springs that Toyota just can't quite seem to spec and supply....and that's if the frame isn't too rotten to bolt them ob
Post by: fish vacuum on April 14, 2017, 02:17:23 PM
I'd rather replace leaf springs than some of the other things a truck might need done. If I lived in a place with road salt then the frame rust might make my radar.Off road the Tacoma eats up the Colorado and Canyons. Aproach angle is important in the elk woods!You must mean AFTER you replace the rear springs that Toyota just can't quite seem to spec and supply....and that's if the frame isn't too rotten to bolt them ob
Post by: shadowless_nite on April 15, 2017, 01:02:46 AM
Off road the Tacoma eats up the Colorado and Canyons. Aproach angle is important in the elk woods!You must mean AFTER you replace the rear springs that Toyota just can't quite seem to spec and supply....and that's if the frame isn't too rotten to bolt them ob
Gripe all you want about rotting toyota frame. Do tell me how many rusted out tacomas you yourself have experienced??? In the first year of recall over early tacoma frame rust I saw maybe 4-5 full frame swaps and maybe 10 traded in. I worked at vancouver toyota during this recall. And at that time they were the largest and dealer in the region.
You would be hard pressed to find a vehicle manufacturer that handled that the way they did, offering 1.5x vehicle value on trade buy back or frame swap. Not to mention the current resale on these same tacomas was never even phased by this. Logic would lead one to think that if tacomas had such horrible issues or poor performance there would be horrible resale value. Regardless of bro tax and hype they hold their value for obvious reasons.
As for the ridgeline. While they may be rated well in tests for this and that on new models, we work on plenty of earlier ridgelines and I can tell you they are garbage. Crap parts, butt ugly and if there's one thing honda can't ever get right it's a automatic transmission. Not to mention these "heavy duty" station wagons don't have actual frames and utilize a unibody instead, try dragging that over uneven obstacles. I've seen nothing in any of the newer Hondas to believe they've made significant changes to remedy similar problems in the future models
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 15, 2017, 04:41:05 AM
Off road the Tacoma eats up the Colorado and Canyons. Aproach angle is important in the elk woods!You must mean AFTER you replace the rear springs that Toyota just can't quite seem to spec and supply....and that's if the frame isn't too rotten to bolt them ob
Gripe all you want about rotting toyota frame. Do tell me how many rusted out tacomas you yourself have experienced??? In the first year of recall over early tacoma frame rust I saw maybe 4-5 full frame swaps and maybe 10 traded in. I worked at vancouver toyota during this recall. And at that time they were the largest and dealer in the region.
You would be hard pressed to find a vehicle manufacturer that handled that the way they did, offering 1.5x vehicle value on trade buy back or frame swap. Not to mention the current resale on these same tacomas was never even phased by this. Logic would lead one to think that if tacomas had such horrible issues or poor performance there would be horrible resale value. Regardless of bro tax and hype they hold their value for obvious reasons.
As for the ridgeline. While they may be rated well in tests for this and that on new models, we work on plenty of earlier ridgelines and I can tell you they are garbage. Crap parts, butt ugly and if there's one thing honda can't ever get right it's a automatic transmission. Not to mention these "heavy duty" station wagons don't have actual frames and utilize a unibody instead, try dragging that over uneven obstacles. I've seen nothing in any of the newer Hondas to believe they've made significant changes to remedy similar problems in the future models
I had the leaf spring recall on my truck. Couldn't believe how easy it was. Drove it up to dealer, free rental for the day, brand new 1600 dollar leafs installed. Truck washed and ready to go. No waiting for approval or inspection just did it.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 15, 2017, 09:53:21 PM
Post by: mountainman on April 16, 2017, 03:31:02 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 16, 2017, 10:27:27 AM
Post by: Alchase on April 16, 2017, 06:34:10 PM
As for the ridgeline. While they may be rated well in tests for this and that on new models, we work on plenty of earlier ridgelines and I can tell you they are garbage. Crap parts, butt ugly and if there's one thing honda can't ever get right it's a automatic transmission. Not to mention these "heavy duty" station wagons don't have actual frames and utilize a unibody instead, try dragging that over uneven obstacles. I've seen nothing in any of the newer Hondas to believe they've made significant changes to remedy similar problems in the future models
Apparently you did not read the reviews of the 2017 Midsized trucks very well. Have you driven a 2017 Ridgeline?
The Tacoma was also beaten by the Colorado and the Canyon. Actually you should be glad the other trucks have caught up with and past the Tacomas at least in initial quality. That can only lead to better and cheaper Tacomas. Competition is a good thing.
As for unibodies, I drove my unibody Jeep Cherokee LTD from Auburn Washington all the way to Moab Utah, wheeled for a week, then drove home, in comfort.
Tacomas are good trucks and for years there were only two mid-sized trucks to choose from the Tacoma and the Frontier. Now there are a few options that could fit the many different ways people use their trucks.
FYI Cars.com gives the Ridgeline 5 stars (out of 5) for customer Satisfaction and Reliability from 2008 - 2017,
The crazy fanboism does nothing for making a case.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 16, 2017, 07:00:23 PM
Post by: KFhunter on April 16, 2017, 07:24:03 PM
Quote
FYI Cars.com gives the Ridgeline 5 stars (out of 5) for customer Satisfaction and Reliability from 2008 - 2017
I have no doubt that the Ridgeline is a good car.
Post by: Alchase on April 16, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
Sucks to have a V6 and get less then 18 MPGs. My Ram got 15-16 on a good day.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 17, 2017, 12:45:59 PM
Post by: jdb on April 17, 2017, 12:54:06 PM
My two Taco's were both TRD Off Road Pre-runners. in about 300K miles on them combined they never saw over 19mpg on the best day driving like a saint. Most of the time average gravel/country road driving mixed with open interstate they got about 16-17mpg. Pull a small boat or the Casita and it would drop to 12-14mpg.so your the guy!! I've always wondered who bought the prerunners. My life dictates the need for 4x4, I see the prerunners out and bout a lot though.
Post by: Stickerbush on April 17, 2017, 02:08:10 PM
Post by: KFhunter on April 17, 2017, 02:39:48 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 18, 2017, 12:14:47 AM
My two Taco's were both TRD Off Road Pre-runners. in about 300K miles on them combined they never saw over 19mpg on the best day driving like a saint. Most of the time average gravel/country road driving mixed with open interstate they got about 16-17mpg. Pull a small boat or the Casita and it would drop to 12-14mpg.so your the guy!! I've always wondered who bought the prerunners. My life dictates the need for 4x4, I see the prerunners out and bout a lot though.
Owner of the company dictates the purchases. Excellent choice. I put miles on gravel, construction sites, driving to remote mine sites all over the western US. Never got stuck once. Diesel trucks bury in nose heavy as hell. Yes, every diesel in our fleet was 4x4. Because diesels get stuck twice as easy due to weight distribution.
Post by: shadowless_nite on April 18, 2017, 12:45:59 AM
As for the ridgeline. While they may be rated well in tests for this and that on new models, we work on plenty of earlier ridgelines and I can tell you they are garbage. Crap parts, butt ugly and if there's one thing honda can't ever get right it's a automatic transmission. Not to mention these "heavy duty" station wagons don't have actual frames and utilize a unibody instead, try dragging that over uneven obstacles. I've seen nothing in any of the newer Hondas to believe they've made significant changes to remedy similar problems in the future models
Apparently you did not read the reviews of the 2017 Midsized trucks very well. Have you driven a 2017 Ridgeline?
The Tacoma was also beaten by the Colorado and the Canyon. Actually you should be glad the other trucks have caught up with and past the Tacomas at least in initial quality. That can only lead to better and cheaper Tacomas. Competition is a good thing.
As for unibodies, I drove my unibody Jeep Cherokee LTD from Auburn Washington all the way to Moab Utah, wheeled for a week, then drove home, in comfort.
Tacomas are good trucks and for years there were only two mid-sized trucks to choose from the Tacoma and the Frontier. Now there are a few options that could fit the many different ways people use their trucks.
FYI Cars.com gives the Ridgeline 5 stars (out of 5) for customer Satisfaction and Reliability from 2008 - 2017,
The crazy fanboism does nothing for making a case.
Have you personally worked any Hondas yourself? Let alone ridgelines? I've worked on Hondas and toyotas both for a living for quite a few years now. And regardless of fanboism or car reviews ratings I can tell you that just because you read it was the best doesn't mean much. I have felt new and old ridglines, as well as new and old tacomas. I drive a 2000 tacoma with 320k sitting on the odometer. Would I think my tacoma rides better than a new ridgeline? Of course not without a doubt it probably rides a million times better. Almost any new truck rides pretty dang nice compared to old tin cans.
The ridgeline may not be my cup of tea or anyone elses. But if it floats some people's boats that's great, I'll consider it job security. Every man has his choice of truck but there are undoubtedly reasons why there is no hype over a ridgeline, no praise of honda for its truck or why they don't resale near as well.
All apples look good fresh on the tree, but not all apples have a shelf life, value and flavor as others do. With all the new mid size competition, I'm not interested in how they stack up now, I'm more interested in how the 2017s stack up 5 years from now with each other when warranties are over and components begin to wear.
Post by: Alchase on April 18, 2017, 09:58:19 AM
All apples look good fresh on the tree, but not all apples have a shelf life, value and flavor as others do. With all the new mid size competition, I'm not interested in how they stack up now, I'm more interested in how the 2017s stack up 5 years from now with each other when warranties are over and components begin to wear.
That is why I posted the last 10 years of reliability and satisfaction reports.
Funny every source I have read rates them extremely high in reliability.
Edmonds
Cars.com
Every car magazine rates them very high for reliability and customer satisfaction.
The same places that give the Tacoma great resale value.
Give credit where it is due.
The only fanboism played out here is from the Tacoma crowd.
I have never owned either, LOL
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 18, 2017, 02:52:07 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 18, 2017, 02:56:32 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 18, 2017, 06:01:34 PM
Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.
My 2007 Dakota wallowed like a fat lady on a water bed, until I replaced the ball joints and end links.
Feels like a totally different truck now.
Post by: fish vacuum on April 18, 2017, 08:03:08 PM
A dodge with front end problems? You don't hear that every day.Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.
My 2007 Dakota wallowed like a fat lady on a water bed, until I replaced the ball joints and end links.
Feels like a totally different truck now.
Oh wait. Yes you do.
Post by: Alchase on April 18, 2017, 08:25:05 PM
A dodge with front end problems? You don't hear that every day.Having driven a friends s-10 zr whatever....at 190k it was falling apart and made you feel drunk when going down the highway. He dumped it for the 2016 taco I drove a few times. It looked good but it drove and sounded like a tool box strapped to a skateboard going down a gravel road.
My 2007 Dakota wallowed like a fat lady on a water bed, until I replaced the ball joints and end links.
Feels like a totally different truck now.
Oh wait. Yes you do.
The people who designed the linkage in the Dakota front end should be tarred and feathered.
What a horrible design.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 19, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
Post by: Sandberm on April 19, 2017, 07:56:01 AM
But its had some bugaboos...
-The door bushings are junk. When they wear out, air comes whistling in the cab and its very noisy I changed them multiple times before going to Tacoma Screw and finding some heavy duty bushings, machining them a bit then rigging my own custom door hinge.
-Replaced driver side power window motor TWICE, passenger side once.
-In tank fuel pump went out at about 90k, left me stranded at the convience store
-Had to change radiator at 110k when it became clogged with the clay thats in dexcool
-Vacuum lines engage 4wd and ac vents. Vac lines originate off valve at top of tranny, when valve goes bad it lets tranny fluid into lines messing up ac/vent/defrost actuators.
-Intake gasket leaked for a LONG time. I finally changed it at 165k before things got deadly
Post by: Alchase on April 19, 2017, 10:59:27 AM
Aren't they all already at the scrap yard? Lol.
This one has 140k miles on this 2007 SLT 4x4.
I have replaced the brakes, front end as I said and tires.
Besides that, it has been a good truck for how much I put it to work.
The body and paint is in great condition.
3.7 is a dog getting up to 60 MPH but cruses well at 75 with low RPMs.
Mileage is your typical V6 suckage, usually at 16 MPG.
Functional, practical, without being hideous, LOL
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 19, 2017, 02:08:35 PM
Aren't they all already at the scrap yard? Lol.
This one has 140k miles on this 2007 SLT 4x4.
I have replaced the brakes, front end as I said and tires.
Besides that, it has been a good truck for how much I put it to work.
The body and paint is in great condition.
3.7 is a dog getting up to 60 MPH but cruses well at 75 with low RPMs.
Mileage is your typical V6 suckage, usually at 16 MPG.
Functional, practical, without being hideous, LOL
I was just kidding. I cant tell you how bad I wanted a convertible 4x4 Dakota when they first came out.. hahahaa
Post by: jjhunter on April 21, 2017, 08:22:33 AM
Post by: blackpowderhunter on April 21, 2017, 09:08:25 AM
'91, '94, '99, '02, '07, '13, '15 and now '17. Hard to go away from the Toyota pickups!i'm like you but with less truck ADD! haha
93, 99, 01, 06
Post by: Alchase on April 21, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
'91, '94, '99, '02, '07, '13, '15 and now '17. Hard to go away from the Toyota pickups!
Nice looking truck!
Post by: Taco280AI on April 22, 2017, 08:01:48 PM
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'15
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'17
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If they had the bottom end power of the 4.0, top end of the 3.5... would be a great combo!
Had the '13, averaged 19mpg, had an engine pinging issue for some reason, then got rid of it due to moving to Germany. Got back, bought the '15, no engine pinging, averaged nearly 21mpg with it with the same driving habits! The '17 is averaging 21mpg, but my usual commute has a lot of 50mph driving. Deployed, got back, upgraded... Good thing I get my Tacoma's for so much off! The least I got off was $3600 on the '13 (with $500 off for military) and got the '17 for $4550 off (another $500 off for military).
Post by: Alchase on April 25, 2017, 10:35:05 AM
Post by: Old Man Yager on April 25, 2017, 11:26:41 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 25, 2017, 11:48:05 AM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 25, 2017, 11:58:02 PM
Atleast your son survived the wreck
judging by the mud, Id bet it wasn't a surprise. I stuffed my 85 once and tweaked the frame. At the time, I was working on and off during school breaks at Calahan's Auto Body in Seattle so I got it on the frame rack for no charge.
Post by: KFhunter on April 26, 2017, 08:11:46 AM
Post by: Scheindogg on April 26, 2017, 08:46:39 AM
I get so many complements on my Colorado it's starting to become annoying. Might sell it and get an ugly yota so folks will quit interrupting my day.
Sorry if I missed it but what year is your Colorado and have oh had any issues with it other than routine maintenance?
I LOVE the newer colorados but idk about their reliability
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 26, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
I get so many complements on my Colorado it's starting to become annoying. Might sell it and get an ugly yota so folks will quit interrupting my day.Don't worry give it time and your Colorado will be a road side ornament for everyone to comment on. :chuckle:
Post by: bullfisher on April 26, 2017, 11:16:31 AM
The new ZR2 seems like a pretty capable off road rig. Is the Tacoma available with front and rear locking differentials?
https://www.chevrolet.com/colorado-zr2-off-road-truck
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The yoters have always made the best small pickups imo. But the new Canyon/Colorado with a 2.8l I4 duramax is awsome. Somebody tested one at 30mpg. With 369ft lbs of torque @ 2000rpm its quite a contender.
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 26, 2017, 11:19:00 PM
I get so many complements on my Colorado it's starting to become annoying. Might sell it and get an ugly yota so folks will quit interrupting my day.
The ones at the Dealer where I drove one with the Duramax had absolutely no underbody protection. I was shocked how exposed the underbody was unless they had taken off all the skid plates so you could see all the underside on the display rack.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 27, 2017, 05:16:43 AM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 27, 2017, 06:15:37 AM
Plus you know the saying never by a vehicle model the first year it is in productionGood thing this is the 2nd year
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 27, 2017, 08:00:01 AM
Post by: DRobnsn on April 27, 2017, 11:18:41 AM
or the 2nd year as it takes a few years to work the bugs out
Unless its a Toyota, they work out the bugs before it goes to market.... :chuckle:
Post by: 724wd on April 27, 2017, 12:32:07 PM
or the 2nd year as it takes a few years to work the bugs out
Unless its a Toyota, they work out the bugs before it goes to market.... :chuckle:
oh REALLY?!?!
Post by: DRobnsn on April 27, 2017, 03:21:25 PM
or the 2nd year as it takes a few years to work the bugs out
Unless its a Toyota, they work out the bugs before it goes to market.... :chuckle:
oh REALLY?!?!
Keyword, potential. Anything mechanical has the POTENTIAL to fail. I say good on them for being proactive in fixing it before it becomes an issue. I was somewhat kidding about the "bugs worked out" comment anyway.
Honestly I'd love to see one or all of the big 3 begin to hold a reliability record across the board like Toyota has had.
Post by: 724wd on April 27, 2017, 03:42:30 PM
or the 2nd year as it takes a few years to work the bugs out
Unless its a Toyota, they work out the bugs before it goes to market.... :chuckle:
oh REALLY?!?!
Keyword, potential. Anything mechanical has the POTENTIAL to fail. I say good on them for being proactive in fixing it before it becomes an issue. I was somewhat kidding about the "bugs worked out" comment anyway.
Honestly I'd love to see one or all of the big 3 begin to hold a reliability record across the board like Toyota has had.
I know it was kinda in jest. I just thought it was funny i saw the article maybe 2 minutes after reading your comment ;)
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 05:31:40 AM
Honestly though... I can't even imagine doing multi-state hunts with a couple friends in a small truck. Where do you guys put your gear? I guess once you fill a full size quad cab with gear and hunting buddies it's hard to imagine downsizing.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 28, 2017, 05:46:56 AM
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 05:54:25 AM
SO now you get stuck in your REAL truck? :chuckle:
Exactly...but I've got all my gear with me and hunting buddies to push.
Post by: zwickeyman on April 28, 2017, 06:30:48 AM
I am averaging 15 MPG but its on a 4" lift with 33" tires and very heavy 18" Fuel wheels with the air dam removed
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 06:51:02 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 28, 2017, 07:04:07 AM
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 07:09:51 AM
Is that a diesel?
Yes.