Post by: Bushcraft on August 03, 2017, 12:42:56 PM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/wolf-news/
Post by: Curly on August 03, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
Post by: greenhead_killer on August 03, 2017, 01:06:23 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 03, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Post by: Special T on August 03, 2017, 02:24:28 PM
What was preventing them from hinting the north half before?
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Post by: idaho guy on August 03, 2017, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: Doublelunger on August 03, 2017, 03:00:31 PM
Go get them!
What was preventing them from hinting the north half before?
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Well probably because its not on the reservation so it made things a little murky for them legally. They do have traditional hunting rights up there so one could have probably argued all along for the hunting of wolves on the "north half". Either way this is good news.
Post by: Alchase on August 03, 2017, 03:40:23 PM
Can we encourage them to takeout a few thousand sealions as well?
Post by: Humptulips on August 03, 2017, 07:37:57 PM
Post by: wolfbait on August 03, 2017, 07:50:14 PM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/wolf-news/northeast-washington-tribe-may-begin-hunting-wolves-off-reservation/
Post by: JDHasty on August 04, 2017, 08:22:22 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 04, 2017, 08:28:49 AM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
Post by: elkfins on August 04, 2017, 09:08:14 AM
Comments about this here as well:Exactly my thought. I'm all for hunting and managing wolves but letting a certain ethnic group of people have special hunting and fishing rights is a very slippery slope.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 04, 2017, 09:16:16 AM
Post by: wolfbait on August 04, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
I want to be able to hunt wolves, keep the tribe on the res. for now.
Washington has enough wolves now that WDF&Wolves could delist several times over, that being said WDF&Wolves will not delist until they are forced to do so. As far as hunting said wolves, I expect they will fight WA residents on that also. Look at the BS wolf plan they gave the people of WA as an example of their workings.
So any wolves the Tribe kills is a definite plus for the ungulates and perhaps livestock in those areas. :tup:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 04, 2017, 10:37:05 AM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 04, 2017, 10:50:32 AM
That link took me to a story about depredation removals of two wolves on OR?
Try this one:
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/wolf-news/northeast-washington-tribe-may-begin-hunting-wolves-off-reservation/
Post by: wolfbait on August 04, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
Which, by allowing this, just continues to allow WDFW to drag out the delisting process...
WDF&Wolves don't need a reason to drag out delisting, we have already seen they are playing the numbers game, and will continue on that course until wolves become a big enough problem that they have no choice but to delist.
The only wolf control WA will get, will have to come from the public etc..
Welcome to the the fraud and corruption of the wolf introduction
Post by: jackelope on August 04, 2017, 12:04:02 PM
Post by: Curly on August 04, 2017, 12:20:55 PM
Comments about this here as well:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
My understanding is the Colville tribe does a good job of wildlife management. Why complain when they are once again managing wildlife in a way we agree with?
Just like if the Yak's start killing sea lions, I'm going to have a big grin and sure won't complain when they are doing the right thing. :twocents:
Post by: PolarBear on August 04, 2017, 12:27:07 PM
Post by: jdb on August 06, 2017, 07:03:07 AM
Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
Post by: Bob33 on August 06, 2017, 07:25:53 AM
Perhaps not, but there are countless derogatory posts about natives in general without differentiation.Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
Post by: JLS on August 06, 2017, 08:03:21 AM
Comments about this here as well:Exactly my thought. I'm all for hunting and managing wolves but letting a certain ethnic group of people have special hunting and fishing rights is a very slippery slope.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
The already had them, negotiated many, many years ago. Selective outrage is a curious thing though, isn't it?
Post by: Green broke on August 06, 2017, 08:27:56 AM
Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
Post by: Buckblaster on August 08, 2017, 02:32:10 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 08, 2017, 02:49:16 PM
Post by: nwwanderer on August 08, 2017, 05:59:56 PM
Post by: Tbar on August 08, 2017, 06:39:01 PM
Any and every excuse will be used to delay the delisting. We will not hunt wolves in my lifetime in WA. We'll see hunting ended before they sell wolf tags.How will hunting the north half delay delisting? They are already delisted in the eastern third. Add to that the criteria has been met west of there and it dilutes your statement even more. The south cascades are the obstacle that is blocking "delisting". I do agree that the plan does not fit our state though.
Post by: jdb on August 08, 2017, 06:46:22 PM
so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
Post by: bearpaw on August 08, 2017, 06:54:43 PM
Any and every excuse will be used to delay the delisting. We will not hunt wolves in my lifetime in WA. We'll see hunting ended before they sell wolf tags.
I somewhat agree, I think eventually the feds will delist western WA and then WDFW may delist wolves in the state at which time there will be political pressure to hunt wolves in NE WA. But as soon as any hunting season is potentially possible we will see a ballot initiative for a state law prohibiting wolf hunting and that might pass.
I'm glad to hear the Colville's are going to hunt wolves on the north half, it may be the only wolf season to occur in NE WA ever!
Post by: Green broke on August 08, 2017, 07:08:20 PM
Your ignorance exudes! You have no clue what contribution Muckleshoot makes to all wildlife and the way they manage.so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
Post by: jdb on August 08, 2017, 07:11:58 PM
Post by: Buckblaster on August 10, 2017, 06:15:26 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 10, 2017, 07:02:04 PM
Your ignorance exudes! You have no clue what contribution Muckleshoot makes to all wildlife and the way they manage.so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
:chuckle:
Post by: Green broke on August 10, 2017, 07:04:15 PM
We are even managing east side herds!Your ignorance exudes! You have no clue what contribution Muckleshoot makes to all wildlife and the way they manage.so your going to argue that the yakimas and the mucks manage their game wisely?? Who's the ingnorant one here?Comments about this here as well:i don't know that I've seen those complaints about the. collville tribe, the do an excellent job of managing there game and probably have the best deer hunting in the state. The yaks and the mucks are the rotten apples. If they all followed suit with the colville I think you'd see a lot less negative feelings toward natives in general
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,216558.msg2882424.html#msg2882424
I find it very interesting how as long as it doesn't involve deer or elk, the tribes get so much support...
Where are the "Same laws for everybody" or the "I don't care what they do as long as they stay on the reservation" protesters now???
You are ignorant Jdb. Generalization of 14,000 as rotten apples. Guy's like you drive the wedge of division deeper and deeper.
:chuckle:
Post by: jdb on August 10, 2017, 07:08:45 PM
Post by: Green broke on August 10, 2017, 07:19:06 PM
Managing them to extinction:dunno: It's more like a pointed effort on herd health, mortality causes, population trends, establishing a data set, hundreds of active collars on multiple species, limited seasons, predator management, collaboration with other managers....... I could go on.
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 10, 2017, 08:18:09 PM