Post by: JasonG on July 19, 2017, 10:41:25 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 19, 2017, 10:44:50 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 19, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Post by: Cab on July 19, 2017, 11:05:27 AM
Compound out to 40yards 1-2in group
Recurve out to 25 yards 2-3in group (softball size or less)
Deer:
Max distance using a compound is 40 yards if everything is ideal but I like them under 35yards in general
Max distance using a recurve is 25 yards prefer them to be around 20 or less
Elk:
Max distance with compound is 40 yards
Max Distance with a recurve 30 but prefer them to be 25 or less.
I can group well out to 50-55 with my compound and have shot ok out to 35 with my recurve but I prefer to keep things closer knowing that I'm going to be excited and conditions are rarely as perfect as when I'm at the range.
When you're new to bow hunting I would try to keep shots under 30 knowing that there will be a lot of nerves/excitement to deal with. Try doing some quick sprints then shooting, it will show you how effective you are with your heart pumping. To me guys that kill animals under 20 yards are far more impressive then guys killing animals out past 50. That's my :twocents:
Post by: kselkhunter on July 19, 2017, 11:09:27 AM
For me I shoot both compound and recurve so these are my guidelines:
Compound out to 40yards 1-2in group
Recurve out to 25 yards 2-3in group (softball size or less)
Deer:
Max distance using a compound is 40 yards if everything is ideal but I like them under 35yards in general
Max distance using a recurve is 25 yards prefer them to be around 20 or less
Elk:
Max distance with compound is 40 yards
Max Distance with a recurve 30 but prefer them to be 25 or less.
I can group well out to 50-55 with my compound and have shot ok out to 35 with my recurve but I prefer to keep things closer knowing that I'm going to be excited and conditions are really as perfect as when I'm at the range.
When you're new to bow hunting I would try to keep shots under 30 knowing that there will be a lot of nerves/excitement to deal with. Try doing some quick sprints then shooting, it will show you how effective you are with your heart pumping. To me guys that kill animals under 20 yards are far more impressive then guys killing animals out past 50. That's my :twocents:
:yeah:
Great advice.
Post by: JDHasty on July 19, 2017, 06:33:05 PM
For me I shoot both compound and recurve so these are my guidelines:
Compound out to 40yards 1-2in group
Recurve out to 25 yards 2-3in group (softball size or less)
Deer:
Max distance using a compound is 40 yards if everything is ideal but I like them under 35yards in general
Max distance using a recurve is 25 yards prefer them to be around 20 or less
Elk:
Max distance with compound is 40 yards
Max Distance with a recurve 30 but prefer them to be 25 or less.
I can group well out to 50-55 with my compound and have shot ok out to 35 with my recurve but I prefer to keep things closer knowing that I'm going to be excited and conditions are really as perfect as when I'm at the range.
When you're new to bow hunting I would try to keep shots under 30 knowing that there will be a lot of nerves/excitement to deal with. Try doing some quick sprints then shooting, it will show you how effective you are with your heart pumping. To me guys that kill animals under 20 yards are far more impressive then guys killing animals out past 50. That's my :twocents:
:yeah:
Great advice.
I thought so too
Post by: JasonG on July 19, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
I will take that to heart. Thank youFor me I shoot both compound and recurve so these are my guidelines:
Compound out to 40yards 1-2in group
Recurve out to 25 yards 2-3in group (softball size or less)
Deer:
Max distance using a compound is 40 yards if everything is ideal but I like them under 35yards in general
Max distance using a recurve is 25 yards prefer them to be around 20 or less
Elk:
Max distance with compound is 40 yards
Max Distance with a recurve 30 but prefer them to be 25 or less.
I can group well out to 50-55 with my compound and have shot ok out to 35 with my recurve but I prefer to keep things closer knowing that I'm going to be excited and conditions are really as perfect as when I'm at the range.
When you're new to bow hunting I would try to keep shots under 30 knowing that there will be a lot of nerves/excitement to deal with. Try doing some quick sprints then shooting, it will show you how effective you are with your heart pumping. To me guys that kill animals under 20 yards are far more impressive then guys killing animals out past 50. That's my :twocents:
:yeah:
Great advice.
I thought so too
Post by: coachcw on July 19, 2017, 08:35:44 PM
Post by: Cab on July 20, 2017, 08:39:07 AM
Every guy is different if you can hit a softball with three shots consistently I'd say that's you effective range . A relaxed animal is very different from alerted for sure. One mistake I often see is guys aim to close to the shoulder hold back three or four inches back that way three inches left or right still hit vitals.
Yup! Shot placement is key, I reccomend Steven Rinellas book "complete guide to hunting, butchering and cooking big game" It has a whole section showing you the proper shot placement based on the angle of the animal and their biology. It covers every weapon and how to use, tune, and dial in that weapon to be affective. Best $17 you can buy if you are new to hunting.
Post by: branches on July 20, 2017, 06:32:53 PM
Post by: JasonG on July 20, 2017, 06:37:28 PM
Its a awesome book bought it a few months ago!Every guy is different if you can hit a softball with three shots consistently I'd say that's you effective range . A relaxed animal is very different from alerted for sure. One mistake I often see is guys aim to close to the shoulder hold back three or four inches back that way three inches left or right still hit vitals.
Yup! Shot placement is key, I reccomend Steven Rinellas book "complete guide to hunting, butchering and cooking big game" It has a whole section showing you the proper shot placement based on the angle of the animal and their biology. It covers every weapon and how to use, tune, and dial in that weapon to be affective. Best $17 you can buy if you are new to hunting.
Post by: Fullabull on July 20, 2017, 09:12:53 PM
Post by: elkboy on July 22, 2017, 10:07:36 PM
I personally think that consistent six inch groups at a given distance are a reasonable guide to effective range on big game animals. Best of luck to you!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 22, 2017, 10:13:06 PM
It may sound strange but I know I'm ready when I'm shooting with conference. You know when you are and when your not.We know what you mean ! But more guys is always better. Hehe
Post by: PolarBear on July 22, 2017, 10:17:00 PM
When I can only shoot one arrow at a time at a spot on the target at 30 yards without the fear of robinhooding another expensive arrow.:yeah:
Or 2" groups at 60
Post by: PolarBear on July 22, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 22, 2017, 10:26:28 PM
Waiting for the " If I can get 3 shots on a paper plate at201000 yards I'm good too go" post. :chuckle:
Done !
Post by: PolarBear on July 22, 2017, 10:32:08 PM
Post by: JDHasty on July 24, 2017, 02:50:46 PM
Waiting for the " If I can get 3 shots on a paper plate at 20 yards I'm good too go" post. :chuckle:
I used to know a guy who said exactly that. I don't think he ever took a shot past twenty yards, hunted from a self climbing stand and he killed a lot of elk.
Post by: throttlejocky20 on July 25, 2017, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: bracer40 on July 25, 2017, 10:41:21 PM
Know your limits. Just because you can shoot a distance at the range does not mean you can do it at an animal in a hunting situation. I shoot out to 80+ yards consistently but i wouldnt take that shot on an animal. Just keep in mind when archery hunting sometimes the best shot is taking no shot at all.Yeah, I learned that painful lesson a few years ago. Was a real motivator to improve my skills
Post by: Seahawk12 on July 25, 2017, 11:16:19 PM
I take 30-50 shots a day.
My practice block has 5 targets on it and my quiver holds 5 arrows. Easy math.
I believe in the 6" pie plate rule. That keeps your shots within 3" of bullseye.
I am most concerned with one shot in particular each day. The first shot. That is the one that will count on the hunt. The rest are just for building/ maintaining strength and form.
Good luck this year.
Post by: JDHasty on July 26, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
I don't actually group my arrows. Those things are expensive.
I take 30-50 shots a day.
My practice block has 5 targets on it and my quiver holds 5 arrows. Easy math.
I believe in the 6" pie plate rule. That keeps your shots within 3" of bullseye.
I am most concerned with one shot in particular each day. The first shot. That is the one that will count on the hunt. The rest are just for building/ maintaining strength and form.
Good luck this year.
I have 2413 XX75s that have dents all over them, I used to shoot my arrows into groups of a dozen or so thirty years ago when I was shooting XX75s and I had my practice arrows and my hunting arrows. The aluminum arrows had a taper that the nock glued onto and I had to replace nocks all the time, but only Robin Hooded them about once a week. The carbon arrows are another matter altogether. It seems that I cannot shoot five at the same bullseye w/o losing a couple arrows every time.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 26, 2017, 10:17:46 AM
Not really liking to shoot for groups, like others have mentioned. I still use aluminum 31" 2219s and trying to find any replacements is a real challenge in itself.
Post by: highside74 on July 26, 2017, 10:37:38 AM
Post by: Stalkin Prey on July 26, 2017, 03:25:38 PM
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Post by: Hot Lunch on July 28, 2017, 06:56:12 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on July 28, 2017, 07:15:24 PM
I've heard Aron Snydor talk in depth about this. Some guys can shoot targets and not animals, some guys can shoot animals and not targets. I subscribe to the 1st shot of the day theory, when that's going good every day for a week I'm ready. I usually practice my cold barrel shot at 50 yards.
Nate Simmons talks about this all the time on Western Hunter.
Post by: JDHasty on July 30, 2017, 06:49:38 PM
I've heard Aron Snydor talk in depth about this. Some guys can shoot targets and not animals, some guys can shoot animals and not targets. I subscribe to the 1st shot of the day theory, when that's going good every day for a week I'm ready. I usually practice my cold barrel shot at 50 yards.
Ha!
I was an AA class trap shooter and heard that too. Most trap shooters have heard it. It is garbage. The difference is that wile they claim to "not shoot that well on targets, never miss on birds," there isn't an impartial score keeper keeping track.
I have been in the field with the best, guys who shot international on the US Air Force team, and when shooting flushed covey birds ave seen triple after triple and it wasn't much even talked about. You shoot in the field next an AA class shooter and you are going to get schooled. Most of the talk was about the quality of the dogs.
When I was shooting a thousand targets a week I would shoot triples on rising covey birds and it was so fast that I never remembered pulling the trigger. Once you are shooting at that level pointing a gun is like pointing your finger at something. Your muscle memory is tuned to a razor's edge and your eye hand coordination is crazy good and your reflexes are fast. That is how it is with other shooting disciplines, particularly archery.
I have been in the field with all else from novices to those who: Don't shoot targets well, but never miss in the field and if a guy scored a single triple it was all he talked about for weeks on end.
Post by: AKBowman on August 01, 2017, 08:01:36 PM
I max myself out at 50 on an animal. Even an elk with a HUGE kill zone. Never shot at a deer over 30 but I deer hunt almost exclusively from stands. I have a 60 pin just for the necessity of a second arrow.
Post by: grundy53 on August 01, 2017, 08:34:10 PM
I'll take Aron Snyder's word for it when it comes to archery.I've heard Aron Snydor talk in depth about this. Some guys can shoot targets and not animals, some guys can shoot animals and not targets. I subscribe to the 1st shot of the day theory, when that's going good every day for a week I'm ready. I usually practice my cold barrel shot at 50 yards.
Ha!
I was an AA class trap shooter and heard that too. Most trap shooters have heard it. It is garbage. The difference is that wile they claim to "not shoot that well on targets, never miss on birds," there isn't an impartial score keeper keeping track.
I have been in the field with the best, guys who shot international on the US Air Force team, and when shooting flushed covey birds ave seen triple after triple and it wasn't much even talked about. You shoot in the field next an AA class shooter and you are going to get schooled. Most of the talk was about the quality of the dogs.
When I was shooting a thousand targets a week I would shoot triples on rising covey birds and it was so fast that I never remembered pulling the trigger. Once you are shooting at that level pointing a gun is like pointing your finger at something. Your muscle memory is tuned to a razor's edge and your eye hand coordination is crazy good and your reflexes are fast. That is how it is with other shooting disciplines, particularly archery.
I have been in the field with all else from novices to those who: Don't shoot targets well, but never miss in the field and if a guy scored a single triple it was all he talked about for weeks on end.
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Post by: The scout on August 01, 2017, 08:48:56 PM
Post by: JDHasty on August 01, 2017, 09:06:37 PM
:yeah: to me shooting at a covey of birds and shooting at a elk screaming in your face that you have been calling in for a half an hour is two very different things
Whatever.
Post by: bracer40 on August 01, 2017, 09:38:12 PM
:yeah: to me shooting at a covey of birds and shooting at a elk screaming in your face that you have been calling in for a half an hour is two very different things
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