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Title: What flies would you buy?
Post by: daveenlola on February 25, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
I'm a new fly fisher and need to buy some flies that will work in diffrent places, would you buy a "western selection" or just some flys? What flys are my best bet?
I have a reddington crosswater 9' 5/6w, hook size?

Any help would be awsome
Thanks
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: billythekidrock on February 25, 2009, 06:19:17 PM
Joe's Hopper, Muddler Minnow for starters.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Red Dawg on February 25, 2009, 06:22:05 PM
buy prince nymphs. they work in every stream that I have ever fished in the northwest. On several different species of trout. Also wooly buggers and stimulators.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: daveenlola on February 25, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
sweet thanks guys, what sizes should I get?
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: walt on February 25, 2009, 06:56:05 PM
It will really depend on when and where will you be fishing mostly?  What kind of fish will you be targeting?  Wet or dry flies?  Lakes or rivers and streams?  Every place you fish will have different bugs on and in the water depending on time of year.  Lots of flies will work in lots of places but if you can give a little more info I'm sure we can help out more.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: boneaddict on February 25, 2009, 06:58:57 PM
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Prince Nymph  All purpose fly for River use and lakes.  I've caught tons of fish at Chopaka, Wannacut and another private lake, including several 9-12 pound Triploids.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: EastWaViking on February 25, 2009, 07:02:39 PM
deer hair caddis is my favorite trout fly.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: boneaddict on February 25, 2009, 07:04:53 PM
Yep, an all purpose fly.  Check out this thread...
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: boneaddict on February 25, 2009, 07:05:26 PM
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Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on February 25, 2009, 07:08:51 PM
You need to decide whether you like wet or dry fly fishing.  I prefer dry fly fishing so I have a huge selection of those.  Get a cheap vise and start making your own, it's fun. 

I wouldn't go out without wolly worms, wolly buggers, muddler minnows, caddis, royal coachman, humpy, mosquito, chironomid, etc.  I tend to use smaller sized flies.  I like my dry flies about size 14-18.  I do use quite a few tiny 18-24 midge imitations as well.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: huntnphool on February 25, 2009, 07:09:38 PM
PM sent Dave
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: walt on February 25, 2009, 07:12:36 PM
Nice prince bone.  daveenlola it gets addicting.  Trout, then bass, then steelhead, carp, pike...  Here is what I have been working on lately.  I still need to paint the eyes.  Look out pike!
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Curly on February 25, 2009, 07:13:18 PM
Most of the trout that I've caught on flies in Western Washington lakes have come on Chronomid patterns.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Red Dawg on February 25, 2009, 07:16:04 PM
Yes, you need to buy some dry flies as well as nymphs and figure out witch one suits you best. I like to nymph for everything but dry fishing is also very effective at times. The best thing you can do is learn how to build them your self, they get very expensive if you are fishing all of the time. Before you know it you will forget about trout and you will only want to catch sea runs on your flyrod.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2009, 07:52:01 PM
how much do you want to spend?? this discussion could go on for hours.

if i was buying flies and i could have 1 reasonably sized box full of them for trout, be it rivers or lakes.....

dry-
elk hair caddis with a black body size 14
stimulators with a yellow body size 6
parachute adams size 14
madame x size 6

streamers-
olive wooly boogers size 6
some olive or brown sculpin type weighted streamers with eyes...big...size 2-4 maybe.

nymph-i'd go heavy on the nymphs
prince...size 12-14, tungsten bead head
tungsten bead head flashbacks, same size
black kaufman stonefly size 4-6, again beadhead.
chironomids work really really well in the right place at the right time...but in my opinion are incredibly boring to fish correctly.

i'd also have some strike indicators if i was new to the sport...gear fishermen call them bobbers...the fluffy yarn ones.

i would run strictly 5x leaders with 5x or 6x tippet...and i would have 9' and 12' leaders....about 18-20" of tippet. once you get good at fighting and landing fish go to  6x for most of the river fishing and all of the lake fishing until you end up fishing for the zombie triploids.

you could fish pretty much anywhere at any time with those flies, leaders, tippet, and indicators and have a reasonable chance at catching fish. i'd also have some fly floatant....gehrke's gink is good stuff.

i also make a habit of stopping at local fly shops...ask them what was working yesterday and buy a couple flies here and a couple there...before you know it, you have 15 fly boxes full of flies...
oops.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: daveenlola on February 25, 2009, 08:02:55 PM
And another question...I heard i can fish snoqualmie river above the falls year round?? The regs dont say that but i keep hearing diffrent.
 Where else can i get a trout on a fly right now without going over the pass?
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2009, 08:07:02 PM
you can fish the south fork along I-90 up below the pass year round. tough fishing for trout in rivers in winter though. the main stem snoqualmie is puking mud and real high...i would assume the forks are too. once the middle fork opens, that is good fishing.
do you have a little boat? or float tube or something? beaver lake in issaquah should be fishing ok right now, but it is not fishable from the bank...there's also a lake on whidbey island that is open year round...lone lake.
rivers won't be open till june 1 mostly.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: daveenlola on February 25, 2009, 08:12:26 PM
Yea I do have a little boat, Is beaver up on the plateau? Does trolling a fly work pretty good? I imagine you would just need to frift with the wind?
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2009, 08:23:15 PM
yes up on the plateau.

i would row or troll with an electric motor slowly and troll a weighted olive wooly bugger SLOW. they recently planted with a lot of bigger than average fish.
the launch is on the far side of the lake across from the state park.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: walt on February 25, 2009, 08:29:26 PM
Trolling and drifting can both work well.  I like to troll leaches on a sinking line, and drift woolly buggers and damsels on a floater.  Add small split shot to the leader to get the fly to different depths.  The fish will tend to hang out at a certain depth within the water column depending on water temperature.  Also give the flyline a little tug here and there to give the fly action as you go.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 25, 2009, 08:31:25 PM
When I was younger I used to just go through fly tying books and tie two or three of anything.  I also know that I still have a lot of those things in my vest, and they have never been used.  Now-a-days I do 90% of my stream/river fishing with 4 flies:
1.  Elk Hair Caddis
2.  Adams
3.  Parachute Adams
4.  Bead Head Hares Ear Nymph
5.  Bean Head Pheasant Tail Nymph
6.  Wooly Bugger

For lakes I usually use the same, except I would add a fair assortment of Chronomids.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: RightPlace-RightTime on February 25, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
wooly bugger
prince
elk caddis

all good for trout, lake and river

Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: tlbradford on February 25, 2009, 10:02:07 PM
When I was younger I used to just go through fly tying books and tie two or three of anything.  I also know that I still have a lot of those things in my vest, and they have never been used.  Now-a-days I do 90% of my stream/river fishing with 4 flies:
1.  Elk Hair Caddis
2.  Adams
3.  Parachute Adams
4.  Bead Head Hares Ear Nymph
5.  Bean Head Pheasant Tail Nymph
6.  Wooly Bugger

For lakes I usually use the same, except I would add a fair assortment of Chronomids.

 :yeah:  Except my pattern list is a little different.  If you are a big trout fisherman a little travel tying kit works like magic when you are trying to match a hatch. 
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on February 26, 2009, 05:41:11 PM
When I was younger I used to just go through fly tying books and tie two or three of anything.  I also know that I still have a lot of those things in my vest, and they have never been used.  Now-a-days I do 90% of my stream/river fishing with 4 flies:
1.  Elk Hair Caddis
2.  Adams
3.  Parachute Adams
4.  Bead Head Hares Ear Nymph
5.  Bean Head Pheasant Tail Nymph
6.  Wooly Bugger

For lakes I usually use the same, except I would add a fair assortment of Chronomids.

Wow.  I just went back and read what I wrote last night (with a severe head cold and a good dose of nyquil).  I said 4 flies, but then listed six.  Nyquil's mean %E##$.  I should stick to whiskey.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Intruder on March 02, 2009, 03:22:29 PM
Some good info already posted.  Suggest adding some Wulff's to you aresenal too and maybe some foam bodied flies.  You need these when fishing faster water.  Get a handful of the basics that folks have suggested and really concentrate on presentation cuz that's about 80% of it.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: ribka on March 02, 2009, 10:38:37 PM
My go to flies are soft hackles, egg patterns and small leech patterns. Great for rivers and lakes
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: Da stump on March 03, 2009, 10:30:06 AM
 :) Hi, You might consider getting another spool or two for your reel and adding some weighted line. When fishing places like chopaka in the summer it helps. Definatly need to add a few stone flies to the assortment. They can really be great on some of the rivers. Another great fly fishing aspect is Salt water.  I love catching black bass out of Neah Bay on a fly rod.
Title: Re: What flies would you buy?
Post by: daveenlola on March 04, 2009, 05:52:14 PM
I love fishing neah bay, be nice to bring in a big ling on a 5wt
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