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Post by: bobcat on May 18, 2017, 08:52:26 PM
Check out this one:
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/16TROPHYHUNTERXP
Post by: Crunchy on May 18, 2017, 08:54:16 PM
Post by: cougforester on May 18, 2017, 09:02:43 PM
I think Savage makes a really nice rifle without the quality control issues that many manufacturers seem to have in recent years.
Check out this one:
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/16TROPHYHUNTERXP
This exact rifle, chambered in .300 Win Mag with this scope: http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-hs-t-4-16x44-riflescope-with-vmr-1-moa-reticle/reticle is my elk/bear/hopefully moose rifle. I love it.
I have also have a Savage .243 that I use for deer with a Nikon 4.5-18 http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/nikon-products/riflescopes/prostaff-5-4.5-18x40-matte-bdc.html on top.
Between those two guns, I don't think I'll ever need to buy another rifle, as I have all my bases covered for all sizes of game. Plus they shoot so well and are so tough that anything fancier/ "more accurate" wouldn't be utilized with my abilities, and couldn't handle the abuse these guns take.
Post by: biggfish on May 18, 2017, 09:32:54 PM
I would think twice about the 6.5 to 20 scope unless you are only shooting at the range. 6.5 is too much for anything inside of 80 yards. I mainly archery hunt but killed one buck and one elk at fair close range with my rifle. even at the lowest magnification of my scope 4.5 it was way too much. I couldn't find the critter in my scope and when I did all I saw was hair.That's about what I was thinking. If all was perfect and could have exactly what I want it would be 2-16x50. That narrows that part down at least.
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Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
if you want an awesome shooter go ahead and get the Rem 700 .300 Win mag.Just get the Timney trigger for it.Nothing else is gonna have a trigger good enough either. :twocents:
Completely agree, you will be OK with the trigger. If not there are many options trigger wise for the Remington 700 available. Exellent rifle, great chambering. Nothing wrong with the 6.5-20 on a hunting rifle. Over the years I have taken allot of game with a Leupold 6.5-20 on many different chambering. Bears at point blank on 6.5X and 20X for the long stuff for deer, Elk and chucks. A 4-16 or 6-18 would be my next choice optics wise for the .300 Win Mag. You can really reach out with it.
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on May 18, 2017, 11:58:26 PM
I would think twice about the 6.5 to 20 scope unless you are only shooting at the range. 6.5 is too much for anything inside of 80 yards. I mainly archery hunt but killed one buck and one elk at fair close range with my rifle. even at the lowest magnification of my scope 4.5 it was way too much. I couldn't find the critter in my scope and when I did all I saw was hair.
Haha that's funny!!!!
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on May 19, 2017, 12:00:21 AM
I think Savage makes a really nice rifle without the quality control issues that many manufacturers seem to have in recent years.
Check out this one:
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/16TROPHYHUNTERXP
What quality control issues do you speak of??
If it's Remington, I keep hearing, but not seeing....
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Post by: Henrydog on May 19, 2017, 06:49:46 AM
It shoots fairly well. It will never get tacti-cool fake snipers that live on the internet excited about the groups it shoots but each shot is within reason.
The trigger is nice, the fit and finish is okay. It will never be a tact driver or a family heirloom, however I am sure it will be dropping a deer in 5 month
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Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 19, 2017, 08:48:36 AM
Having hunted western Washington for 45 years I have rarely used more than 6X magnification.
At one time I used 3X9 Leopold VariXII scopes on my 7MM RM.
After a few years of shooting elk and deer at no more than 250 yards I went back to the 2x7 VariXII.
I prefer the smaller bell as it sits lower on the receiver and provides plenty of light.
I also have the same scope on my .338 (Both Sako Finnbears).
The .338 has a 6 mil dot (Black) which I really like.
I have used the same setup in Idaho and Montana with no problems.
It is my opinion that many hunters put more faith in the optics and long range potential than actual hunting skills.
Just cause you see an animal at 600 yards and have 20X scope doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to minimize the distance.
This enables us to make more positive shots and minimize wind drift and the myriad of other factors which affect trajectory.
I carry 10X40 binoculars and also have a 28X fixed mini spotting scope to size up animals.
as for shot placement, if I needed 16X, it is to far for my comfort level, but to each his own.
I also agree with CRUNCHY with respect to 6.5 being a bit more magnification than is practical in the timber.
To me, 257s comment (Ha Ha) shows his ignorance or lack of experience with regards to short shots, particularly in the timber.
During late buck, 2015 I shot a pretty nice buck at 40 feet, (17 paces us a steep slope).
I had the scope on 4X and still had to trace the shot down from the head to back and then lower the Dot to the chest.
6X in the timber is pretty tough in that you diminish the available light and minimize the sight picture.
Obviously everyone is different, but for me 2X7 or 3X9 is ideal for my style of hunting.
Also, the older (1970s) Sako Rifles in 7MM Mag and/or .338 WM.
Good Luck.
Rob.
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Re: A buddy's looking for a new 7mm Mag deer rifle- Tikka T3, or Remington 700?
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If you’re looking strictly for “out of box” accuracy, I would favor the Tikka T3 between the two you have asked about. An interesting test would be to take ten out-of-box T3s, ten out-of-box 700s and run an accuracy test between them. I believe the Tikkas would have a slight edge. I’ve not known of a Tikka T3 that didn’t shoot well out of the box.
That said, no custom rifle makers that I’m aware of uses Tikka actions. Many, if not a majority use 700 actions. With work, a 700 can usually become as or more accurate than any other actioned rifle.
As far as aesthetics go, the Tikkas generally don’t score well - some believe they look and feel cheap. If that bothers you, get a 700 or expand your search to some of the other makes mentioned.
It seems that no one talks much about their Remington accuracy anymore, maybe it is just a "given" now and people take it for granted. That being said I have never been impressed with a box Remington, for accuracy they have been on par with all the Rugers I have had and a sloppy second to Winchester or Tikka at the similar price point. A Remington is kind of like a hammer, not much by itself but you can use it to build something. IMO as far as look and feel, most of the base Remingtons (SPS, XCR, CDL, etc.) feel as cheap as any out there. Some would say the reason there are so many aftermarket options for the Remington is because they need them :)
Bingo!....and you copied my comment from a few months ago re aftermarket R700 parts....LOTS of demand for those.
The reason R700 is the platform used for many customs is it was designed to be manufactured as cheaply as possible out of round stock. Anyone with a lathe can claim to be an R700 gunsmith.
No way I would bet $500 clams on whether I get a lemon in a green and yellow box.
I shoot a Tikka 300WSM and after 8 or 10 rounds, I need a few Advil. No question, even with the Limbsaver pad.
That said, it's not a bench gun, it's a hike 4 miles and 4000 ft of vertical every day gun.
Good thing it and the Burris scope don't lose zero, I don't have to fuss with it before every season.
Buy a R700 and Leupold scope if you really want a project...it will keep you busy guessing which one is out of tune.
Post by: thinkingman on May 19, 2017, 09:53:30 AM
With the number of 4X and 5X multiplier scopes available now, 3-12X would be my minimum, 3-15 would be ideal.
Enjoy this thread....http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,171038.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,171038.0.html)
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WTS: Tikka Stainless 300 Win Mag with Brake (PRICE DROP) here ya go :IBCOOL:
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Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 19, 2017, 03:33:26 PM
I will first state that I have hunted neither.
But the moose is generally a shorter shot at a larger animal, and moose die more easily from what I've read.
Sheep, longer shots, wind, tougher kill, tougher hike, also from what I've read.
If you want one gun, get a .280 AI and start practicing.
This will provide a lighter platform with minimal recoil, good long distance (Sheep) with the muscle to penetrate on moose.
Spend the money on quality and quit fretting.
If you are after Grizzlies (You mentioned bears), go with the .338.
The .338 will not be the ideal sheep rifle, but it's very adequate at up to 400 yards.
It also bucks the wind favorably.
For moose and bear, I would say it is unsurpassed.
Whatever you do, don't scrimp, but don't go overboard.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
Post by: Miles on May 19, 2017, 03:54:51 PM
Why even use a scope on the wet side. A Remington 700 BDL with open sights is flat lethal in the thick stuff and to 200 isn't a problem.
A browning BLR or Remington 7600 would be great open sight choices as well.
Post by: Bill W on May 19, 2017, 03:58:34 PM
Why even use a scope on the wet side. A Remington 700 BDL with open sights is flat lethal in the thick stuff and to 200 isn't a problem. I would save a boat load of money if I dumped all my glass and ran 3-9's across the board. :chuckle: Just don't see it happening.
Sometimes the brush and foliage eat up too much light and not allow a good sight picture. Scopes pick up more light.
Post by: Miles on May 19, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
Post by: Ironhead on May 19, 2017, 04:42:41 PM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 19, 2017, 04:45:13 PM
Also two 2X7 Vari X II just in case.
Post by: biggfish on May 19, 2017, 05:08:29 PM
Do they even make 3x9 scopes any more? 8)Yes I just bought one last year and it lives on my 6.8 spc.
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Post by: biggfish on May 19, 2017, 05:16:03 PM
Sheep and moose are two different hunts with regards to shooting requirements.I was looking to stay more main stream for availability of ammo and components for reloading. Years ago I had a rem 700 in 300wm but with all the recalls I wanted to stay away from them. I still have factory ammo and dies for .300 so I'm dead set on getting a new one.
I will first state that I have hunted neither.
But the moose is generally a shorter shot at a larger animal, and moose die more easily from what I've read.
Sheep, longer shots, wind, tougher kill, tougher hike, also from what I've read.
If you want one gun, get a .280 AI and start practicing.
This will provide a lighter platform with minimal recoil, good long distance (Sheep) with the muscle to penetrate on moose.
Spend the money on quality and quit fretting.
If you are after Grizzlies (You mentioned bears), go with the .338.
The .338 will not be the ideal sheep rifle, but it's very adequate at up to 400 yards.
It also bucks the wind favorably.
For moose and bear, I would say it is unsurpassed.
Whatever you do, don't scrimp, but don't go overboard.
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Post by: AWS on May 19, 2017, 05:23:53 PM
I own two 6.5-20 scopes and a 6-18 scope and they would never end up on a hunting gun other than GS and PD's mine rest on target/varmint guns and my 8-32 is on a target 22 lr.
I hunt coyotes for five months of the year in 3 to five states, many times I take multiple dogs a DAY in every kind of terrain. my goto scope for coyotes is a 1-4x20 on my combo guns(5.6x50 Mag/12ga & 5.6x52R/12ga, 16ga/16ga/6.x58R) all three are sub MOA rifles with their 1-4 scopes and and true 300 yard capable(6.5x58r excepted as it drops too much for 300 yard work). MY bolt guns all carry 1.5-6x40's except one with a 2.5-10x40 22-204, 6mm-204 and 22-250. These are plenty for a critter that is a 10th the size of a small elk or large deer.
Post by: biggfish on May 19, 2017, 05:23:55 PM
Why even use a scope on the wet side. A Remington 700 BDL with open sights is flat lethal in the thick stuff and to 200 isn't a problem. I would save a boat load of money if I dumped all my glass and ran 3-9's across the board. :chuckle: Just don't see it happening.My eyes aren't what they were 15 years ago when I could take 300 yd shots with open sights now I can't hit 100 with opens. I put a peep on my muzzy and I'm doing great so maybe an option. But on the wet side hear when I hunt black bear I've been lugging around my 6.8 topped with a 3x9 on a quick release I have flip up peep on it and a 2x red dot. I feel well covered on West side hunts. This is mostly going to be used in eastern Washington and maybe Montana if I finally hunt out of state.
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Post by: Curly on May 19, 2017, 05:42:18 PM
As mentioned earlier, this one sounds real good.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
If not I have two in the garage for back-up.
Also two 2X7 Vari X II just in case.
I have more used for a 2-7 in close than a 3-9.
Post by: biggfish on May 19, 2017, 05:48:04 PM
http:/topic,211483.msg2815094.html#msg2815094It's listed as sold pending funds.
As mentioned earlier, this one sounds real good.
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Post by: Curly on May 19, 2017, 05:59:09 PM
http:/topic,211483.msg2815094.html#msg2815094It's listed as sold pending funds.
As mentioned earlier, this one sounds real good.
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I had the link messed up. Try this: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,211483.msg2815094.html#msg2815094
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Post by: Branden on May 19, 2017, 07:39:51 PM
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2017, 07:54:59 PM
For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
Post by: Jolten on May 19, 2017, 08:03:13 PM
For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
Any self respecting man would choose a Savage ;)
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2017, 08:06:14 PM
For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
Any self respecting man would choose a Savage ;)
Anything but a Tikka! :pee:
Post by: Miles on May 19, 2017, 08:08:25 PM
Post by: Alchase on May 19, 2017, 08:21:05 PM
For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
LMAO
That was pretty dang funny!
Though I won't buy a Remington, and all my hunting rifles run Leopold VX3s (3x9, 3.5x10, etc...), Not to expensive, clear, just the right magnification for hunting anything up to 500 yards, and a great warranty.
The OP did not say his price range, so I will add, of all my rifles, my Sako Finlight in 300 win mag is my go to hunting rifle.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 19, 2017, 08:33:57 PM
For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
LMAO
That was pretty dang funny!
Though I won't buy a Remington, and all my hunting rifles run Leopold VX3s (3x9, 3.5x10, etc...), Not to expensive, clear, just the right magnification for hunting anything up to 500 yards, and a great warranty.
The OP did not say his price range, so I will add, of all my rifles, my Sako Finlight in 300 win mag is my go to hunting rifle.
Odd how it works.. Tikkas are disgusting but true Sako's and old school Sako's are a class act. Skip the nasty Tikka's and just get a Sako.
Post by: Oh Mah on May 19, 2017, 08:44:17 PM
EXZACTLY,What insight!For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
Post by: JakeLand on May 19, 2017, 10:18:47 PM
Post by: Alchase on May 19, 2017, 11:19:34 PM
its not the rifle it's the shooter what counts ! I shoot Tikka and drive Toyota oh ya and have zero issues with ANY performance from either ,and I piss standing up
But do you have:
some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom,
Sorry could not resist, LOL
Wait, what?
You stand up?
:chuckle:
Post by: Branden on May 20, 2017, 04:59:35 AM
I used to hate them cause they feel cheep. But after watching one after another shoot tiny tiny groups they won me over. For me a rifle isn't about looks. It's about doing what it's supposed to from the box. And Tikka's do it extremely well. Without having to buy an aftermarket trigger.
And nope I don't drive a Toyota or wear Kuiu but I did kill a big buck last year with a semi custom built off of a tikka action ;)
PS there is a thread on another forum talking about using a tikka action or going full custom. I was surprised reading it.
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 20, 2017, 07:30:02 AM
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I have 2 old school Sakos (1971-72) and a few other rifles.
All are nice, good shooters.
But the old Sakos' has the sweetest factory triggers ever.
The rifles are solid and they handle like a dream.
After 45 years of being dragged through the timber, they look a little tired.
But every season they are flawless.
Plus the have real Class.
I would buy a used Finnbear in a heartbeat if I was in the market for a rifle.
Of course this is dependent on condition.
Good Luck.
Post by: Miles on May 20, 2017, 07:43:15 AM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 20, 2017, 08:00:02 AM
Huge difference.
You may never understand, but that's alright.
Post by: JakeLand on May 20, 2017, 08:05:52 AM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 20, 2017, 08:14:57 AM
Killing fair chase Elk in Washington on a regular basis.
Having a nice rifle is gravy.
I take pride in having nice equipment.
Hopefully nothing is wrong with that.
And yea, I think that some of the older rifles are classy.
I believe that the word "Classic" could be used instead.
That's your call.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2017, 08:24:43 AM
Sooo having a sako says you're classy ? Im just fine NOT being labeled classy :twocents:
No.. Sako's are classy. You threw a ABC, NBC, CNN, Newyork Times twist on that. :chuckle:
Post by: hunter399 on May 20, 2017, 08:25:51 AM
That was the best thing I heared all day that was great .For a factory rifle it's hard to beat a tikka. They have a great factory trigger that's easily adjustable. The action is already square so if you do want to rebarrel it you have a good starting place unlike some that need trued so it saves you money. The action is extremely smooth. They shoot great out of the box. They are reasonably priced. Fairly light weight to start with so you can throw a heavier scope on if you want and still have a packable rifle.
I own a few different rifles, and for the price a tikka is extremely hard to beat for a hunting rifle.
If he were to purchase a Tikka. Then he would end up purchasing a Toyota Tacoma TRD, some Sitka "Attack Pants", a mirror on a telescopic pole so he could check out his own Azz while in the field ( Which could second as a monopod or a treaking pole), a app to find the nearest transgender restroom, some factory Barnes bullet crap ammo offering. :tup:
Get a Remington and save yourself the discredit!
Any self respecting man would choose a Savage ;)
Anything but a Tikka! :pee:
+1 on the rem 700
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 20, 2017, 08:32:01 AM
Thanks,
It's good to have support in the SAKO department.
We should swap pictures someday.
The Rifles, not us, that would be weird.
Regards,
Rob.
Post by: hunter399 on May 20, 2017, 08:38:11 AM
Post by: hunter399 on May 20, 2017, 08:43:32 AM
BiggerHammer,Just the fact you thought about swap pics of each other is weird. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Thanks,
It's good to have support in the SAKO department.
We should swap pictures someday.
The Rifles, not us, that would be weird.
Regards,
Rob.
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2017, 09:09:31 AM
BiggerHammer,Just the fact you thought about swap pics of each other is weird. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Thanks,
It's good to have support in the SAKO department.
We should swap pictures someday.
The Rifles, not us, that would be weird.
Regards,
Rob.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Miles on May 20, 2017, 09:49:59 AM
And that's ok, we understand it's a status thing.
Post by: JakeLand on May 20, 2017, 10:07:44 AM
I think you "Sako boys" are just upset that the Tikka can do everything your overpriced "classy" rifle can at 1/3 of the cost.My :twocents: too
And that's ok, we understand it's a status thing.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 20, 2017, 10:18:18 AM
Post by: Bofire on May 20, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
off the shelf I'll take a cheap Tikka.
Carl
Post by: Alchase on May 20, 2017, 10:40:27 AM
I think you "Sako boys" are just upset that the Tikka can do everything your overpriced "classy" rifle can at 1/3 of the cost.
And that's ok, we understand it's a status thing.
LOL, uhm no.
I have nothing against Tikka's, or any other brand of rifle. Their are a few I do not like for one reason or another.
If you pick up a Sako, right away you can tell their build quality is excellent.
Pick up a Tikka in one hand and a Sako in the other. The fit and finish, machining, and quality is immediately noticeable.
Sako triggers have an excellent break. And they shoot amazing out of the box.
I have owned many rifles and I still own quite a few, Rugers, Winchesters, Savages, Brownings, Wheatherbys.
My Sako's build fit, shootability is better then all of them, and the price point is half of some.
Any rifle can kill deer, they are a working tool.
Some rifles while still working tools, are fine pieces of engineering, and some are art as well.
:) I have two old Sakos. Never thought of them as Classy. Accurate yes, over weight yep, awkward stock design YES, square forearm, yep, action works like a mauser, it works every time but it aint smooth. now my pre 64 Winnys, have class but a lot of other issues.
off the shelf I'll take a cheap Tikka.
Carl
My Sako Finlight 300 WM, weighs 6.3 pounds,
Post by: Jellymon on May 20, 2017, 03:36:53 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on May 20, 2017, 03:51:10 PM
Post by: Igottanewknee on May 20, 2017, 04:53:19 PM
Never worried about looking classy while hunting. Do you guys do your makeup before heading out too?Only on Saturdays...... but it doesn't help me shoot any better.... 8)
Post by: biggfish on May 20, 2017, 05:00:22 PM
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Post by: jdb on May 20, 2017, 06:35:01 PM
Whatever you like is what i say.What is the deal with weight?I don't get it,Some of my rifles weigh more than 10 pounds when fully set up.I'm sure my grandpa didn't have some 6.5 pound hunting rifle either but he still hunted.Holding tight groups with a super light rifle i don't think comes very easy except with a super light load IE .22 or so.So what is the big deal with the weight?Seriously to i would like to hear honest answers. :dunno:my answer is I'm a wimp and don't like carrying a heavy rifle over hill and dale.
Post by: Oh Mah on May 20, 2017, 07:07:55 PM
Post by: Miles on May 20, 2017, 07:59:47 PM
OK so what is heavy?. When you can't lift it high enough to clear the truck window and get it firmly rested on the mirror.
Post by: Alchase on May 20, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
I went out looking to buy a sako this year. Holding both the sako and tikka in my hands I just didn't see an extra $1000 in the sako. I bought the Tikka. Shoots tiny groups, trigger breaks like glass, and is lightweight. What would I have gained with the sako? I'm not sure. But I did save $1000 I can put towards a Toyota, some Sitka gear, a selfie stick, and some Barnes ammo. :tup:
Nicely done, lol
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2017, 08:24:58 PM
OK so what is heavy?. When you can't lift it high enough to clear the truck window and get it firmly rested on the mirror.
That's why I like short barreled AR's for a truck rifle.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 20, 2017, 08:29:35 PM
OK so what is heavy?. When you can't lift it high enough to clear the truck window and get it firmly rested on the mirror.
That's why I like short barreled AR's for a truck rifle.
Wait!
A magazine pouch that attaches to your truck sun visor!
Post by: Alchase on May 20, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
OK so what is heavy?. When you can't lift it high enough to clear the truck window and get it firmly rested on the mirror.
That's why I like short barreled AR's for a truck rifle.
Wait!
A magazine pouch that attaches to your truck sun visor!
Use your beer holder :dunno:
Post by: Oh Mah on May 20, 2017, 08:50:26 PM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on May 20, 2017, 08:51:05 PM
That's empty.
I'm guessing about 14 pounds with 4 rounds.
I remember my dad explaining rifle weight and barrel length when I was a kid.
"A bit of heft adds some stability and helps to minimize drift when shooting".
It is just as important when shooting quickly in that you want that gun to settle down.
Shooting is not about muscle control, it's about barrel control and touching off the shot when things look good.
In my opinion, the old man was right 45 years ago and it still holds true.
I have a Ruger International in .308.
It has a 17.5" barrel and is light as a feather.
Cute rifle, I have shot a few deer with it.
But it is to light to control, it does not want to "Settle".
The heavier rifles seem to handle better.
Also better swing on moving game.
Oh Mah, does this answer your question?
Of course I'm no expert and this is only my opinion.
As a side note, my heavy barrel 22-250 Rem 700 must weigh 11-12 pounds with scope.
To heavy to hunt deer (If it were legal).
I think that the 9.25 pounds is plenty heavy and I can see getting down to 8.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 20, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
OK so what is heavy?. When you can't lift it high enough to clear the truck window and get it firmly rested on the mirror.
That's why I like short barreled AR's for a truck rifle.
Wait!
A magazine pouch that attaches to your truck sun visor!
Use your beer holder :dunno:
Then where do I put my beer?
Post by: Oh Mah on May 20, 2017, 08:56:48 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2017, 10:34:23 PM
You need to be competent in readying the rifle while applying the brake, you then slam whatever beverage you have in your "Cozy". Turn the cozzied empty beverage sideways and rest it on the top of your side mirror and rest your firearm of choice on top. This protects your side mirror and prevents scratching your "Classy" junk due to recoil.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F40CFC2C9-F7F1-4B52-847E-9E1CFD194813_zpsphsvu8id.jpg&hash=533ec0a8066dc0d4d4863d686f6775fc38933c2a) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40CFC2C9-F7F1-4B52-847E-9E1CFD194813_zpsphsvu8id.jpg.html)
Post by: jdb on May 21, 2017, 01:29:16 AM
OK so what is heavy?my .270 tips the scale at 7.5lbs I wouldn't want it any heavier. I'd really like to get it down around 7lbs but I'm not willing to spend the money to shave those last few ounces and it just keeps killing stuff so I can't bring myself to buy a lighter rifle.
Post by: Alchase on May 21, 2017, 09:35:39 AM
The secret is a good "Cozy". Upon first contact with your intended victim, usually a visual on a mangy Yote within 600 or so yards which is within engagement range here in Eastern WA. Wet side, can't be more than 123.6 yards or it's unethical or you have to listen to baseless banter about rifle weight, optics weight, if your Toyota TRD has a full tank of fuel and is slightly yawed to one side and their need for a ballistics program to compensate for the yaw at 123.6 yards(Max ethical range) without going through Delta Sniper School.
You need to be competent in readying the rifle while applying the brake, you then slam whatever beverage you have in your "Cozy". Turn the cozzied empty beverage sideways and rest it on the top of your side mirror and rest your firearm of choice on top. This protects your side mirror and prevents scratching your "Classy" junk due to recoil.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F40CFC2C9-F7F1-4B52-847E-9E1CFD194813_zpsphsvu8id.jpg&hash=533ec0a8066dc0d4d4863d686f6775fc38933c2a) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40CFC2C9-F7F1-4B52-847E-9E1CFD194813_zpsphsvu8id.jpg.html)
:yeah:
And once you have gradeated past Delta Sniper School to Uber Awesomeness, you have already learned all the fancy figerin and goseintas, and the ultimate of prefire techniques.
the four most infuential words ever known gunfigerin, by the acronym
HMBWT
For the rest of you wannabes that translates to
"Hold My Beer, Watch This"
:tup:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 21, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
The secret is a good "Cozy". Upon first contact with your intended victim, usually a visual on a mangy Yote within 600 or so yards which is within engagement range here in Eastern WA. Wet side, can't be more than 123.6 yards or it's unethical or you have to listen to baseless banter about rifle weight, optics weight, if your Toyota TRD has a full tank of fuel and is slightly yawed to one side and their need for a ballistics program to compensate for the yaw at 123.6 yards(Max ethical range) without going through Delta Sniper School.
You need to be competent in readying the rifle while applying the brake, you then slam whatever beverage you have in your "Cozy". Turn the cozzied empty beverage sideways and rest it on the top of your side mirror and rest your firearm of choice on top. This protects your side mirror and prevents scratching your "Classy" junk due to recoil.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F40CFC2C9-F7F1-4B52-847E-9E1CFD194813_zpsphsvu8id.jpg&hash=533ec0a8066dc0d4d4863d686f6775fc38933c2a) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/40CFC2C9-F7F1-4B52-847E-9E1CFD194813_zpsphsvu8id.jpg.html)
:yeah:
And once you have gradeated past Delta Sniper School to Uber Awesomeness, you have already learned all the fancy figerin and goseintas, and the ultimate of prefire techniques.
the four most infuential words ever known gunfigerin, by the acronym
HMBWT
For the rest of you wannabes that translates to
"Hold My Beer, Watch This"
:tup:
OPSEC
Let's not post the secrets of today's operational operating operator.
Post by: JakeLand on May 21, 2017, 09:55:18 AM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on May 21, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
So while popping shots at 600 yards in your truck do you ask your cousin " twice removed " to crack a cold one and scoot on over , that's why you have a bench seat
If he ain't busy with the 249
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 21, 2017, 10:13:56 AM
8) :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: 8)
Post by: Alchase on May 21, 2017, 10:21:35 AM
So while popping shots at 600 yards in your truck do you ask your cousin " twice removed " to crack a cold one and scoot on over , that's why you have a bench seat
If he ain't busy with the 249
That is classic! :salute:
This thread should now be locked, and stickied with that pic , no one can beat Jay's pic. :bow:
A road hunters wet dream, I need to change my shorts :o
Post by: Jolten on May 21, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
So while popping shots at 600 yards in your truck do you ask your cousin " twice removed " to crack a cold one and scoot on over , that's why you have a bench seat
If he ain't busy with the 249
The wife has really bad aim while coyote hunting... She prefers to use this
Post by: Alchase on May 21, 2017, 03:46:19 PM
Post by: hunter399 on May 21, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :o
Post by: thinkingman on May 21, 2017, 11:39:54 PM
I went out looking to buy a sako this year. Holding both the sako and tikka in my hands I just didn't see an extra $1000 in the sako. I bought the Tikka. Shoots tiny groups, trigger breaks like glass, and is lightweight. What would I have gained with the sako? I'm not sure. But I did save $1000 I can put towards a Toyota, some Sitka gear, a selfie stick, and some Barnes ammo. :tup:Spend that grand on a block lift for your Chevy, a new Glock, or a Sig wannabe 1911.
Classy
Post by: biggfish on August 31, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
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