Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 17, 2017, 08:51:16 PM
Post by: slm9s on June 17, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 17, 2017, 09:25:19 PM
Chambering a barrel isn't rocket science. You would be surprised at some of the old school lathes that are used to win world class matches but nobody talks about.
Post by: Reidus on June 17, 2017, 10:12:31 PM
Buy one! Once you have purchased another custom and another custom and another custom. You will figure it out, components only add up to so much. The rest is to the smith, funny how some claim to be premier builders at 4000.00 for a rifle when Krieger, Hart, Lilja, Pac-Nor and Bartlien have been here way longer and their record of performance is proven and charge less.🙃:yeah:
Chambering a barrel isn't rocket science. You would be surprised at some of the old school lathes that are used to win world class matches but nobody talks about.
buy all the components you like and have a smith put 'em together.
Post by: slm9s on June 17, 2017, 10:59:25 PM
Buy one! Once you have purchased another custom and another custom and another custom. You will figure it out, components only add up to so much. The rest is to the smith, funny how some claim to be premier builders at 4000.00 for a rifle when Krieger, Hart, Lilja, Pac-Nor and Bartlien have been here way longer and their record of performance is proven and charge less.🙃:yeah:
Chambering a barrel isn't rocket science. You would be surprised at some of the old school lathes that are used to win world class matches but nobody talks about.
buy all the components you like and have a smith put 'em together.
That's something GAP does quite well...
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 17, 2017, 11:24:51 PM
Post by: yorketransport on June 18, 2017, 11:01:57 AM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F51B73735-9A46-4960-9CA8-82F3AA3A3516.jpg&hash=a44ccab3b40240630285f1abc6467893d6a9e18a) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/51B73735-9A46-4960-9CA8-82F3AA3A3516.jpg.html)
The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg&hash=7e60c864ebb323566ba7bac16a89ee16f2864ffe) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg.html)
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
Post by: b23 on June 18, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
There you go again with all that, spot on, reasonable talk. :tup:
Post by: yorketransport on June 18, 2017, 02:32:38 PM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
There you go again with all that, spot on, reasonable talk. :tup:
You're right, I must be off my game today. I normally condone more irrational and reckless spending! :chuckle:
Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 19, 2017, 05:45:20 PM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F51B73735-9A46-4960-9CA8-82F3AA3A3516.jpg&hash=a44ccab3b40240630285f1abc6467893d6a9e18a) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/51B73735-9A46-4960-9CA8-82F3AA3A3516.jpg.html)
The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg&hash=7e60c864ebb323566ba7bac16a89ee16f2864ffe) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg.html)
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
Ya I don't really think of my guns as tools. Almost like a connection with them lol. What about the action and bolt you get from GA? Wouldn't that be impossible to find elsewhere? I know almost nothing when it comes to starting a custom build as I've never had a custom gun. I would like a McMillan stock I think painted by a guy that did one of my other guns for me it turned out really freakin sweet. I just want something that's insanely accurate and I want to get into long range shooting for fun but also a gun to use for elk hunting.
Very nice guns btw Yorke. I really like that snipetec very good looking
Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 19, 2017, 05:46:58 PM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I already have all my out of state tags and I'm not really worried about sharing groups
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 19, 2017, 05:56:03 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 19, 2017, 06:02:55 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 19, 2017, 06:05:28 PM
Copy get one then, sure you won't be disappointed. Where ya goin this year? Later
Idaho Whitetail/Elk and Montana deer. Haven't made up my mind on the Montana tag if I'm going to keep it I might just buy a second Idaho deer tag and send it back in.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 19, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Just looked spendy buggers.
I know why does everything fun and nice have to be expensive AF
Post by: Taco280AI on June 19, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on June 19, 2017, 06:14:43 PM
Post by: Alchase on June 19, 2017, 06:25:18 PM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F51B73735-9A46-4960-9CA8-82F3AA3A3516.jpg&hash=a44ccab3b40240630285f1abc6467893d6a9e18a) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/51B73735-9A46-4960-9CA8-82F3AA3A3516.jpg.html)
The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg&hash=7e60c864ebb323566ba7bac16a89ee16f2864ffe) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg.html)
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
Would it be wrong to admit I get all warm inside every time I see these :dunno:
:chuckle:
Post by: yorketransport on June 19, 2017, 10:41:13 PM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
Ya I don't really think of my guns as tools. Almost like a connection with them lol. What about the action and bolt you get from GA? Wouldn't that be impossible to find elsewhere? I know almost nothing when it comes to starting a custom build as I've never had a custom gun. I would like a McMillan stock I think painted by a guy that did one of my other guns for me it turned out really freakin sweet. I just want something that's insanely accurate and I want to get into long range shooting for fun but also a gun to use for elk hunting.
Very nice guns btw Yorke. I really like that snipetec very good looking
There are a ton of great custom actions out there to build off of. If I were going to build a repeater I'd take a long look at the Mausingfield. What's not to love about a controlled feed action with a Rem 700 foot print and savage barrel threads?
Post by: Pnwrider on June 19, 2017, 11:42:53 PM
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Post by: rudysts on June 21, 2017, 08:39:49 AM
Bottom line if you are going to spend that kind of money on your first custom you may as well go to one of the best smith in the country. the wait will be worth it. another option is Ryan Pierce http://www.piercisionrifles.com/ he has built a rifle for me and it only took 6 weeks with all the parts in hand. for my next build I think I may consider Emil Kovan http://www.matchrifles.com/about.html
Good luck
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 02, 2017, 11:43:11 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 03, 2017, 12:14:33 AM
Bump... really been thinking hard on pulling the trigger lately. Anyone have experience with manners carbon stock vs McMillan hunters edge?Toss up. Manners will ship sample out to you, I went manners eh1 but could of gone mcmillan a3. Both great stocks.
Figure 9 mo lead time. Stocks are running 6 mo as are some barrels and a tions. Hydrodip is 6 weeks lead time. Add it all up = 9 mo.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 03, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
Bump... really been thinking hard on pulling the trigger lately. Anyone have experience with manners carbon stock vs McMillan hunters edge?Toss up. Manners will ship sample out to you, I went manners eh1 but could of gone mcmillan a3. Both great stocks.
Figure 9 mo lead time. Stocks are running 6 mo as are some barrels and a tions. Hydrodip is 6 weeks lead time. Add it all up = 9 mo.
Roger. What do you think about the hunters edge from McMillan? That a3 looks like it would be nice to shoot and so does the eh1.
Do you have a GAP magnumwillys?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 03, 2017, 05:35:18 AM
I like stocks with no drop at the top of buttplate so you can shoot prone and have a tall butt plate to soak up recoil. Hunters edge fits that. I like it . Be my choice for an all around stock. Would bump up to a 1" pad if shooting magnums.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 03, 2017, 10:23:00 AM
Dont have one . i think their actions are rebranded defiance ones - the best.
I like stocks with no drop at the top of buttplate so you can shoot prone and have a tall butt plate to soak up recoil. Hunters edge fits that. I like it . Be my choice for an all around stock. Would bump up to a 1" pad if shooting magnums.
What do you think about the rail options on an action? They have a screw on type on the Templar action but also one that is machined with it.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 03, 2017, 08:35:52 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 31, 2017, 08:09:12 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 31, 2017, 08:31:24 PM
Post by: mountainman on December 31, 2017, 08:40:32 PM
Well should be here in about 4 months at the earliest and 8 months at the latest :IBCOOL:awesome! You won't be disappointed!
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 31, 2017, 08:59:59 PM
Couldn't ask for a better new year!!!👍👍👍👍
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 31, 2017, 09:09:15 PM
GA is the PRIMIER rifle builder, with a non-disputable track record. You can't go wrong with a Non-Typical.
Hell... The the biggest, sell out, low budget salesmen for the so called "Other" primier rifle builder just took a extended vacation.
Lol who is the other premier builder? But thanks man I'm super stoked. Went with the Templar V2 hunter action, manners EH6A stock in molded elite swamp, Timney Calvin elite trigger 1.5 pounds, cerakoted black, 24 inch barrel 7mm Rem mag. Sounded good to me
I had a chance to handle the EH1, EH3, and EH6 and the EH6 felt the best in my hands with the palm swell and I wanted to option for the adjustable cheek.
I actually ordered in early November but was hesitant to post because people saying should have gone with this guy or this guy or overpriced blah blah but when I called around they were super competitive on pricing and I added all the parts up to buy myself and it wasn't to far off what they wanted!
Post by: Biggerhammer on December 31, 2017, 09:14:25 PM
GA is the PRIMIER rifle builder, with a non-disputable track record. You can't go wrong with a Non-Typical.
Hell... The the biggest, sell out, low budget salesmen for the so called "Other" primier rifle builder just took a extended vacation.
Lol who is the other premier builder? But thanks man I'm super stoked. Went with the Templar V2 hunter action, manners EH6A stock in molded elite swamp, Timney Calvin elite trigger 1.5 pounds, cerakoted black, 24 inch barrel 7mm Rem mag. Sounded good to me
I had a chance to handle the EH1, EH3, and EH6 and the EH6 felt the best in my hands with the palm swell and I wanted to option for the adjustable cheek.
I actually ordered in early November but was hesitant to post because people saying should have gone with this guy or this guy or overpriced blah blah but when I called around they were super competitive on pricing and I added all the parts up to buy myself and it wasn't to far off what they wanted!
Great stock. I prefer the lighter Jewell trigger and if your chambering in 7mm Mag on a custom rig. Why the 24"? 2-4" inches more on a barrel makes no difference in the set up, other than Performance.
Your already in a middle class weight rig, people over rate weight. 2-4" more inches on the barrel means what? The weight of change in your pocket? The weight of half or less of the 16oz water bottle you drank?
Guess it goes back to those who have been there and done that.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 31, 2017, 10:42:38 PM
GA is the PRIMIER rifle builder, with a non-disputable track record. You can't go wrong with a Non-Typical.
Hell... The the biggest, sell out, low budget salesmen for the so called "Other" primier rifle builder just took a extended vacation.
Lol who is the other premier builder? But thanks man I'm super stoked. Went with the Templar V2 hunter action, manners EH6A stock in molded elite swamp, Timney Calvin elite trigger 1.5 pounds, cerakoted black, 24 inch barrel 7mm Rem mag. Sounded good to me
I had a chance to handle the EH1, EH3, and EH6 and the EH6 felt the best in my hands with the palm swell and I wanted to option for the adjustable cheek.
I actually ordered in early November but was hesitant to post because people saying should have gone with this guy or this guy or overpriced blah blah but when I called around they were super competitive on pricing and I added all the parts up to buy myself and it wasn't to far off what they wanted!
Great stock. I prefer the lighter Jewell trigger and if your chambering in 7mm Mag on a custom rig. Why the 24"? 2-4" inches more on a barrel makes no difference in the set up, other than Performance.
Your already in a middle class weight rig, people over rate weight. 2-4" more inches on the barrel means what? The weight of change in your pocket? The weight of half or less of the 16oz water bottle you drank?
Guess it goes back to those who have been there and done that.
I can change the length of barrel still on the build that's kind of why I posted about it, I really don't like long barrels though so to me 24 inches was about as long as I would like but I might need to rethink it?
I went with the Timney CE because the guys at GA suggested for a pure hunting rig it's not as sensitive to dirt and failures as the jewel. My buddy has a jewel though and he's had zero problems but he mostly road hunts for health reasons.
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 01, 2018, 03:20:42 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 01, 2018, 03:33:12 AM
Your correct about the Jewell, having to keep them clean. As for barrel length, if you prefer a shorter barrel. Today's powder choices should cover you.
Roger! That Calvin elite is suppose to be bad ass. I love my Timney at 2.5 on my ruger and the guy at GA said he has the Calvin elite at 1.5 on his gun so I'm trusting them. If I don't like it I'll change it out to the jewel for sure. I've heard the shorter stiffer barrels are more accurate? Not sure if that would matter at 24 vs 26 inch barrel.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 01, 2018, 08:23:11 AM
You can always shorten it but you can't make it longer.........
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/09/7mm-remington-magnum-velocity-versus-barrel-length/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/09/7mm-remington-magnum-velocity-versus-barrel-length/)
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 01, 2018, 10:13:17 AM
I also like the manners stocks. I have a eh1 in swamp color and ordered another for my next build too.
:tup:
Any idea what bullets you will shoot?
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 03, 2018, 01:55:40 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 03, 2018, 02:05:07 PM
I’ve shot some tiny groups with my 28.5 inch barreled 300. It is always under 1/2 moa and often much smaller.
This pic is 5 rounds and a fouler. The one out of the group was a clean bore then the group. This is probably the smallest group I have shot and sue isn’t the norm but like I said with this set up I expect 1/2 moa when I line up and shoot at 100 and 200 yards
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 03, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 03, 2018, 02:52:25 PM
I like both the Berger bullets and eld x. In my experience they perform very similar on game
That's a nice group man. Hope my gun shoots like that. I like the accubonds but it just seems like the punch threw with my 308 and animals run pretty far. Maybe the 308 just doesn't have the knock down power of the bigger magnums
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 03, 2018, 02:56:40 PM
The Berger and eld x will shed a good bit more weight than the accubonds and dump more energy into the animal.
I’d be confident using any of the 3 to the ranges I hunt at
Post by: jackelope on January 03, 2018, 03:28:41 PM
I had bergers and accubonds to choose from and went with the AB's. I guess I like the weight retention thing and I didn't plan on shooting at extended ranges.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 16, 2018, 08:54:23 PM
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 16, 2018, 09:13:03 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 16, 2018, 09:57:51 PM
My 300 has a nxs 5.5-22 x50. I also own a mark4 6.5-20. Both great scopes
What reticle do you have on the NXS?
Post by: hogslayer on January 16, 2018, 10:05:28 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 12, 2018, 06:12:08 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 12, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
Missed this post lol no ago. My nxs has moar reticle.My 300 has a nxs 5.5-22 x50. I also own a mark4 6.5-20. Both great scopes
What reticle do you have on the NXS?
I actually swapped the mk4 onto the 300 and will put the nxs on my 6mm
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 12, 2018, 06:50:00 PM
Missed this post lol no ago. My nxs has moar reticle.My 300 has a nxs 5.5-22 x50. I also own a mark4 6.5-20. Both great scopes
What reticle do you have on the NXS?
I actually swapped the mk4 onto the 300 and will put the nxs on my 6mm
I ended up buying a Leopold VX6HD 4-24 with TMOA reticle. I love it so far when looking through it. Looked through the ATACR and VX6HD side by side and went VX6HD. Couldn’t tell a difference in glass but liked the lighter weight and reticle better. Plus illumination is bad ass
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 12, 2018, 06:59:11 PM
thats a scope I would give a hard look at if I was shopping right now. My nxs is illuminated but I’ve never actually used it or any other illumination in my scope.Missed this post lol no ago. My nxs has moar reticle.My 300 has a nxs 5.5-22 x50. I also own a mark4 6.5-20. Both great scopes
What reticle do you have on the NXS?
I actually swapped the mk4 onto the 300 and will put the nxs on my 6mm
I ended up buying a Leopold VX6HD 4-24 with TMOA reticle. I love it so far when looking through it. Looked through the ATACR and VX6HD side by side and went VX6HD. Couldn’t tell a difference in glass but liked the lighter weight and reticle better. Plus illumination is bad ass
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 12, 2018, 07:10:01 PM
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Post by: AdNewby on August 03, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
Save some scratch and do it yourself, buy some non res tags with the $$$ you save and go kill some stuff... no one cares what your groups your gun shoots via www..... at least I don't... killin is fun..
I seem to remember a thread a while back about this very concept. :chuckle:
I have and appreciate both the full custom jobs done by well known smiths as well as some hacksaw jobs done by local nobodies or myself on the floor of my garage. Whenever I can get away with it I try to avoid paying for aesthetics or a name and focus just on actual performance. I have Savages that I've assembled on the tailgate of my truck for less than $500 spent on parts that shot .25 MOA when a good barrel was used. I've also owned $4000 custom guns that couldn't crack the .25 MOA mark no matter how hard I tried.
If you think of the gun as just a tool to do a job then I don't know that I'd spend the money on a GA precision. But if you think of it as more than a tool I doubt you'd be disappointed with one. Here's my example:
284 Win Savage Stiker that I built for $750 including the McGowen barrel and the muzzle brake. This is a workhorse gun that gets beat up, shot in the rain and snow, thrown in my pack and rolled in the dirt. It's capable of shooting groups in the .5 MOA range out to around 1000 yards. It's not fancy, I spray painted the stock to cover up some sanding that I did on it, and it's all scratched and nicked up from getting abuse over the last couple of years.
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The 338 SnipeTac pistol cost a bit over $4000 in total cost of parts and labor to have Alex Wheeler build the gun and Joel Russo make the bubinga stock for it. This gun is more than just a tool that gets used and abused, it's a display of skilled craftsmanship and attention to detail.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi162.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft260%2Fcollegekidandy%2F3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg&hash=7e60c864ebb323566ba7bac16a89ee16f2864ffe) (http://s162.photobucket.com/user/collegekidandy/media/3CC9361B-F2F0-45B1-85A2-A830B8A1D44D.jpg.html)
Both serve a very different purpose and I see the high dollar semi customs like a GA Precision as more of a display of skill than offering any practical advantage. You could probably buy a rifle that would perform just as well for 30% of the cost but sometimes that's not the goal. I have to say though, if I could have found a way to slap together a 338 SnipeTac pistol in my garage for $1000 I'd have been all over that!
I Admire these rifles! And I'm addicted on optics. It's the main passion in hunting for me. It's pretty weird but I have so much pleasure when I'm testing a new toy.
A few month ago I find great thermal rifle scope ATN THOR 4 384 1.25-5X there https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd (https://www.atncorp.com/thermal-scope-thor-hd). It makes possible to record dual stream video and scope's thermal sensor lets you view and record at never before seen high resolution.
Is anybody used this site to make a purchas? They offer good prices and I like their conditions. But I didn't decide till now
Post by: Fred Lee on August 05, 2018, 01:09:50 PM
Right now you can get a really good deal on a non hd leupold vx6. I have this scope and a Swarovski x5. Both in 3-18-50. The vx6 in tmoa reticle is really nice. It’s got a .2 noa hole in the middle so you can see that tiny little dot when doing load work up. And it’s about 10 ounces lighter than the nxs. For hunting I don’t see needing anything bigger than a 18 power scope at 50 mm bell.Did you used your leupold with another scope? Does it work?