Post by: Mossyoak on May 17, 2017, 08:45:48 PM
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Post by: Killmore on May 18, 2017, 08:03:15 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 18, 2017, 08:22:18 AM
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Post by: 7mmfan on May 18, 2017, 08:36:48 AM
What caused the huge drop in the Cow Tags in the Colockum, Manashtash, Little Naches? Was it caused by high tag allotment and high success coupled with a rough winter? I thought they issued way to many Cow tags last year. Was the survey really bad? I thought the reason WDFW issued more tags was because they were exceeding objective. Would like to see consistent tag allotment to stabilize the heards.
While this obviously plays a roll in herd size, consistent tag numbers have nothing to do with herd stability. Mother nature is always cyclical, we have to adjust accordingly with increased or decreased harvest to moderate those fluctuations. Man will never be able to stabilize nature.
Post by: buglebuster on May 18, 2017, 09:11:39 AM
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Post by: Stein on May 18, 2017, 03:28:26 PM
I know Mother Nature is unpredictable. By consistent tags numbers I meant start being proactive rather than reactive. In my opinion now matter how good or bad of a winter there should never be a 490 difference in tags issued in the Colockum.You have to be able to fluctuate the tags with objective goals. I guess this is why WA can't adopt two year hunting regulations. They are already behind in management and that would make it worse if they were making the adjustments even later.
By being proactive, you mean predicting how many animals will be there next year so you can set the tags this year :dunno:
If they are over objective, they issue more tags and more animals get shot until they get to objective, then the tags are pretty consistent until the herd either goes up or down. Many variables at play.
Post by: Mossyoak on May 18, 2017, 04:14:22 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 18, 2017, 04:26:49 PM
Those areas should of never had 300 tags issued for them in the first place.:yeah: I always thought that was too many, especially when certain races have no limits.
Post by: 400out on May 25, 2017, 08:41:24 AM
Post by: buglebuster on May 25, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
you can hunt any elk west of the PCT ;)False
Post by: 400out on May 25, 2017, 02:39:20 PM
sure you can! and in many areas you can shoot more than one!you can hunt any elk west of the PCT ;)False
Post by: Killmore on May 26, 2017, 10:07:16 AM
Post by: Bullmoose on May 26, 2017, 10:10:50 AM
Post by: lastmk8 on May 26, 2017, 11:19:50 AM
Thursday Daily record paper, Sounds like the Game department and the DOT are going to have help figuring out how to reduce elk loss on I 90 near Vantage. The state says there are to many elk in the herd (6500). The game department wants the herd to be reduced to 4500 head. So how does reducing the cow permit numbers going to help that??
Here is a link to the article....
http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/news/state-directed-to-help-with-elk-issues-in-kittitas-county/article_a6648eef-cfa8-5b90-bd35-e0aa1fb3fd54.html
Post by: Killmore on May 26, 2017, 11:37:48 AM
Post by: jstone on May 26, 2017, 12:32:07 PM
Post by: Mfowl on May 26, 2017, 12:37:09 PM
Thursday Daily record paper, Sounds like the Game department and the DOT are going to have help figuring out how to reduce elk loss on I 90 near Vantage. The state says there are to many elk in the herd (6500). The game department wants the herd to be reduced to 4500 head. So how does reducing the cow permit numbers going to help that??
Too many elk is only something WDFW would say. I'd rather see an elk fence with game by pass points than a reduced herd. I'd rather my tax dollars pay for that than any Seattle waterfront projects or Good to Go lanes.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 26, 2017, 12:46:12 PM
Ding, ding, ding. This is the winning idea in my mind as well. There is tons of wintering ground for them right there. There is a freeway running right through the middle of it with no way around for the elk. Put up a fence and paths over/under the freeway, problem solved.Thursday Daily record paper, Sounds like the Game department and the DOT are going to have help figuring out how to reduce elk loss on I 90 near Vantage. The state says there are to many elk in the herd (6500). The game department wants the herd to be reduced to 4500 head. So how does reducing the cow permit numbers going to help that??
Too many elk is only something WDFW would say. I'd rather see an elk fence with game by pass points than a reduced herd. I'd rather my tax dollars pay for that than any Seattle waterfront projects or Good to Go lanes.
Post by: Stein on May 26, 2017, 12:49:45 PM
Post by: ALLTERRAIN on June 03, 2017, 12:03:19 PM
Post by: Igor on June 03, 2017, 12:21:33 PM
Someone could always call the WDFW bio and ask if they really wanted to know. My experience is they are usually very knowledgeable and able to give you all the information surrounding decisions and herd management strategies.
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