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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: WapitiTalk1 on July 28, 2017, 06:38:25 PM
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OK, on this day of the build up to the 2017 elk hunting season, what do you feel your max effective range with stick, string, and broad head is on a big stinky elk "if" season started tomorrow? I know most of you archery elk hunters are shooting your bows at this point so again, if season started tomorrow.... what would be your max distance be that you'd confidently zip a broad head at an elk and be confident it would hit where it needs to hit?
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I'll shoot to 80, if he stands and the conditions are good.
All the naysayers can fire away.
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I think with today's bows and equipment the serious bow hunter with good eyes is easily shooting at 80 on elk. Not me mind you... :tup:
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I'll go 65 with all the confidence in the world. Where I hunt will end up being 40 max though.
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I have a seven pin, practice at all ranges with different body positions and with a weighted pack. If it's under 80 and conditions are right I will take the shot. If conditions suck I'm cutting that in half or less. And if I get the opportunity for a second arrow to anchor a bull it's flying without a second guess. Two arrows in the boiler room always helps the tracking job.
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25 yds. Recurve with heavy arrows.
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Lots of guys can shoot 100, Tim Gillingham stretches it out to 120. For me 40 is where I like to be but will shoot 60 if conditions are perfect and animal is cooperating. There is something to be said for getting close, the most hardcore public land killers I know are better stalkers than shooters and get 20-40 yards from trophy animals consistently.
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40..maybe 50..
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Today 70.
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40..maybe 50..
50 if things are perfect. 35-40 if not.
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In a blind I set up for 30 yrds. Last two deer were shot at around 12 yrds while still hunting.
People screw up a lot on shots that should be cake.
If you can hit the 10 ring every time at 3d shoots then that's a good range. I see a lot of 5's at 30 yrds and beyond tells me a lot of bowhunters aren't that great.
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I really like when they are within 10yrds. Draw and shoot. Never look at the sights.
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Today, I'm thinking 45
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2 days ago I would have said 20yrds. Now that I had bow tweaked a bit I am looking 40yrds for me given my current ability. The gear will kill well beyond that, but not with me tripping the release.
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Probably couldn't pull my bow back if I tried right now.... :(
Historically, it has been 50 yards.
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60 yards
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40 yards. I've shot the bow consistently past that but I still have to calm myself down when I see a legal animal. I trust the equipment I don't trust me lol
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35 yards for me and my recurve.
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50 yds and under, I will be shooting. I practice to 70 plenty just won't push it that far when its for real.
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Currently 0 thanks to surgery but out to 80 next year with lost of practice once I pull the bow back
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40 factoring in for a natural tremor amplified by the moment. Practicing to 50.
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50 all day
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I feel confident out to 60.
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It's more fun and satisfying for me to hit them under 20 yards. Getting close is the fun part.
I'd shoot out to 40 or 50 though.
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I say shoot what you think your limitations are. And I hope you put in the effort searching for the animal when your shot goes south. At least your not asking about using an AR.
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Id feel good all day at 50 at the moment, but I've never had to shoot over 20 yards.. Although I've never shot an elk... But dang have I been close! How can one be 3 yrds from an elk and still have no shot??!!? Just ask me! It's happened more than once! Ha.. All the other critters I've shot with my bow have all be under 20 though.
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70 as of today. Drilling my target even when fatigued a little with Shuttle T.
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I practice to 80 but in the real world of the hunting woods my effective range is half due to excitement, awkward shooting position, extra hunting clothes etc etc . It is amazing to hear these ranges listed now and how many guys after season will say " I can't believe I missed my elk at 30 yards ! "
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To find your maximum hunting range, find your maximum target range and subtract about 20-25
yards, that is your realistic maximum hunting range under hunting conditions.
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I practice to 80 but in the real world of the hunting woods my effective range is half due to excitement, awkward shooting position, extra hunting clothes etc etc . It is amazing to hear these ranges listed now and how many guys after season will say " I can't believe I missed my elk at 30 yards ! "
To find your maximum hunting range, find your maximum target range and subtract about 20-25
yards, that is your realistic maximum hunting range under hunting conditions.
what a load of b.s.---if you are not practicing shooting your bow under "hunting" conditions you are setting yourself up for failure...why would you just stand at a range and shoot your bow once its sighted in for that distance without kneeling, sitting, canting your bow left or right to see where it will hit under actual shooting conditions ? obviously during the hunt you will have different circumstances that dictate your shooting position..but to just say that i can hit a target standing at 50 yards i should only shoot an animal at 25 yards due to "hunting conditions" is crazy...take the time to shoot at different angles and shooting positions...yes i have missed a shot at a deer at 40 yards due to the string striking my coat sleeve--but i've never worn that coat again bowhunting . with todays modern bows if you practice with what you are to be hunting with there shouldn't be an issue with taking 50+ yard shots..as long as you can consistantly hit playing cards during your practice sessions you should be able to kill big game animals..if you only choose to shoot at big game at 30 yards or less more power to you...just keep an eye on cash & carry's meat sale flyer cuz you"re gonna need to stock up on it this winter
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People can be as upper cruster, jr erhics hunter, on a forum all day. But the fact is that if someone is good at shooting tell 50, and have hunted for 5 days and see an elk at say 65. There most likely going to take the shot. Just like people that see big bucks hunting with a 3-9x40 at 500 yards and hold over. Just saying that when people see big animals that they have worked so hard to get a shot at, the ethics range thing can change prettyyyy quick.
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I am going to suggest that something will have to be done with regard to allowing unconstrained crossbow selection by disabled during Archery Seasons to rein in the technology. There are now bows that are shooting 400 grain arrows out at 425 fps, allowing a maximum range of far in excess of what has been considered "archery range."
The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be. You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status. So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day?
Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards.
My crossbow is an Excalibur Matrix 355 and has about the same range 60 yards +- or about ten more than I feel comfortable with shooting my compound bow at game. I suppose that it could be stretched out to the same range some here are comfortable shooting, but not to 125 yards, not by a long shot. It has the accuracy, it is possible to shoot inch groups at 50 yards on a calm day off a bench. It is the functional equivalent of pretty much any compound on the market. I use it during modern rifle season when hunting populated areas, I use my compound just as often during Modern Season.
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I say shoot what you think your limitations are. And I hope you put in the effort searching for the animal when your shot goes south. At least your not asking about using an AR.
I wish people put in as much time learning how to track, spot blood etc as they do streaching out their distance.
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I say shoot what you think your limitations are. And I hope you put in the effort searching for the animal when your shot goes south. At least your not asking about using an AR.
I wish people put in as much time learning how to track, spot blood etc as they do streaching out their distance.
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Tracking is one of the most valuable things you and your hunting partner can be good at. We really preach in hunter ed about choosing your hunting partner wisely. One of the things a hunting partner is great for is tracking blood. They aren't emotionally involved in the animal and look at the trail with a more clear headed and logical approach. Whoever shoots is always the one to stand on last blood scanning ahead looking for a dead animal or for an animal to jump from it's bed. The one who didn't shoot does the tracking and stays focussed on the ground and the trail.
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and back to the topic....
53 yards, the same as it is every year.
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Shot at an archery shoot this weekend. Deadly at 77 yards. :tup:
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The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be. You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status. So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day?
Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards.
Can you ecplain what the archery season was "intended to be"? And how exactly we crossbow users during archery season are changing that. I read through the posts and no where were crossbows mentioned so im interested to hear why this was said. Maybe i read into it wrong and if so i appologize for it, just tired of everyone attacking the use of crossbows by diabled hunters for the continued pursuit of a lifelong passion.
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The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be. You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status. So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day?
Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards.
Can you ecplain what the archery season was "intended to be"? And how exactly we crossbow users during archery season are changing that. I read through the posts and no where were crossbows mentioned so im interested to hear why this was said. Maybe i read into it wrong and if so i appologize for it, just tired of everyone attacking the use of crossbows by diabled hunters for the continued pursuit of a lifelong passion.
This would be a great topic for another thread, I will start one in the archery section and then provide a link.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216682.msg2883876/topicseen.html#top
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I shot great at 80 today and not so good at 40 so I guess I will have to let them walk away abit. :dunno:
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I shot great at 80 today and not so good at 40 so I guess I will have to let them walk away abit. :dunno:
My buddy does this with coyotes. Misses them all the time at 100 or so and then drills them at 300 :chuckle: He has to get them running and get them out there to kill them :chuckle:
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The idea of allowing for crossbows for disabled individuals is to allow them to participate, not to turn the archery season into something it was never intended to be. You cannot use scope sights on a any bow, crossbows included, during the Archery Season irrespective of your disability status. So why allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to walk out of Cabela's with a 125 +- yard crossbow and hunt the Archery Seasons the next day?
Archery Season is about stalking or setting up a close range stand as much as it is about becoming proficient with your bow, not long range sniping with a bow that is accurate as most rifles out to about 150 yards.
Can you ecplain what the archery season was "intended to be"? And how exactly we crossbow users during archery season are changing that. I read through the posts and no where were crossbows mentioned so im interested to hear why this was said. Maybe i read into it wrong and if so i appologize for it, just tired of everyone attacking the use of crossbows by diabled hunters for the continued pursuit of a lifelong passion.
Why would an arm, back or shoulder injury open the door to a scope when that is expressly ruled out for Archery Seasons?
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I shot great at 80 today and not so good at 40 so I guess I will have to let them walk away abit. :dunno:
Actually had that conversation this weekend at a shoot. I was shooting the outside edge of the ten ring under forty and dead center of the ten ring at 60 plus. My buddy said you should only take 60 plus yard shots. It was a joke but kind of true. It's almost like I focus more at longer distances.
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I shoot better at 60 than 50. I blame it on the bow :chuckle:
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More hunters need to attend a few 3d shoots. It is the most realistic practice a guy can have.
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I used to practice regularly at 80 and even worked out to 100. I feel practicing at that range makes you a better shot. You really have to focus on grip, anchor, release and follow through on ever shot. I set my personal long at no more than 45. I've Never had to shoot anything over 27 yards with 8 yrds being my short.
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Been pretty dialed in at 60 . I'll stick with that if conditions are good.
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I generally practice out to 100 but really don't like shooting more than 65. In my "old age" I find I've lost the drive to shoot longer. Trying to get back to basics. Heck, I only use hand calls for coyotes for the same reasons anymore....
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50 with perfect conditions and on open ground. 40 otherwise.
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if it were today, 50, but I hope to bump that up to 60 by the opener. One of my hunting partners killed a deer at 95 last September. These new bows are sweet.
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I practice to 80 but in the real world of the hunting woods my effective range is half due to excitement, awkward shooting position, extra hunting clothes etc etc . It is amazing to hear these ranges listed now and how many guys after season will say " I can't believe I missed my elk at 30 yards ! "
:yeah: This never happens according to most
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Dialed in to 75, prefer to keep an animal shot under 50. Only 1 animal that ive shot has been farther than 21 yards tho.
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Today, 60. Working on 65 and 70 yards. Both deer I've killed were within 35 yards. But, Ive missed deer at 15 yards :rolleyes: :dunno:
-Ryan
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I say shoot what you think your limitations are. And I hope you put in the effort searching for the animal when your shot goes south. At least your not asking about using an AR.
I wish people put in as much time learning how to track, spot blood etc as they do streaching out their distance.
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Yes I see and hear this every season. I also see that very few people post there long range success after the season is over. When I started bow hunting it was all about how close you got before you shot and not how far you had to shoot to say you got a shot. :(
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I'm shooting a recurve and wouldn't shoot one over 25yards. I can shoot ok out to 30-35 but if I'm honest with myself 25 and under is what I want and where I know I'm comfortable. I have cedar arrows that are heavy(650ish+) so gravity really starts playing a part once you get out past 30 yards.