Post by: jjness11 on May 11, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
I know this has been covered a lot, but I haven't seen much on the Mesa. Any help/feedback is appreciated.
Post by: kselkhunter on May 11, 2017, 05:14:37 PM
Post by: DJ_Mack on May 11, 2017, 05:55:46 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on May 11, 2017, 06:06:17 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 11, 2017, 09:57:33 PM
All that aside, well done.😉
Post by: follow maggie on May 11, 2017, 10:29:25 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on May 11, 2017, 10:54:09 PM
I would have a total melt down and kick my dog a couple times(He likes it) if I even owned a rifle with a chambering that dropped that much between 200 & 300 yards!🤕
All that aside, well done.😉
Lol! I was surprised, but it's just a standard 308 win. Lots of people have them :hello:
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 12, 2017, 06:04:57 AM
Post by: opdinkslayer on May 12, 2017, 06:05:29 AM
Post by: jjness11 on May 12, 2017, 07:58:40 AM
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Those do look amazing. I hadn't seen that model before, but I haven't ever heard a negative review about Cooper.
Post by: jjness11 on May 12, 2017, 08:01:00 AM
Buy a tikka superlite and then take all the extra money it would cost you for the rifles you listed and put a brake(if you want),rail/top end rings & the best glass you can buy on top of it. They are under 6 lbs. and shoot lights out. Stock upgrades are available if you don't like the factory one as well. :twocents: :tup:
I've already got the glass. I picked up the Vortex Razor HD LH a couple weeks back. It is getting lonely in the safe! I know those Tikka's shoot, just never been a fan personally.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on May 12, 2017, 08:09:34 AM
[quote Also look at the cooper backcountry if your going to throw down that much money. They look sweet
Those do look amazing. I hadn't seen that model before, but I haven't ever heard a negative review about Cooper.
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Ya it's in a separate section on their website. Buy once cry once live once lol :tup:
I recently switched my ring setup to a nightforce standard duty rail and the ultralight titanium jaw 6 screw rings. HIGHLY recommend it. The standard duty rail is super well built and lighter than a steel rail by a lot. Check them out when you look for rings...Especially with a 300 and a light rifle think those rings are up to it
Post by: jackelope on May 12, 2017, 08:37:46 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 12, 2017, 08:41:00 AM
https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-american-wilderness-rifle
Post by: JBar on May 12, 2017, 08:57:12 AM
Does anyone have a 700AWR? Interesting they don't list a weight.It's listed, just gotta scroll way over to the right. 7.375 pounds :tup:
https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-american-wilderness-rifle
Post by: lewy on May 12, 2017, 08:57:27 AM
Post by: opdinkslayer on May 12, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
Buy a tikka superlite and then take all the extra money it would cost you for the rifles you listed and put a brake(if you want),rail/top end rings & the best glass you can buy on top of it. They are under 6 lbs. and shoot lights out. Stock upgrades are available if you don't like the factory one as well. :twocents: :tup:
I've already got the glass. I picked up the Vortex Razor HD LH a couple weeks back. It is getting lonely in the safe! I know those Tikka's shoot, just never been a fan personally.
If your considering a cooper backcountry and already have the glass then why don't ya go all the way and have Travis @ Rbros build ya a lwhunter and there is no wondering if you got a shooter or not? Whats another 1200 when your that deep into a rifle/scope setup? :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on May 12, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
Does anyone have a 700AWR? Interesting they don't list a weight.It's listed, just gotta scroll way over to the right. 7.375 pounds :tup:
https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-american-wilderness-rifle
Dang....it didn't fit on my screen and I didn't scroll. Thanks dude. Forget that option. That's a heavy rifle.
Post by: fillthefreezer on May 12, 2017, 01:35:33 PM
Post by: opdinkslayer on May 12, 2017, 03:02:05 PM
why buy a super ultralight "backcountry" rifle then put a razor on it?
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The razor lh model is a 1 inch tube lightweight model not the boat anchor razor your thinking of. :chuckle:
Post by: kselkhunter on May 12, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
The 300 win mag version of the Ascent is 6lbs 7ounces (it's the 308 win or 6.5 Creedmoor versions of Ascent that are the lower 4lbs 13ounces weight). Model 70 Extreme Weather is 7lb 4 ounces in 300 win mag. Christensen Ridgeline is 6.8lbs. Legendary Arms is 6.6-7lbs. For comparison, a standard Browning X-bolt Stainless in 300WSM is 6lb 8ounces for the standard rifle, 6lb 13ounces for the 300 win mag version.
A Leupold Vx2 3-9x33 "Ultralight" is 11.5 ounces. A Razor HD LH 13.4 ounces in the 1.5-8x32. You can drop down to 6.5 ounces with the Leupold 2.5x20mm Ultralight, but I wouldn't do that if it were me (especially if putting it on a 6.5-7lb rifle already). A basic Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 is 15 ounces as comparison. Stepping up to Swarovski Z5 5-25x52 is 17.5 ounces.
Post by: fillthefreezer on May 12, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
Post by: jjness11 on May 12, 2017, 03:55:52 PM
why buy a super ultralight "backcountry" rifle then put a razor on it?
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The razor lh model is a 1 inch tube lightweight model not the boat anchor razor your thinking of. :chuckle:
Yes, its the Razor HD LH (light hunter). They are pretty impressive scopes.
Post by: PNW4Life on May 12, 2017, 04:25:26 PM
What's too light for a 300 mag?
Post by: kselkhunter on May 12, 2017, 04:54:47 PM
The rifles the op listed are all reasonably low weights for caliber. I wouldn't want to shoot a <6lb 300WM, even with break. In my experience, the lighter the gun the more challenging to maintain accuracy.
The recoil energy difference is significant in 6lb gun for 308 vs. 300WM. Which is why there is the 1.5lb difference in the Mountain Ascent for the two calibers.
Post by: jjness11 on May 15, 2017, 10:27:01 AM
I'm curious how recoil will play a role in overall weight.
What's too light for a 300 mag?
Well that was one of the deciding factors in my decision. I ended up going with the Christensen Mesa, due to a little extra weight, and wanting to try out a new rifle. I got my scope mounted and bore sighted last night. Now I need to load up some ammo and get to the range. Let me know if you guys want some feedback/results on this rifle. With it being fairly new to the market, I haven't found much on it. I will be testing it with Nosler brass, 180 accubonds, H100 and RL17.
Post by: JBar on May 15, 2017, 10:45:43 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on May 15, 2017, 10:57:09 AM
Post by: yorketransport on May 15, 2017, 01:57:05 PM
I'm curious how recoil will play a role in overall weight.
What's too light for a 300 mag?
You can never go too light. I had a 300 RUM pistol that weighed 6# 10oz scoped and it was very manageable shooting 200gr accubonds at 2945 fps from the 18" barrel. A good muzzle brake fixes everything!
Post by: elkslayer069 on May 15, 2017, 02:27:09 PM
Post by: high country on May 16, 2017, 07:44:41 AM
Post by: PNW4Life on May 16, 2017, 10:45:07 AM
Anybody looked into the Q ? I want one
What's the "Q"?
Post by: jjness11 on May 16, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
Anybody looked into the Q ? I want one
What's the "Q"?
I don't know much about them, but they make precision rifles. I have heard Ryan Cleckner talk about them on his podcast. I don't think they make hunting rifles.
http://liveqordie.com/product/rifles-by-q/the-fix-by-q/
Post by: high country on May 16, 2017, 11:31:12 AM
Post by: PNW4Life on May 16, 2017, 11:50:57 AM
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction brother. Looking forward to hearing how your Mesa turns out!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 18, 2017, 06:32:34 PM
Hey JJ, with you and Yorke as motivation, I decided to man up and ordered all the components for my backcountry lightweight 300WSM. I should end up right around 6.5lbs with optics.
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction brother. Looking forward to hearing how your Mesa turns out!
What brake you pick ? I'm thinking thats a pretty good combo - especially after watching my buddy drop a 330 bull at 680 yards one shot with his last fall.
Post by: PNW4Life on May 18, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
Hey JJ, with you and Yorke as motivation, I decided to man up and ordered all the components for my backcountry lightweight 300WSM. I should end up right around 6.5lbs with optics.
Thanks for the nudge in the right direction brother. Looking forward to hearing how your Mesa turns out!
I have one of Ryan Pierce's Round Mini Mag 3 Port Muscle Brakes. He can spot shots with it mounted on his ~10lbs hotrodded 28 Nosler. I should be alright with that brake, even with it being a lightweight.
What brake you pick ? I'm thinking thats a pretty good combo - especially after watching my buddy drop a 330 bull at 680 yards one shot with his last fall.