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Title: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Ajj828 on April 26, 2017, 11:41:47 PM
Just bought a new tikka t3 and I looked at the end of the barrel and there seems to be a coating of orange stuff in the rifling. From my research online this is just copper and it's not a big deal. I'm buying cleaning supplies for the rifle tomorrow so should I clean the Bore before I put my first 40 rounds through it? Do I need to get this orange material out of the gun asap?
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 27, 2017, 04:52:05 AM
Clean it !   To do it right clean evey shot first 3 shots then every 3rd shot for next 6 shots, then every 5th shot for next 10 shots.  Then every 10 after that forever.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 27, 2017, 05:22:03 AM
Use the foam copper remover it works great.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Miles on April 27, 2017, 05:22:30 AM
Probably a little rust would be my guess. 
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: jay.sharkbait on April 27, 2017, 06:13:34 AM
Probably a little rust would be my guess.


That's what I was wondering.

I'd push a clean patch through it and see what's on the patch.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Bofire on April 27, 2017, 02:57:16 PM
looks like crud or rust to me, clean it. always clean a new gun before shooting.
Carl
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: hunter399 on April 27, 2017, 03:03:09 PM
 :tung:
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Ajj828 on April 27, 2017, 07:15:55 PM
I agree clean it.Is this brand new out of the box,or used rifle.If that's brand new out of box , that not very good quality control.

It was brand new out of the box from cabelas
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: hunter399 on April 27, 2017, 07:30:15 PM
 :tung:
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Wood2Sawdust on April 27, 2017, 08:04:43 PM
one of my two tikkas came that way from the factory a few years ago. some kind of packing goo. Cleaned easily and shot 1/2 groups right away. Love it
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 27, 2017, 08:54:23 PM
fairly simple explanation. Tikka test fires their rifles before shipping like many other rifle company's. As is the case with a new rifle but not a must. Depends on the opinion of the purchaser. A new rifle barrel should get a proper cleaning before it's first bench session. Then it's up to whatever works for the monkey on the trigger for barrel break in.

What your seeing is copper on the lands.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Oh Mah on April 27, 2017, 09:03:02 PM
Every firearm gets shot don't know for sure how many. For the gov. files.1 bullet goes to fbi with 1 case.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: thinkingman on April 28, 2017, 07:29:51 AM
one of my two tikkas came that way from the factory a few years ago. some kind of packing goo. Cleaned easily and shot 1/2 groups right away. Love it
It is similar to Cosmoline.
Clean it and shoot it.
Tikkas don't foul as commonly as Remington 700's and other marginal production rifles.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 07:36:43 AM
fairly simple explanation. Tikka test fires their rifles before shipping like many other rifle company's. As is the case with a new rifle but not a must. Depends on the opinion of the purchaser. A new rifle barrel should get a proper cleaning before it's first bench session. Then it's up to whatever works for the monkey on the trigger for barrel break in.

What your seeing is copper on the lands.

Visible copper from a couple test fire rounds?  I'm not too sure I can believe that.  I haven't ever seen visible copper in the lands even after 40 rds down the pipe.   Now a little rust after setting for a while in a damp environment, yes.

I'd bet the first shot through that barrel and all the rust would be gone... ;)
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: hunter399 on April 28, 2017, 08:03:43 AM
 :tung:
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: jackelope on April 28, 2017, 08:05:47 AM
Every firearm gets shot don't know for sure how many. For the gov. files.1 bullet goes to fbi with 1 case.

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Jellymon on April 28, 2017, 08:06:07 AM
fairly simple explanation. Tikka test fires their rifles before shipping like many other rifle company's. As is the case with a new rifle but not a must. Depends on the opinion of the purchaser. A new rifle barrel should get a proper cleaning before it's first bench session. Then it's up to whatever works for the monkey on the trigger for barrel break in.

What your seeing is copper on the lands.

Visible copper from a couple test fire rounds?  I'm not too sure I can believe that.  I haven't ever seen visible copper in the lands even after 40 rds down the pipe.   Now a little rust after setting for a while in a damp environment, yes.

I'd bet the first shot through that barrel and all the rust would be gone... ;)

Some rifles are worse than others. This is my ruger after less than 15 rounds. And ive been shooting it for 15 years.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: hunter399 on April 28, 2017, 08:10:51 AM
 :tung:
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 28, 2017, 08:11:38 AM
If that's copper, they must've shot about 100 rounds through it for it to be that evenly coated in the rifling. I'm also betting rust and that begs the question: Where the heck was this stored and are there more serious rust problems in the rest of the gun? I'd be tempted to return it or at least have a gunsmith look at it.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 08:16:00 AM
fairly simple explanation. Tikka test fires their rifles before shipping like many other rifle company's. As is the case with a new rifle but not a must. Depends on the opinion of the purchaser. A new rifle barrel should get a proper cleaning before it's first bench session. Then it's up to whatever works for the monkey on the trigger for barrel break in.

What your seeing is copper on the lands.

Visible copper from a couple test fire rounds?  I'm not too sure I can believe that.  I haven't ever seen visible copper in the lands even after 40 rds down the pipe.   Now a little rust after setting for a while in a damp environment, yes.

I'd bet the first shot through that barrel and all the rust would be gone... ;)

Some rifles are worse than others. This is my ruger after less than 15 rounds. And ive been shooting it for 15 years.

Crazy!  I've never seen anything like it in my Ruger, Browning, or Tikka.  I guess I learned something new today.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Bob33 on April 28, 2017, 08:25:39 AM
It would be easy to see if it's copper. Take a Q Tip, dip it in a copper solvent, and swab the bore at the muzzle. Copper will turn the solvent on the Q tip bluish.

I would lean towards test rounds leaving some copper in the lands until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Miles on April 28, 2017, 09:43:40 AM
fairly simple explanation. Tikka test fires their rifles before shipping like many other rifle company's. As is the case with a new rifle but not a must. Depends on the opinion of the purchaser. A new rifle barrel should get a proper cleaning before it's first bench session. Then it's up to whatever works for the monkey on the trigger for barrel break in.

What your seeing is copper on the lands.

Visible copper from a couple test fire rounds?  I'm not too sure I can believe that.  I haven't ever seen visible copper in the lands even after 40 rds down the pipe.   Now a little rust after setting for a while in a damp environment, yes.

I'd bet the first shot through that barrel and all the rust would be gone... ;)

I'm going to have to say I was incorrect with the above statement.   This thread got me to go pull out one of my rifles.  With a good light and some eye strain I was able to see some copper residue.  Mind you this rifle is neglected when it comes to cleaning and has had tons of rounds down the pipe.   
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: high country on April 28, 2017, 12:56:05 PM
It's pretty remarkable what the outers foul out will pull from "clean" rifles. The good news is that it's not always best to get everything out of your barrel.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 28, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
The first shot leaves a lot of copper in the barrel as copper gets scraped off in the freshly machined throat and subsequently gets vaporized and deposited throughout the barrel. As the throat gets smooth over subsequent rounds the deposits lessen. Hence the need to clean a new barrel frequently at first. 
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 28, 2017, 01:40:58 PM
I have a Ruger Predator that after a thorough clean. I can fire three rounds, look at the muzzle and the lands are coated in copper. Still shoots 1/2-3/4 MOA to about 40 rounds , then the groups start to open up.
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 28, 2017, 01:44:48 PM
Hammer, it just occurred to me you're posting on here! Welcome back. Missed you bud. :tup:
Title: Re: Copper in barrel of new tikka t3?
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 28, 2017, 02:41:13 PM
Hammer, it just occurred to me you're posting on here! Welcome back. Missed you bud. :tup:

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