Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 30, 2017, 10:39:48 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on June 30, 2017, 10:53:10 PM
Seeking a trail report from the past 2 years for the Melton, Crooked Creek/Third Creek/Trout Creek trails. Anyone? Bueller?
What information would you want from 2 years ago
Post by: Hooked On Chrome Guide Service on July 01, 2017, 02:51:26 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 01, 2017, 04:26:21 AM
Post by: skeeter 20i on July 01, 2017, 07:03:36 AM
WOW ! Tough crowd. :dunno:
:yeah:
Post by: Timberstalker on July 01, 2017, 07:21:55 AM
How about you just lace up those boots and get after it. Is some report a guy gives you on here really going to dictate weather you hike in or not. The amount of time your going to waste looking on here to find out what someone says. You could of looked up an accurate and recent trail report. If your that worried about the unit that you need a trail report maybe you shouldn't be wasting time in it. Sack up and get after it
Great attitude from a guide. :tup:
Post by: Badhabit on July 01, 2017, 09:24:29 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 01, 2017, 09:44:15 AM
Posted at 2:51AM. Must have been up getting the gear in the boat for another glorious day on the river.
Probably Jack talking.
Post by: Pegasus on July 01, 2017, 11:36:56 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on July 01, 2017, 11:38:43 AM
Post by: Pegasus on July 01, 2017, 11:51:27 AM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on July 01, 2017, 12:13:00 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 01, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
Back to my original question. What information from 2 years ago would be useful I don't understand
I asked for 2 years because those trails don't get a lot of use, so information that is 2 years old may be stale, but might also help me. A trail report could possibly tell me how many trees are on the trail that have not been cut out or tread condition. I'm considering running the trails and the number of trees on the trail can significantly alter the run time.
I didn't realise that asking a simple question could be so offensive. Or that what I want to do or how I do it could get someone else's panties all knotted up.
Post by: Pegasus on July 01, 2017, 03:16:08 PM
Post by: BlackRiverTaxidermy on July 01, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
While I agree with most that your best bet is putting your boots to the ground for the best information, I did spend some time there several weeks ago. Your asking about quite a huge area if you wanting repots on all those trails tho. I hiked in from Three Forks trailhead to the bottom and cross-country hiked from there. When you get from the bottom you can either cross the creek up and over Packer Creek which is in good shape. Crooked creek bridge/crossing is completely gone not far past the Packer Creek turnoff. The trail in the bottom peters out completely just past the Forest Service cabin at the beginning of First Creek. It appears like you could cross the creek, however Im not sure if there is a trail on the other side.
Best of luck, but again, your best bet is to check them out for yourself and I don't mean that offensively...I mean they change quickly and with the burn spots in A LOT of that area the trees your concerned about "being in the trail" could be a reality at any time.
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 01, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
I've never read a report on this site of anyone hunting the bottom of Crooked Creek or up Third. Trail reports in the Wenaha are hard to come by since its one of the least used wildernesses and is very lightly used by non-hunters.
Dave Waldron has given me good trail reports in the past, but part of the route is outside of his area.
Post by: nwhunter on July 01, 2017, 05:18:15 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 01, 2017, 06:21:09 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on July 01, 2017, 06:40:00 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 01, 2017, 07:39:59 PM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on July 03, 2017, 06:04:54 AM
Guy has probably seen more of the unit then many of you resident "experts."
But instead of maybe helping him avoid a 7 hour wasted drive around through Oregon or just keeping your thoughts to yourself, you need to high and mighty it.
I'm not immune to being an a$$ at times myself, but this isn't a 1st time poster asking for spots, he asked for trail conditions for potentially a 20+ mile loop...
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Post by: Timberstalker on July 03, 2017, 06:40:18 AM
Guys on here telling Shawn to put more boots on the ground...
Guy has probably seen more of the unit then many of you resident "experts."
But instead of maybe helping him avoid a 7 hour wasted drive around through Oregon or just keeping your thoughts to yourself, you need to high and mighty it.
I'm not immune to being an a$$ at times myself, but this isn't a 1st time poster asking for spots, he asked for trail conditions for potentially a 20+ mile loop...
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Exactly! He's posted plenty of times, documenting his times over in the areas.
Post by: jackelope on July 03, 2017, 07:14:44 AM
How about you just lace up those boots and get after it. Is some report a guy gives you on here really going to dictate weather you hike in or not. The amount of time your going to waste looking on here to find out what someone says. You could of looked up an accurate and recent trail report. If your that worried about the unit that you need a trail report maybe you shouldn't be wasting time in it. Sack up and get after it
Well now I know who I'm not going fishing with.
And I'lll just add to this by saying that based on his posts, I don't think Shawn Ryan needs any advice on sacking up and getting after it.
Post by: theleo on July 03, 2017, 07:23:46 AM
Post by: jackelope on July 03, 2017, 07:30:24 AM
Not too many people on here spend as much time as he does in the Wenaha. And they do their share of trail work in there as well.
:twocents:
Post by: mtncook on July 03, 2017, 07:59:14 AM
Trail crew has been in the lower reaches this spring. Making the trail "Safe to Travel" but not to "Standards".
mtncook
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 03, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on July 03, 2017, 05:45:06 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on July 11, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 17, 2017, 11:58:21 PM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on July 31, 2017, 03:03:56 PM
Crooked Creek to Third Creek was mostly knee-high brush covering the trail. Difficult or impossible to see the trail tread so running was very sporadic and minimal. All the blow-down was cut out, but the trail crews apparently didn't do any brush work.
Third Creek/Trout Creek had 7+ miles of heavy brush: thigh to head high. Almost no running. Just busting brush. Dave may be the only guy on that trail all year! The last few miles to Dunlop was good and open.
Misery trail back to Diamond Peak was its usual: completely open and hot!
50k total. 12 hours. Real slow for running. But given about 10 miles of significant brush on the trail, 5,000' of elevation gain, and the last 7 miles or so at 6,000' and 80 degrees, an old man like me can be satisfied.
Post by: Timberstalker on July 31, 2017, 03:17:09 PM
I was in the blues Sunday, and it was hot! I didn't run 32~ miles though. :chuckle:
Post by: Pegasus on August 01, 2017, 06:53:25 AM
Post by: nwhunter on August 01, 2017, 07:18:13 AM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on August 01, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Nice run. I am curious how you reached max speed of 25.8 MPH? Trained with Usain Bolt?
Headed for Olympic gold, right! I think of all the GPS functions, that parameter can most easily be off. (Though the Maximum Altitude is lower than the Current Altitude, which makes no sense, either.) It's a measurement taken over a very short time frame, as opposed to most of the other measurements. Though, maybe it captured those moments when I was free-falling down the cliffside...
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on August 01, 2017, 12:19:48 PM
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on August 02, 2017, 04:24:40 PM
Now that's a run no matter what your age is, and in some very tough country to boot. I always wonder how some of these keyboard Cam Haines would fair in real mountain conditions.
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on August 02, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
Now that's a run no matter what your age is, and in some very tough country to boot. I always wonder how some of these keyboard Cam Haines would fair in real mountain conditions.
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That entire unit is all downhill!