Post by: daddyelk on May 26, 2017, 04:35:50 PM
Post by: rackattack on May 26, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Post by: chester on May 26, 2017, 04:54:18 PM
Good suggestion. I just called and had them switch mine to the same thing. :chuckle:
:yeah:
Post by: Duckslayer89 on May 26, 2017, 05:38:18 PM
Post by: Greg Mullins on May 26, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
Post by: wheels on May 26, 2017, 06:04:36 PM
Post by: Miles on May 26, 2017, 06:08:38 PM
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Post by: buglebuster on May 26, 2017, 06:32:07 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on May 26, 2017, 06:35:17 PM
I don't remember but the results will be the same
:yeah:
Seriously, I put so little stake in the outcome I really can't remember. It was either points, or some of the wetside hunts- I know that for sure.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 26, 2017, 06:47:43 PM
Post by: Mfowl on May 26, 2017, 06:51:55 PM
Post by: Fullabull on May 26, 2017, 09:03:36 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on May 26, 2017, 09:10:14 PM
Going to Idaho this year so put in for points, my son and I now have 12 points each. Hope to put in as party next year as a group and just use one of our points to get Peaches or something. Then we can get drawn a couple times in Less time. I hope . :)
If you draw as a group everyone in the group goes back to zero.
Post by: Roperfive88 on May 26, 2017, 09:12:11 PM
Going to Idaho this year so put in for points, my son and I now have 12 points each. Hope to put in as party next year as a group and just use one of our points to get Peaches or something. Then we can get drawn a couple times in Less time. I hope . :)
Thats not how it works putting in a party will use both your points. Putting in as a group hurts your odd because you are one application and there is one less tag you can draw. If there is one tag left you cant draw it because there are 2 of you.
Post by: Crunchy on May 26, 2017, 09:15:44 PM
Post by: lee on May 27, 2017, 06:41:56 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 27, 2017, 07:47:20 AM
Post by: X-Force on May 27, 2017, 07:49:11 AM
Post by: Westside88 on May 27, 2017, 07:55:04 AM
Post by: bobcat on May 27, 2017, 08:00:45 AM
I'm feeling lucky this year. :IBCOOL:
Post by: poopooheaddad on May 27, 2017, 08:59:25 AM
Post by: daddyelk on May 27, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
Post by: Westside88 on May 27, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
A west side rifle tag with a September season.
I'm feeling lucky this year. :IBCOOL:
Good luck! They are fun tags to have
Post by: daddyelk on May 27, 2017, 09:06:06 AM
Peaches, Muzzy, 17 points,,,come on baby..
That would be a great tag to have. I almost went that route but my dad wanted to go muzzy this year. I didn't want to risk us both drawing
Post by: Rainstorm Hunter on May 27, 2017, 11:31:27 AM
Post by: Critter Ritter on May 27, 2017, 05:49:55 PM
Post by: sumpnz on May 27, 2017, 08:10:24 PM
Points......as often happens I couldn't fully commit to the time if I were to draw so I put in for points and will hunt west side muzzy this year. If/when I finally draw a quality elk tag I want to be able to give it the time it deserves in scouting and planning to make it a OIL experience
:yeah: Except I do modern, not smoke poles.
Post by: vandeman17 on May 27, 2017, 08:16:29 PM
Points......as often happens I couldn't fully commit to the time if I were to draw so I put in for points and will hunt west side muzzy this year. If/when I finally draw a quality elk tag I want to be able to give it the time it deserves in scouting and planning to make it a OIL experience
:yeah: Except I do modern, not smoke poles.
I used to do the same but don't anymore. With the low odds that are only getting worse every year, I believe in applying every season unless there was something that 100% held me away from a hunt if drawn. Since it is most likely a "once in a lifetime" hunt I would treat it accordingly and change any plans to make it work. :twocents:
Post by: coachcw on May 27, 2017, 08:19:38 PM
Post by: Stein on May 27, 2017, 09:29:57 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 27, 2017, 09:35:17 PM
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Post by: HntnFsh on May 27, 2017, 09:45:29 PM
Dayton for sure, probably Peaches. In all reality, I just click a few that would be great and then remember it doesn't really matter what I chose with 6 points.
I think it does. I drew Dayton Muzzy with 7! First and only time I ever put in for an eastside tag.
Few years before that drew Late Swakane rifle with 3.
Post by: sumpnz on May 27, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
Points......as often happens I couldn't fully commit to the time if I were to draw so I put in for points and will hunt west side muzzy this year. If/when I finally draw a quality elk tag I want to be able to give it the time it deserves in scouting and planning to make it a OIL experience
:yeah: Except I do modern, not smoke poles.
I used to do the same but don't anymore. With the low odds that are only getting worse every year, I believe in applying every season unless there was something that 100% held me away from a hunt if drawn. Since it is most likely a "once in a lifetime" hunt I would treat it accordingly and change any plans to make it work. :twocents:
When the kids aren't so little that might be an option. My 2 olders are getting to the age where I can take them hunting (Thing 1 passed Hunter Safety just before she turned 10 though last year at 12 was the first time I actually took her hunting), but the 2 youngers are only 4 and 5. It'll be a bit before they're old enough to let me get away for a Quality hunt.
Post by: beav1980 on May 28, 2017, 07:05:51 PM
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Post by: Eli346 on May 28, 2017, 07:17:40 PM
Post by: RB on May 28, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Post by: TommyGun496 on May 29, 2017, 07:51:43 AM
Post by: bearpaw on May 29, 2017, 08:10:45 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 29, 2017, 08:30:59 AM
wenahaBuddy and I did Wenaha at 60 last year - good times. 44 miles in 4 days packout when our horse packer wasnt available.
Post by: bearpaw on May 29, 2017, 08:44:11 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on May 29, 2017, 09:30:53 AM
I don't remember but the results will be the sameColockum and :yeah:
Post by: teanawayslayer on May 29, 2017, 09:42:31 AM
Post by: ffbowhunter on May 29, 2017, 10:13:25 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 29, 2017, 10:24:44 AM
Post by: gee_unit360 on May 29, 2017, 10:38:09 AM
2. Bethel Ridge Muzzle
Post by: PAW66 on May 29, 2017, 03:21:24 PM
2. Little Naches
Post by: teanawayslayer on May 29, 2017, 06:56:31 PM
334 any bull that you can skirt the rules to kill...I heard it's a good tag.:chuckle:
Post by: jeffitz on May 29, 2017, 07:15:05 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 29, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
East Wenaha and Tucannon with 17 points and Dave W is getting a call if i draw
Man up ! You can do Preacher Creek with camp and bull on your back. Its only 7 miles down to hell. :)
Post by: Fish4Fun on May 30, 2017, 10:54:37 AM
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 11:10:51 AM
Q, 2nd peaches archery
Bull white river muzzle
goast point cow.
Post by: Matth on May 30, 2017, 04:57:43 PM
A west side rifle tag with a September season.Stay off my tag
I'm feeling lucky this year. :IBCOOL:
Post by: Brushbuster on May 30, 2017, 05:05:05 PM
A west side rifle tag with a September season.Stay off my tag
I'm feeling lucky this year. :IBCOOL:
Me too but will only have 2 pts.
Post by: Jimmy33 on May 30, 2017, 09:36:56 PM
1. Colockum (if I get lucky)
2. Observatory ( hopefully to use up my points here)
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Post by: scottfrick on May 30, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
Post by: E35alex on May 31, 2017, 09:23:39 AM
Post by: bobcat on May 31, 2017, 09:34:57 AM
A west side rifle tag with a September season.Stay off my tag
I'm feeling lucky this year. :IBCOOL:
I want it more than you do. :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on May 31, 2017, 09:36:27 AM
Sounds like me and Bobcat put in for the same one!
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Send me a PM with what you applied for and I'll tell you if it's the same one. :tup:
Post by: Jpmiller on May 31, 2017, 10:26:12 AM
Post by: First timer on June 02, 2017, 06:21:58 PM
Post by: JDHasty on June 02, 2017, 09:45:29 PM
I submitted for Moose, Master Hunter, Second Deer, Quality Deer and w/three kids, two under four, if I draw Q Elk I know that I have taken away a chance for someone who can make the time this year to do it right. I want the points in the future when I can make use of the hunt if I get drawn. I submitted sheep ad goat for points too.
I submitted a "hail Mary' for deer in the Desert Unit Modern and should I draw I do have 300 hours of Vacation leave on the books and will burn 200 of it if need be it for that. And should that happen it will be a couple years before I submit for anything but points for hunts that I have to dedicate a lot of time into preparing for before the Season opens and then move there and live in the RV for two or three weeks during the Season.
If/when I draw a coveted tag I will cash in everything else that year and just shoot first the couple deer I see (I can do that in one morning) for our brats , Italian sausage and ground meat and a few birds and do my absolute best to make the most of it by just concentrating on that one tag.
Post by: kselkhunter on June 02, 2017, 10:43:47 PM
Post by: RatRodMike on June 02, 2017, 11:08:00 PM
Post by: bone head on June 03, 2017, 12:01:15 AM
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 03, 2017, 02:30:04 PM
So, we had to settle for another area.
Post by: yakimanoob on June 04, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
I don't remember but the results will be the same:yeah:
Only my second year applying so I have no hope. I'm pretty sure I applied for Bethel or Rimrock because they're close.
Post by: jstone on June 04, 2017, 04:41:54 PM
Post by: geauxtigers on June 11, 2017, 09:49:25 PM
Post by: Mfowl on June 11, 2017, 10:16:30 PM
I went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any application
Just a FYI, the average points category is for applicants in that hunt choice, not average points to draw that tag.
Post by: huntnnw on June 11, 2017, 11:05:31 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 12, 2017, 04:18:46 AM
I went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any application
Just a FYI, the average points category is for applicants in that hunt choice, not average points to draw that tag.
Damn I thought that was average points to draw!
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 12, 2017, 06:41:44 AM
I went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any application
Just a FYI, the average points category is for applicants in that hunt choice, not average points to draw that tag.
Actually I don't think that's right.
I think it's the average points of the people who drew the previous year...
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Post by: jkononen on June 12, 2017, 06:43:36 AM
That's what I always thoughtI went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any application
Just a FYI, the average points category is for applicants in that hunt choice, not average points to draw that tag.
Actually I don't think that's right.
I think it's the average points of the people who drew the previous year...
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Post by: boneaddict on June 12, 2017, 06:49:28 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 12, 2017, 06:59:02 AM
I went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any applicationYou have a better than average chance - so instead of a 1:100 chance maybe you have a one in 30 chance. But hey its somethin right ? :)
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 12, 2017, 08:10:48 AM
2nd choice peaches Ridge archery
""BULL"":White River muzzleloader.
Ghost pointed everything else
Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2017, 08:29:54 AM
I went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any application
Just a FYI, the average points category is for applicants in that hunt choice, not average points to draw that tag.
Actually I don't think that's right.
I think it's the average points of the people who drew the previous year...
Yes, that's correct. It's the average of those who drew that permit. But it's pretty much a meaningless number. Especially when there are very few permits for a particular hunt.
Just as an example look at the Mudflow quality permit. 5 permits and it shows a total of 725 applications in 2016 and an average of 7 points of those who drew the permit.
But you look at the numbers and see that there were 65 applications with 7 points. None of them drew. 44 applications with 8 points- none drew. 25 applications with 9 points- none drew. 26 applications with 10 points- 1 drew. 66 applications that had from 11 to 20 points and only one of those drew, one with 15 points.
All I'm saying is definitely don't look at the average points and think that just because you have that many, or more, that you have a good chance of drawing.
Post by: sumpnz on June 12, 2017, 11:13:19 AM
I went with westside and have 11 points on a tag that had average points of 8 last year. First time I've truly had high hopes for any application
Just a FYI, the average points category is for applicants in that hunt choice, not average points to draw that tag.
Actually I don't think that's right.
I think it's the average points of the people who drew the previous year...
Yes, that's correct. It's the average of those who drew that permit. But it's pretty much a meaningless number. Especially when there are very few permits for a particular hunt.
Just as an example look at the Mudflow quality permit. 5 permits and it shows a total of 725 applications in 2016 and an average of 7 points of those who drew the permit.
But you look at the numbers and see that there were 65 applications with 7 points. None of them drew. 44 applications with 8 points- none drew. 25 applications with 9 points- none drew. 26 applications with 10 points- 1 drew. 66 applications that had from 11 to 20 points and only one of those drew, one with 15 points.
All I'm saying is definitely don't look at the average points and think that just because you have that many, or more, that you have a good chance of drawing.
Yep. But, with something the youth elk tag I put my daughter in for, last year there were 72 applicants for 10 tags, and average to draw was 2.7 points. IIRC 16 applicants drew a different tag. Since my daughter will have 4 points in the draw this year, I'd say that gives her decent odds. Far from guaranteed of course, but not bad. Last year someone with 6 points failed to draw that tag. Can't be sure if that person drew another tag though. One of the 2 with 5 points failed to draw it, as did 3 out the 4 with 4 points. Again, can't know if any of them drew a different tag. But, that's still better odds than the 1 out of 35 with a single point that actually drew, or the 4 out of 25 with 2 points that succeeded in drawing.
Ultimately, while I'd love it if she draws that tag, if she doesn't I won't be completely heartbroken if she doesn't get it. She just 13, and physically I think it might be a good thing if it takes an extra year for her to draw.
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 13, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 13, 2017, 01:56:05 PM
why is it when I look at the point spread for the white River muzzle loader "bull" tag it says ther were 7 tags given out but I only count 5? did I miss somthing?
I see 6 applications were selected, and 7 applicants, meaning one of the applications was for two people who applied as a group.