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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Skillet on August 11, 2017, 10:39:02 AM

Title: Win 1895
Post by: Skillet on August 11, 2017, 10:39:02 AM: Anybody have one? Likes/dislikes, things to look out for if checking one out to buy?
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: birddogdad on August 11, 2017, 11:20:47 AM: have 4 of them. for myself, father and 2 sons purchased. 1895 XLR's, put a 4x scope on dads because he cannot see thru open sights
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: jdb on August 11, 2017, 12:23:53 PM: One of my all time favorite rifles. My dad had one when I was a kid. My uncle had several and my grandad also had one.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: birddogdad on August 11, 2017, 12:35:41 PM: guess I didn't give likes /dislikes. watch that you don't get a micro grooved barrel model. no good if you cast loads. Also older versions of 1895 were short back stocked. felt like a daisy bb gun and subsequent fitting made felt recoil more. XLR fixed that (for me). I don't shoot factory ammo but there are many options out there. I load my own ammo and use from deer to elk as a close in stalking rifle in certain conditions (ie rain). on a deer, any angle will work with minimal meat damage.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: Skillet on August 11, 2017, 12:45:58 PM: Thanks for the input fellas. Found a nice one up here in AK for sale, been rebarreled to 338-06.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: theleo on August 11, 2017, 12:46:24 PM: Quote from: birddogdad on August 11, 2017, 11:20:47 AM
have 4 of them. for myself, father and 2 sons purchased. 1895 XLR's, put a 4x scope on dads because he cannot see thru open sights

He's not talking Marlins. the Whinchesters and later Brownings are an entirely different animal than the Marlin. Teddy had win 1895's to charge San Juan Hill and to take on Safari in Africa.

Things to be aware of: 30 US and 30 GOV are two entirely different chamberings.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: boneaddict on August 11, 2017, 12:48:17 PM: Quote
felt like a daisy bb

Kinda looks like one too if I remember right.

Hey, it's a win and it's a lever gun. Can't go wrong. Right
Isn't it Russian?
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: Skillet on August 11, 2017, 12:51:55 PM: Theleo is right - Winchester 1895. Top loading/ejecting.

It may look like a red ryder, but it should do more than just put your eye out.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: theleo on August 11, 2017, 12:58:28 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on August 11, 2017, 12:48:17 PM
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felt like a daisy bb

Kinda looks like one too if I remember right.

Hey, it's a win and it's a lever gun. Can't go wrong. Right
Isn't it Russian?
Don't forget, it's also a Browning design.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: HawkCreek on August 11, 2017, 01:05:54 PM: I dont have an original Winchester but I do have one of the reproductions by Miroku. It's a VERY well made rifle with much better fit and finish than is common these days. I haven't gotten around to working up loads for it but with some cheap 180 grain RN and using my tailgate as a bench rest I was able to shoot a 1.25" group at 90 yards last time I was able to take it shooting.
I've been much to busy but I plan to put a repro receiver sight on it and work up loads. I'm hopeful I can get 1MOA out of it. It's heavier than it looks but it feels like a bank vault when it locks up. Smoother than a 94 I'd say it's neck and neck with a 71 or 92 for having a slick action.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: JimmyHoffa on August 11, 2017, 01:11:06 PM: Quote from: theleo on August 11, 2017, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: boneaddict on August 11, 2017, 12:48:17 PM
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felt like a daisy bb

Kinda looks like one too if I remember right.

Hey, it's a win and it's a lever gun. Can't go wrong. Right
Isn't it Russian?
Don't forget, it's also a Browning design.
:yeah: A browning design that Winchester actually built, so lots of good there. The Russians did get a certain model, but they have full length stocks for bayonets. I personally prefer the flatsides over the later versions (scalloped/two piece lever/release), but still nice to see an early lever that doesn't need flatnose bullets.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: HawkCreek on August 11, 2017, 01:18:09 PM: Quote from: JimmyHoffa on August 11, 2017, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: theleo on August 11, 2017, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: boneaddict on August 11, 2017, 12:48:17 PM
Quote
felt like a daisy bb

Kinda looks like one too if I remember right.

Hey, it's a win and it's a lever gun. Can't go wrong. Right
Isn't it Russian?
Don't forget, it's also a Browning design.
:yeah: A browning design that Winchester actually built, so lots of good there. The Russians did get a certain model, but they have full length stocks for bayonets. I personally prefer the flatsides over the later versions (scalloped/two piece lever/release), but still nice to see an early lever that doesn't need flatnose bullets.

Don't forget the deeper nose of the earlier style magazine.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: Skillet on August 11, 2017, 05:02:47 PM: Could you elaborate on that mag difference hawkcreek? What version came with what mag? Is there a disadvantage to either mag version?
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: HawkCreek on August 11, 2017, 05:11:24 PM: Just a cosmetic difference. They changed the magazines roughly the same time they moved away from the flat side to the scalloped receiver (around serial #5000). Notice the flat side gun in the middle has a magazine that is deeper in the front while the other two have "shorter" magazines. They all hold the same number of rounds. The old adds are a misleading, the magazine will hold 5 rounds but you must chamber one of those rounds to close the bolt. The magazine is stuffed full with those 5 rounds and you can't shove them down to get the bolt over the top of them, so technically they hold 5 rounds but in reality it's 4+1 (splitting hairs maybe but it makes a difference to some).

(https://winchestercollector.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/18952.jpg)
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: Skillet on August 11, 2017, 05:15:49 PM: Copy that, thanks for the info. I'll see what version it is next time I'm in town.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: AWS on August 11, 2017, 09:16:12 PM: My dad was in the navy during WW-II after the end of the war his ship would go from island to island in the south pacific, the ones we bypassed to tell the Japanese that the war was over. He was in the landing party and said that they were issued lever action rifles from the ships armory and they used standard military ammo. When he told me that the only rifle I could think of was the 1895 and was surprised to hear they had them onboard the ship.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: lucky7 on August 12, 2017, 08:29:53 PM: "Big Medicine"
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: HawkCreek on August 13, 2017, 08:45:17 AM: This is a great article comparing the original Winchesters vs the newer reproductions by Miroku for Browning as well as Winchester.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/model_1895.htm
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: T-Bone on August 15, 2017, 06:22:25 AM: Quote from: HawkCreek on August 13, 2017, 08:45:17 AM
This is a great article comparing the original Winchesters vs the newer reproductions by Miroku for Browning as well as Winchester.

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/model_1895.htm

Thanks HawkCreek!...A very nice read.
Title: Re: Win 1895
Post by: snowshoes22 on August 15, 2017, 10:06:39 PM: Hoping to kill a bear with my 405 this weekend.