Post by: Gringo31 on June 13, 2017, 09:37:20 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170614/2d1ca1f7ccfd416dbe53e758f97b30e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170614/24e171ad7dabe65d9e55a4c84d6d0e37.jpg)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: dreamunelk on June 13, 2017, 09:47:33 PM
Maybe it is just a kid who caught a large fish and her parents got a great picture that everyone agrees should be shared!
Great picture in my book! Makes me smile!
Post by: Alchase on June 13, 2017, 09:49:32 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 13, 2017, 10:01:38 PM
Post by: Dan-o on June 13, 2017, 10:11:46 PM
Post by: Stein on June 13, 2017, 10:23:45 PM
Quote
Regulation pamphlet cover showing a young girl holding a rainbow trout
Post by: bullfisher on June 13, 2017, 10:45:17 PM
But its a steelhead.
Post by: Stein on June 13, 2017, 11:03:56 PM
Post by: Mfowl on June 13, 2017, 11:13:10 PM
Post by: bullfisher on June 13, 2017, 11:39:02 PM
Looks like its got a fly in its mouth, I'm guessing Yakima River rainbow. I'd like to know what makes it a steelhead specifically.If you're walkin down the trail with that fish swingin from your stringer and bump into a warden, its a steelhead.
If a cute little girl holds it up for the cover of the regs, its a rainbow. :chuckle:
Actually, I believe it depends on the body of water and size of the fish. Kinda like lake washington's rainbow/steelhead and kokane/sockeye rule.
The backdrop of the river and pristine tail of that fish does raise an eyebrow though. Probably why they cut it out of the cover shot.
Post by: Mfowl on June 13, 2017, 11:56:33 PM
Looks like its got a fly in its mouth, I'm guessing Yakima River rainbow. I'd like to know what makes it a steelhead specifically.If you're walkin down the trail with that fish swingin from your stringer and bump into a warden, its a steelhead.
If a cute little girl holds it up for the cover of the regs, its a rainbow. :chuckle:
Actually, I believe it depends on the body of water and size of the fish. Kinda like lake washington's rainbow/steelhead and kokane/sockeye rule.
The backdrop of the river and pristine tail of that fish does raise an eyebrow though. Probably why they cut it out of the cover shot.
I agree, its questionable as to what it really is. But its a great pic of a little girl having fun on the river bank! I'm fine with that.
Post by: gee_unit360 on June 14, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on June 14, 2017, 04:44:05 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: plugger on June 14, 2017, 04:54:17 AM
Post by: kodiak 907 on June 14, 2017, 04:54:32 AM
Post by: plugger on June 14, 2017, 04:58:31 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 14, 2017, 05:12:13 AM
That fish identifies as a carp... so it's fine. (Sarcasm)
Lol. Is it unicorn season?!?
Post by: X-Force on June 14, 2017, 05:39:03 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 14, 2017, 05:44:06 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 14, 2017, 05:50:12 AM
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Miles on June 14, 2017, 06:00:44 AM
People are getting too anal about this kind of stuff
It runs all up and down the west coast.
Post by: MADMAX on June 14, 2017, 06:15:18 AM
thats so true back east it would be little girl caught one and its a pissaaah
Post by: Henrydog on June 14, 2017, 06:17:42 AM
I believe it is a wild bow, but I don't care if it is a steelhead GOOD for her and GOOD for her parents for taking her fishing.
The problem is the imbedded Libs in State and Federal government that make these stupid rules caving to Enviro wacko groups and pushing their agenda. Their agenda is to get you off the water and out of the woods and into a Planned Urban Environment in tax friendly Washington.
I don't know the kid, but this is stupid, I hope she ate with a big slab of butter. Oh wait butter causes heart problems so lets protect her from that.
Rant over
Post by: Gringo31 on June 14, 2017, 06:22:22 AM
I suppose I mean that I like they have to admit being human.....the admitted their "mistake" (minor as it may be). The whole thing makes me smile a little.
Post by: grundy53 on June 14, 2017, 06:32:17 AM
Its a damn kid with a fish, she is happy. That is what we all claim we want is kids to go hunting/fishing.I don't think people have a problem with the kid or the fish. The point is, like you said the game department made a stupid rule that they expect us to follow. Then went and posted a picture of someone breaking their dumb rule. I think it's just a shot at wdfw.
I believe it is a wild bow, but I don't care if it is a steelhead GOOD for her and GOOD for her parents for taking her fishing.
The problem is the imbedded Libs in State and Federal government that make these stupid rules caving to Enviro wacko groups and pushing their agenda. Their agenda is to get you off the water and out of the woods and into a Planned Urban Environment in tax friendly Washington.
I don't know the kid, but this is stupid, I hope she ate with a big slab of butter. Oh wait butter causes heart problems so lets protect her from that.
Rant over
Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk
Post by: Henrydog on June 14, 2017, 06:44:33 AM
Post by: grundy53 on June 14, 2017, 06:49:57 AM
Sent from my E6782 using Tapatalk
Post by: Alchase on June 14, 2017, 10:28:20 AM
If a Steelhead smolt, does not go to sea, is it still a Steelhead?
If a Rainbow goes to sea, does it grow up and become a Steelhead?
If an unclipped hatchery steelhead, is released does it morph into a wild steelhead?
LOL
Post by: kodiak 907 on June 14, 2017, 10:36:42 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 14, 2017, 10:38:44 AM
Post by: Stein on June 14, 2017, 10:41:41 AM
Just for conversation,
If a Steelhead smolt, does not go to sea, is it still a Steelhead?
If a Rainbow goes to sea, does it grow up and become a Steelhead?
If an unclipped hatchery steelhead, is released does it morph into a wild steelhead?
LOL
No
Yes
Yes, provided it goes to sea
Post by: Skillet on June 14, 2017, 10:50:36 AM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 14, 2017, 10:55:45 AM
That fish identifies as a carp... so it's fine. (Sarcasm)
Or, it could be a steelhead that identifies as a rainbow. Much, much more information is needed before we as a group jump to conclusions on perhaps how this multi-colored river dweller identifies himself.
Post by: Alchase on June 14, 2017, 11:20:24 AM
Just for conversation,
If a Steelhead smolt, does not go to sea, is it still a Steelhead?
If a Rainbow goes to sea, does it grow up and become a Steelhead?
If an unclipped hatchery steelhead, is released does it morph into a wild steelhead?
LOL
No
Yes
Yes, provided it goes to sea
The key word with 3rd question is "wild"
LOL
Post by: Curly on June 14, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
Just for conversation,
If a Steelhead smolt, does not go to sea, is it still a Steelhead?
If a Rainbow goes to sea, does it grow up and become a Steelhead?
If an unclipped hatchery steelhead, is released does it morph into a wild steelhead?
LOL
I'd like to take a stab at this....
Yes
No
No
:twocents:
Post by: Stein on June 14, 2017, 11:27:36 AM
Quote
Wild Steelhead and Trout Wild - steelhead and trout have unclipped adipose and ventral fins.
Quote
Steelhead - A sea-run rainbow trout 20" in length and over
Post by: Fishstiq on June 14, 2017, 11:35:17 AM
That fish identifies as a carp... so it's fine. (Sarcasm)
Or, it could be a steelhead that identifies as a rainbow. Much, much more information is needed before we as a group jump to conclusions on perhaps how this multi-colored river dweller identifies himself.
Until the gill bearing aquatic creature can verbalize it's preferred pronoun, please refer to it as "fish self". Otherwise you are being ableist and phobic.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 14, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
:chuckle: What was I thinking.That fish identifies as a carp... so it's fine. (Sarcasm)
Or, it could be a steelhead that identifies as a rainbow. Much, much more information is needed before we as a group jump to conclusions on perhaps how this multi-colored river dweller identifies himself.
Until the gill bearing aquatic creature can verbalize it's preferred pronoun, please refer to it as "fish self". Otherwise you are being ableist and phobic.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on June 14, 2017, 01:09:46 PM
:chuckle: What was I thinking.That fish identifies as a carp... so it's fine. (Sarcasm)
Or, it could be a steelhead that identifies as a rainbow. Much, much more information is needed before we as a group jump to conclusions on perhaps how this multi-colored river dweller identifies himself.
Until the gill bearing aquatic creature can verbalize it's preferred pronoun, please refer to it as "fish self". Otherwise you are being ableist and phobic.
Beat me to it. Lol. Himself...
Post by: singleshot12 on June 14, 2017, 01:13:51 PM
Post by: Whitenuckles on June 14, 2017, 05:11:57 PM
Post by: plugger on June 15, 2017, 05:21:59 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 15, 2017, 05:34:49 AM
Post by: Antlershed on June 15, 2017, 05:41:53 AM
Regs are clear on the topic.So if I catch a 21" Rainbow in a river, how do I ask him if he's been out to sea?QuoteWild Steelhead and Trout Wild - steelhead and trout have unclipped adipose and ventral fins.QuoteSteelhead - A sea-run rainbow trout 20" in length and over
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 15, 2017, 05:58:43 AM
Post by: boneaddict on June 15, 2017, 06:19:44 AM
I think it's pretty funny the WDFW made a boneheaded move like this. I wonder if they're going to tell enforcement to lighten up on fin-clip violations - because if a guy can get an elk poaching case dropped over a poorly worded definition buried deep in the fine print, I imagine a judge would laugh the prosecutor right out of the courtroom when they ask His Honor to enforce a rule from a book whose cover image is in violation of that very rule.
BINGO!
Actually love the pic
Post by: C-Money on June 15, 2017, 06:49:07 AM
I think it's pretty funny the WDFW made a boneheaded move like this. I wonder if they're going to tell enforcement to lighten up on fin-clip violations - because if a guy can get an elk poaching case dropped over a poorly worded definition buried deep in the fine print, I imagine a judge would laugh the prosecutor right out of the courtroom when they ask His Honor to enforce a rule from a book whose cover image is in violation of that very rule.:yeah:
Post by: Huntin Hounds on June 15, 2017, 10:25:08 AM
Post by: KFhunter on June 15, 2017, 10:49:46 AM
If I caught that fish at that age I would have had a stick through its gills and been running up and down the bank showing it off to anyone that wanted to see it. Good thing i'm old and they didn't have bad rules when I was a kid, they would have looked me up. :IBCOOL:
LOL
aint that the truth!
Post by: Alchase on June 15, 2017, 04:17:52 PM
Until it goes to the ocean it is just a rainbow trout. You can call it a steelhead if you want but that fish is only about 15" long and most likely never went to the ocean.
So by the regs. it can't be a Steelhead,
even if it wanted to be.
:tup:
I always thought it was a scam of enormous proportions, that the state can leave a hatchery fish unclipped.
Then tell us, we can't catch it because "all unclipped fish are considered wild".
Now they want to stop the hatcheries all together because they somehow taint the wild steelhead, when they have been releasing unclipped hatchery fish for decades.