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Title: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 12:12:40 PM
gmu 653 white river. Does anyone have any good ideas or experience on how to hunt this unit. if selected I was thinking walk Pacific Crest Trail look for drainages and drop down the ones that look good also maybe find a way to get to good parts of the Hancock Tree Farm border? does anyone know the best way to get to Hancock reform border or if that's worthwhile? is anyone have any other good ideas on how and where to hunt this unit or does anyone know if my ideas r worth it?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: highside74 on May 30, 2017, 12:44:04 PM
Hunt the ski slopes. And don't over look Hancock land. There is a few spots I'll point you to in Hancock if you draw. Ive had the tag twice. 1st year I hunted Hancock and the ski slopes, last year I hunted public land but not the ski slopes. If I were to draw again I would go into Hancock again.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on May 30, 2017, 12:49:27 PM
I thought you had to draw an elk tag to hunt hancock land?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: grundy53 on May 30, 2017, 12:57:53 PM
I thought you had to draw an elk tag to hunt hancock land?
You're thinking of their Kapowsin tree farm.

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Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on May 30, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
I thought you had to draw an elk tag to hunt hancock land?
You're thinking of their Kapowsin tree farm.

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so you dont need to purchase a pass to hunt that side then ?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: grundy53 on May 30, 2017, 01:08:25 PM


I thought you had to draw an elk tag to hunt hancock land?
You're thinking of their Kapowsin tree farm.

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so you dont need to purchase a pass to hunt that side then ?

Yes you do. But you Hancock doesn't do an elk drawing for that tree farm. Only the Kapowsin and Eatonville farms.

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Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: JoeE on May 30, 2017, 01:13:26 PM
It depends a lot of the weather and snow level. Hunting up by the PCT can be great unless it's snowed in.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Falcon on May 30, 2017, 01:15:36 PM
Hunt the ski slopes. And don't over look Hancock land. There is a few spots I'll point you to in Hancock if you draw. Ive had the tag twice. 1st year I hunted Hancock and the ski slopes, last year I hunted public land but not the ski slopes. If I were to draw again I would go into Hancock again.

How did you do on your 2 hunts?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Falcon on May 30, 2017, 01:24:10 PM
Had the permit in 2014.  Hunted hard and saw about a dozen
Bulls.  Goal was a mature 6 point and I blew my 1 stock so
I had tag soup.  No regrets. Had a great time in the woods. 
Lots of elk in the crystal area.  I also like the washed out road section
Of the west fork white river drainage.  Of course if there a bunch of
Snow buck creek, huckleberry ridge are great bets.   I also had
The pass.  Wouldn't go that route again.  Plenty of elk in that unit
For a guy who is willing to burn some boot leather👊
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: highside74 on May 30, 2017, 01:42:30 PM
Hunt the ski slopes. And don't over look Hancock land. There is a few spots I'll point you to in Hancock if you draw. Ive had the tag twice. 1st year I hunted Hancock and the ski slopes, last year I hunted public land but not the ski slopes. If I were to draw again I would go into Hancock again.

How did you do on your 2 hunts?
   

1st year I was pretty new to archery elk hunting. Only 3 seasons in and I don't really count my first season. Had a giant less than 10 yards and made mistakes. Multiple other encounters but again I just didn't know enough to get it all put together.

Last year I killed a 5x5 on my 5th day after passing a bigger 5x5 opening morning and was into plenty of elk. I'm glad I didn't shoot that first one even though he was bigger he was miles from my rig.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 01:54:45 PM
what do u think of the gmu 653 & 346 little natches border kind of in the direction of FSR 7/ north fork little natches river area?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Falcon on May 30, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
Hunt the ski slopes. And don't over look Hancock land. There is a few spots I'll point you to in Hancock if you draw. Ive had the tag twice. 1st year I hunted Hancock and the ski slopes, last year I hunted public land but not the ski slopes. If I were to draw again I would go into Hancock again.

How did you do on your 2 hunts?
   

1st year I was pretty new to archery elk hunting. Only 3 seasons in and I don't really count my first season. Had a giant less than 10 yards and made mistakes. Multiple other encounters but again I just didn't know enough to get it all put together.

Last year I killed a 5x5 on my 5th day after passing a bigger 5x5 opening morning and was into plenty of elk. I'm glad I didn't shoot that first one even though he was bigger he was miles from my rig.

I would call that a great couple of hunts :tup:
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
is there a good spot to hunt on the kapowsin border? 
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tgray on May 30, 2017, 03:40:27 PM
Think I would worry more about drawing the tag first, not an easy draw
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 03:50:03 PM
I too thought it was hard to draw but after looking at the point spread by hunt category/choice it's not as hard as I thought for the muzzle bull tag.  I have 17 bull points. I figure I have about a 20% chance and that's pretty good compared to the other tags.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tgray on May 30, 2017, 03:54:45 PM
Yeah I drew that tag 2 years ago with 16 points. Plenty of elk
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 30, 2017, 03:56:07 PM
It was my only choice this year with 6 points.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: trophyhunt on May 30, 2017, 04:06:17 PM
I too thought it was hard to draw but after looking at the point spread by hunt category/choice it's not as hard as I thought for the muzzle bull tag.  I have 17 bull points. I figure I have about a 20% chance and that's pretty good compared to the other tags.
I had 21 points last year, didn't draw the muzzy, but Wdfw might like you?!
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Falcon on May 30, 2017, 04:36:28 PM
I too thought it was hard to draw but after looking at the point spread by hunt category/choice it's not as hard as I thought for the muzzle bull tag.  I have 17 bull points. I figure I have about a 20% chance and that's pretty good compared to the other tags.
I had 21 points last year, didn't draw the muzzy, but Wdfw might like you?!

Jerry,
Why would you say that about your game dept? You're pretty much their poster child  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: highside74 on May 30, 2017, 04:41:55 PM
is there a good spot to hunt on the kapowsin border?

You draw and I'll answer that question with instructions. Prepare to hike is all I'll say.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: trophyhunt on May 30, 2017, 04:49:58 PM
I too thought it was hard to draw but after looking at the point spread by hunt category/choice it's not as hard as I thought for the muzzle bull tag.  I have 17 bull points. I figure I have about a 20% chance and that's pretty good compared to the other tags.
I had 21 points last year, didn't draw the muzzy, but Wdfw might like you?!

Jerry,
Why would you say that about your game dept? You're pretty much their poster child  :IBCOOL:
ha!!  Whipping boy maybe!
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 06:13:16 PM
I don't think I need to worry about too much snow during the muzzy season do u?
It depends a lot of the weather and snow level. Hunting up by the PCT can be great unless it's snowed in.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 30, 2017, 06:13:44 PM
No.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
I too thought it was hard to draw but after looking at the point spread by hunt category/choice it's not as hard as I thought for the muzzle bull tag.  I have 17 bull points. I figure I have about a 20% chance and that's pretty good compared to the other tags.
I had 21 points last year, didn't draw the muzzy, but Wdfw might like you?!
I saw that!  u had more points then anyone! sorry man.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 30, 2017, 06:24:31 PM
is there a good spot to hunt on the kapowsin border?

You draw and I'll answer that question with instructions. Prepare to hike is all I'll say.
I had the spring bear tag once and man! is the kapowsin the best!  I've never seen that many elk on the west side and with such a high bull to cow ratio.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: plugger on May 30, 2017, 07:04:38 PM
Drew it 5 years ago, killed  a 5 point, lots of elk and I didn't buy the permit and glad I didn't. My only choice also. Draw it and I will get you some info. Even lend you my maps. modern for me
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Romulus on May 31, 2017, 07:24:00 AM
Not sure how you figure you have 20% chance of drawing this year....more likely have 20% chance of drawing it in next 5 to 10 years.

Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on May 31, 2017, 09:48:29 AM
Not sure how you figure you have 20% chance of drawing this year....more likely have 20% chance of drawing it in next 5 to 10 years.
I'm talking about the muzzy bull tag NOT quality. have u looked at the points spread by hunt choice and/or hunt name/ category?.  I have 17 points. I understand there is the random/luck factor that messes it all %'s up.
I have developed an equation that has been validated by Out Door Central and wdfw. 
just joking...lol.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: beav1980 on May 31, 2017, 09:24:35 PM
Get in the best shape of your life is my advice!!
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 01, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
Get in the best shape of your life is my advice!!
r u saying that this hunt requires more effort and or energy then the average general season elk hunts and or special perm. hunts? if YES please elaborate in more detail and specifics on what ur refuring too please?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: jackelope on June 01, 2017, 08:21:25 AM
Get in the best shape of your life is my advice!!
r u saying that this hunt requires more effort and or energy then the average general season elk hunts and or special perm. hunts? if YES please elaborate in more detail and specifics on what ur refuring too please?

Look at the topo maps. It's big country.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tgray on June 01, 2017, 09:40:11 AM
Get in the best shape of your life is my advice!!
r u saying that this hunt requires more effort and or energy then the average general season elk hunts and or special perm. hunts? if YES please elaborate in more detail and specifics on what ur refuring too please?

Look at the topo maps. It's big country.
All depends on where a guy wants to hunt. With a white river Hancock permit you could drive around all day every day
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Greg Mullins on June 01, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
Just drive into Buckley and go down Sheets Road at 530 any morning and look at those boys in the fields. That's were I'm going because I'm going to draw it myself lol
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: rosscrazyelk on June 01, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
You guys are all delusional there are no elk in the white river :peep:
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scottfrick on June 01, 2017, 07:07:29 PM
Just drive into Buckley and go down Sheets Road at 530 any morning and look at those boys in the fields. That's were I'm going because I'm going to draw it myself lol
What an exciting hunt :dunno:
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: geauxtigers on June 11, 2017, 09:53:14 PM
Get in the best shape of your life is my advice!!
r u saying that this hunt requires more effort and or energy then the average general season elk hunts and or special perm. hunts? if YES please elaborate in more detail and specifics on what ur refuring too please?

It's more fun and you can see a lot more up in the alpine, my  :twocents: anyway.  Hunting that requires a lot of hiking over rugged ground.  I did 30+ miles in a few days with my buddy last year, so yes get in the best shape you can
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: beav1980 on June 13, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
It is very steep country! Gonwalk the slopes of Crystal mtn and tell me it's not steep!

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Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Romulus on June 14, 2017, 02:26:53 PM
Focus on Scatter Creek flats .... T Gray and I have an old friend who had some good luck there in the past.....you wont need to be in shape....unless you don't have a permit........ : :dunno:
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tgray on June 14, 2017, 05:19:49 PM
Focus on Scatter Creek flats .... T Gray and I have an old friend who had some good luck there in the past.....you wont need to be in shape....unless you don't have a permit........ : :dunno:
Big bulls in that area!
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tgray on June 15, 2017, 01:14:36 PM
Draw the tag???
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 15, 2017, 01:16:16 PM
no....did u get anything?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: trophyhunt on June 15, 2017, 01:30:07 PM
no....did u get anything?
sorry man, you don't want it this year anyway, start date is as late as it gets. 
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tgray on June 15, 2017, 01:43:51 PM
no....did u get anything?
buck deer tag for blues, that's it
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: jae on June 15, 2017, 06:56:04 PM
Looks like I will be driving around with my wife's Grandpa in the unit.  He is in his 90s so we will not get to far from the road. Man can he shoot though, Old world war 11 Marine and he is still a hell of a shot. looking forward to driving him around again this year.
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 15, 2017, 07:13:00 PM
Looks like I will be driving around with my wife's Grandpa in the unit.  He is in his 90s so we will not get to far from the road. Man can he shoot though, Old world war 11 Marine and he is still a hell of a shot. looking forward to driving him around again this year.
Good luck to you guys :tup: Be sure to post pics and story if he gets one
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Falcon on June 17, 2017, 09:26:34 PM
Looks like I will be driving around with my wife's Grandpa in the unit.  He is in his 90s so we will not get to far from the road. Man can he shoot though, Old world war 11 Marine and he is still a hell of a shot. looking forward to driving him around again this year.

Hope for a good early snow storm.   The buck creek flats and huckleberry ridge will be prime :tup:
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tjsr61 on July 12, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
My buddy drew an archery tag for this unit this year. Was looking at going into Big Crow Basin. Any input? Thanks
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: Tbar on July 12, 2017, 03:55:50 PM
My buddy drew an archery tag for this unit this year. Was looking at going into Big Crow Basin. Any input? Thanks
Isn't big crow in 342?
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: tjsr61 on July 12, 2017, 04:08:34 PM
looking at gmu map its in both on the web map from wdfw
Title: Re: white River gmu 653
Post by: scoutdog346 on July 22, 2017, 05:00:49 PM
My buddy drew an archery tag for this unit this year. Was looking at going into Big Crow Basin. Any input? Thanks
Isn't big crow in 342?
big crow is not 342 i think its in GMU 346 and 346 is on the border of White River.
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