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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: STLHDHunter on May 02, 2017, 01:41:11 PM

Title: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: STLHDHunter on May 02, 2017, 01:41:11 PM: Absolutely disgusting story involving poachers in Cowlitz County:

http://www.kptv.com/story/35299340/investigation-into-massive-washington-poaching-operation-continues#.WQjNeQMVIwU.facebook (http://www.kptv.com/story/35299340/investigation-into-massive-washington-poaching-operation-continues#.WQjNeQMVIwU.facebook)
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: fishnfur on May 02, 2017, 01:59:42 PM: I swear it wasn't me.

These guys make me sick. Anybody up for forming a lynch mob?
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: saylean on May 02, 2017, 03:11:35 PM: It is sad that we don't have more WDFW officers on the look out. I hope they roast these pos over the coals.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Curly on May 02, 2017, 07:41:19 PM: The story was on King 5 news tonight. Cenci had his mug all over it.

I hope the prosecutor nails them.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: dyhardhuntr on May 11, 2017, 10:12:18 AM: I'm curious to find out who is involved. I live in cowlitz county and know a lot of hunters/fishermen/women. Hopefully it's no one I know.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2017, 11:00:28 AM: :yeah: I'd like to know, too.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 11, 2017, 11:15:20 AM: The best thing that we can ALL do is this...
1. Follow the proceedings on this thread.
2. Everyone write letters to the Prosecuting Attorney suppporting the maximum punishment available.
3. Write letters to the Jude stating the same.
4. Write letters to the Game Department stating same.
5. Write letters to our Represnetatives supporting the Game Departments efforts and ask for support.

The common theme,
Write Letters.

Rob.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: lastmk8 on May 11, 2017, 12:17:27 PM: I would also like to know more information. Specifically, a buddy of mine while elk hunting about three years ago stumbled upon a bear bait set-up in the western side of the county. We took pictures of the whole area, bait barrel, beaten down earth and even some trees that appeared to be scared a bit from climbing tree stand cables. My buddy reported it to WDFW complete with coordinates and pictures. We never heard anything back, just makes you wonder if it could have been these guys... he was always hoping for a little bump in special draw points...
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: jstokes12 on May 11, 2017, 01:28:20 PM: It was interesting how the media reported the incident. There was a bigfocus on how vicious the hound hunting was and how hounds were tearing their prey apart. I was amazed how the media was handed video of that action, makes me wonder how they got it, and even the fish and game seemed a little biased on hound hunting. Anyway just two cents, I believe the fish and game has gotten a little to liberal for my taste. Especially when it comes to hound hunting and salmon fishing. I think these guys deserve the maximum sentence plus some to send a message that poaching isn't hunting. But by portraying hound hunting as evil is not the right way to go about. Maybe the fish and game should spend more time enducating the public on what's fair and legal hunting and stop bitching about the lack of funding. I am sure the million plus educated people in and around the Seattle area could me more helpful then a few more game wardens.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: greenhead_killer on May 11, 2017, 01:45:46 PM: :yeah: I agree, the news report was just a roasting on hound hunting. What a bunch of garbage. Also hope they fry these guys. This is pretty sad they went this far without someone saying anything. Something this big wasn't kept to just the guys involved. You know quite a few people probably knew about it and just turned a blind eye
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Stein on May 11, 2017, 01:57:18 PM: Hounds are inhumane but wolves are somehow fine and dandy?
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Taco280AI on May 11, 2017, 02:04:25 PM: Nothing to see here folks, they'll likely get a $1000 fine and 10 hours community service :bash:

Hope they get prison time!
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: bigtex on May 11, 2017, 02:13:54 PM: Quote from: NW SURVEYOR on May 11, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
The best thing that we can ALL do is this...
1. Follow the proceedings on this thread.
2. Everyone write letters to the Prosecuting Attorney suppporting the maximum punishment available.
3. Write letters to the Jude stating the same.
4. Write letters to the Game Department stating same.
5. Write letters to our Represnetatives supporting the Game Departments efforts and ask for support.

The common theme,
Write Letters.

Rob.
Really it comes down to judge and prosecutor. WDFW doesn't do anything in terms of asking for penalties or is involved in that process. If WDFW wants a $4.000 fine, and prosecutor says nah it'll be $400, it'll be $400.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Gringo31 on May 11, 2017, 02:22:19 PM: Quote
natural resource murderers
:yike:

Ummmm, perfect example.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: HntnFsh on May 12, 2017, 05:43:08 AM: I'm betting that some familiar names pop up in this case!
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 12, 2017, 07:13:59 AM: Yeah I was looking for names but none onthat article
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 12, 2017, 07:45:17 AM: I've written to the reporter asking about names.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: ctwiggs1 on May 12, 2017, 08:16:48 AM: I feel like no matter what we do, the following will happen:

Cenci will get more air time
The defendants will get a conviction and extreme minimal sentence at most... And may lose the hunting rights they ignored for a year or two.
Our game wardens will re-arrest at least 1-2 of them within the next 3 years, for a rinse and repeat.

After reading Operation CODY, and following up on the aftermath, I struggle to believe that our fish and game laws are taken seriously by prosecutors, judges, or even upper level WDFW staff.
:bash:
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 12, 2017, 08:19:27 AM: Your likely response...

Sorry to tell you mr. pman we will not be releasing the names of the individuals due to the ongoing risk of being a criminal and the departments ongoing efforts to protect the criminals in the case. The criminals will likely receive very lite sentences and therefore need to be protected by us even more, resulting in us covering up what specific community members have been doing this. Again sorry you care."

:chuckle: sorry pman carry on.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: HntnFsh on May 12, 2017, 08:55:14 AM: I believe I read that the names aren't being released because the suspects haven't been arrested yet.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 12, 2017, 09:07:05 AM: The arrival sure made it sound as if they knew the exact number of people involved.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 12, 2017, 09:54:30 AM: Quote from: HntnFsh on May 12, 2017, 08:55:14 AM
I believe I read that the names aren't being released because the suspects haven't been arrested yet.

...nor have they been charged. I just got that response from the reporter and she'll post the names once they have.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Practical Approach on May 12, 2017, 10:38:44 AM: I heard that they are a well known group of poachers and have been cited in the past. Keep in mind that is second hand information.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Practical Approach on May 12, 2017, 10:42:50 AM: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/agent-goes-undercover-to-nab-a-gang-of-poachers/

Here is a 2009 read that looks awfully familiar.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: JimmyHoffa on May 12, 2017, 10:43:12 AM: I'd guess that the case, considering how into it sounds like they were. Not exactly like the case where someone lost track of a property boundary or shooting hours when you and your buds are rolling around with packs of hounds.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 12, 2017, 10:59:24 AM: Doubt it's the same guys.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: Practical Approach on May 12, 2017, 11:06:31 AM: I would hope not. I hope WDFW keeps some sort of tabs on folks that are known poachers. However, there area a lot of similarities and stupid criminals are notorious for reoffending. We should know shortly I hope.
Title: Re: WDFW - Investigation into Massive Poaching Ring
Post by: LeviD1 on May 12, 2017, 09:41:09 PM: I feel like our wildlife office is very mismanaged. When they find people that do things like this they should be shot. There's a way to make an example, not a 5,000 fine.