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Title: We are not alone.
Post by: 2MANY on September 06, 2017, 08:05:41 AM
From another source.

"I wanted to bump this up.This appeared on FB today. Photos went with it, gruesome.

Our dear friend Tom Sommer went elk hunting in MT. decided to tangle with a Grizzly this morning. Tom didn't win but he made it out alive after a 5 mile mule ride after the incident. he is in hospital being stitched up. I will have more info as it trickles in. one thing is certain. there is no way the bear survived that bite. :). apparently Tom pulled his pistol but bear swiped it out of his hand. sounds like Tom was saved by quick thinking friend with pepper spray. I am sure lots more to Come,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, UPDATE,,,,, ok people. Tom just called. he is alive and well. in a little hospital in Ennis, MT. 90 stitches in his head. so the story goes they are on a ridge working elk, they spot a griz at 30 yards so Tom yells at it. Tom says apparently Griz don't like to be yelled at. it charged. tom And partner Dan both pulled out pepper spray. Dan sprayed but Toms spray didn't work so bear came after Tom. Tom ran behind a tree, bear kept coming. apparently bear chased Tom around tree twice, Tom got his pistol out turned to shoot, bear knocked his hand down. Tom hit ground. bear bit through thigh then put toms head in his mouth. while head in mouth tom tried to shoot bear in neck but bear stepped on hand /gun. Tom said he could hear his skull cracking. thought that was it. Dan shot bear at 2 feet with pepper spray. that's all it took. bear ran off and tom shot at it but said he couldn't see anything from all the blood and pepper spray in his face. 4 hours later after several hours on back of mule he is alive and in hospital. great spirits. was laughing."

Not for the faint of heart.
https://i.imgur.com/eGXV1cT.jpg
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Post by: Elkcollector82 on September 06, 2017, 08:10:26 AM
 :yike:
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Post by: Jimmybelltown on September 06, 2017, 08:24:18 AM
  :yike: that pic is brutal. too bad he did not get a rug out of the deal.
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Post by: h2ofowlr on September 06, 2017, 08:26:48 AM
Doesn't sound like a fun experience.
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Post by: PlateauNDN on September 06, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
 :puke:
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Post by: Labs07 on September 06, 2017, 08:33:59 AM
That brutal!  I believe this was in Ennis MT.  This is where that guys was attacked twice last year.  Thank god for bear spray....that stuff flat ass works!
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Post by: kellama2001 on September 06, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
Yikes!!  :yike: :yike: :yike: Good thing he wasn't hunting solo!
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Post by: bigdave on September 06, 2017, 09:36:05 AM
Never ever let that friend, Dan, buy another beer!!! He just earned a lifetime supply.
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Post by: Netminder01 on September 06, 2017, 10:46:07 AM
Holy heck!!

The story itself painted a clear picture but the damage shown in the picture is shocking.

Glad he made and be able to tell his story. Wow.
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Post by: Widgeondeke on September 06, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
 :yike:
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Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 06, 2017, 11:31:00 AM
Holy heck!!

The story itself painted a clear picture but the damage shown in the picture is shocking.

Glad he made and be able to tell his story. Wow.

Tough old guy.  Ripped to shreds with pepper spray in his wounds.  :yike:

Man o man has Dan earned a few favors.
Title: Re: We are not alone.
Post by: Special T on September 06, 2017, 11:39:06 AM
I'm going to make sure AND share that story here so All the locals know what they are in for when they bring in 2-300 into the north cascades!
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Post by: Stein on September 06, 2017, 11:47:09 AM
Wow, huge open wound and then drenched in pepper spray.


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Title: Re: We are not alone.
Post by: 2MANY on September 06, 2017, 11:51:30 AM
More info.


Grizzly bear knocks pistol out of hunter's hand in Montana mauling which ends with mule trek to safety
Posted about 2 hours ago
Close up of Tom Sommer, who has a bloodied bandage wrapped around his head.
Photo: Tom Sommer suffered cuts to his head, leg and arm after he was mauled by a grizzly bear. (AP: Tom Sommer)
Related Story: Man charged after brutal attack on kangaroo goes viral on Chinese social media
Map: United States
A grizzly bear has mauled a bow hunter in the US state of Montana, slashing a 41-centimetre cut in his head that required 90 stitches.
"I could hear bones crunching, just like you read about," Tom Sommer said as he recovered in hospital on Tuesday afternoon.
The 57-year-old said he and a hunting partner were looking for an elk they had been calling on Monday morning.
His partner spotted a grizzly bear feeding on an elk carcass in the southern end of the Gravelly Range, just north of the Idaho border.
"The bear just flat-out charged us," Mr Sommer said, saying it closed the nine-metre distance between them in three or four seconds.
His hunting partner fired his bear spray, which slowed the bear's charge.
Mr Sommer said he grabbed his own canister so quickly that he couldn't release the safety and he couldn't afford to look down as the bear closed in.
He ran around a tree twice and dropped his bear spray in the process.
Mr Sommer then grabbed his pistol and turned to confront the bear.
"It bit my thigh, ran his claws through my wrist and proceeded to attack my head," he said.
A close up of a head wound with stitches.
Photo: Tom Sommer needed stitches to his head after he was attacked by a grizzly. (AP: Tom Sommer)
He still had his pistol in his hand and was going to shoot the bear in the neck when it swatted his arm down, Mr Sommer said.
"Jut like that it stopped," he said. "He stopped biting me, he got up and started to run away."
His hunting partner had been able to fire the rest of his bear spray, ending the attack, which lasted about 25 seconds.
"It could have been a lot worse," Mr Sommer said.
Mr Sommer's hunting partner had some blood coagulation powder and they made a turban, stopping the bleeding after about 15 minutes.
They walked 1.6 kilometres back to their camp and rode mules another 6.4km out to their base camp, followed by a two-hour ride in a ute to get to the hospital in Ennis.
"Through it all I was very conscious, very level-headed and low key about it," Mr Sommer said.
"Besides some scars, it doesn't appear that I will have any problems.
"I've been a hunter my whole life. I have no grievance against the bear. He was just doing what bears do.
"But I would have shot him just the same."
AP
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Post by: wooltie on September 06, 2017, 11:53:28 AM
Anyone know what part or area of the state he was hunting?
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Post by: Gringo31 on September 06, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
I've been told that your ratio of surviving a brown bear attack is directly related to the circumference of your head.  That they like to pop it like a grape for you small headed guys  :chuckle:


Incredible story........  Good they were prepared and used the best weapon of all......good sound clear thinking under pressure  :tup:
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Post by: pianoman9701 on September 06, 2017, 01:58:19 PM
 :yeah:  :yike:
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on September 06, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
Tough guy.  Glad he made it out alive. 
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Post by: biggfish on September 06, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
Glad he made it out alive, but looking at it after the fact maybe one guy should have in spray and the other gun at the ready.  Hope he makes a full recovery without any permanent problems.

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Post by: Scheindogg on September 06, 2017, 05:55:45 PM
Glad he made it out alive, but looking at it after the fact maybe one guy should have in spray and the other gun at the ready.  Hope he makes a full recovery without any permanent problems.

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Title: Re: We are not alone.
Post by: KFhunter on September 06, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
I've been told that your ratio of surviving a brown bear attack is directly related to the circumference of your head.  That they like to pop it like a grape for you small headed guys  :chuckle:


Incredible story........  Good they were prepared and used the best weapon of all......good sound clear thinking under pressure  :tup:

I'm safe then  :IBCOOL: 

A Grizzly bear would take one look at the size of my melon and think to itself "man, ain't no way I'm gonna get that melon in my mouth, look at the size of that!"   and walk off. 


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Post by: jdb on September 06, 2017, 07:27:06 PM
I've been told that your ratio of surviving a brown bear attack is directly related to the circumference of your head.  That they like to pop it like a grape for you small headed guys  :chuckle:


Incredible story........  Good they were prepared and used the best weapon of all......good sound clear thinking under pressure  :tup:
im in luck, I've got a big ole melon!!
Title: Re: We are not alone.
Post by: 2MANY on September 07, 2017, 12:51:40 PM
Another story from this year.

"Disregard if no grizzlies are in your hunting area.

I elk hunt in moderate grizzly country.  Yesterday my hunting partner frontal shot a big bull at 16 yards and got only 1 lung.  We trailed the bull for 4 hr and finally found him dead and 730 p.m.  Over a mile and a half blood trail.  Huge. We immediately thought that the long blood trail would attract grizzlies.  We boned, bagged, caped (I'll post a pic here on the Meatpole soon) and got out of there at 9 p.m.  We put the cape and horns 200yd from the kill and continued another 200 to stage a few meat bags in the creek.  I suggested that my partner go grab the cape and horns while I fill the water bladders (80 degree day).He went 100 yards. It was dark.  He caught eyes looking at him 70 yards away.  Huge.  He screamed, "hey bear".  And just like that, it charged.  He had his 44 in his hand and fired.  The bear cut the charge and detoured.  He ran back to me.  We both were pretty shook up. It wasn't over.  We staged all 4 bags in the creek and walked directly toward our rig.  2 more griz right in front of us 50 yard. We held our ground, pistols drawn, bear spray ready.  After a few minutes both bears wandered off.  We hightailed it outta there. No further incident. Horsing it out today 
LESSONS LEARNED
1. NEVER, EVER, Split up in bear country for any reason.
2.  Never Put your guard down. Even if you do everything right, the S---- can still hit the fan.
3. Pack both the bearspray and the firearm.  Great idea.
4. Buy the brightest headlight you can if you plan on walking out in the dark in bear country. 
PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE GUYS!  Personally, I will not be hunting in moderate griz country from this point on.  6 hours of horror not worth elk.  And elk hunting is what I live for.  "
Title: Re: We are not alone.
Post by: buglebrush on September 07, 2017, 08:38:42 PM
Another story from this year.

"Disregard if no grizzlies are in your hunting area.

I elk hunt in moderate grizzly country.  Yesterday my hunting partner frontal shot a big bull at 16 yards and got only 1 lung.  We trailed the bull for 4 hr and finally found him dead and 730 p.m.  Over a mile and a half blood trail.  Huge. We immediately thought that the long blood trail would attract grizzlies.  We boned, bagged, caped (I'll post a pic here on the Meatpole soon) and got out of there at 9 p.m.  We put the cape and horns 200yd from the kill and continued another 200 to stage a few meat bags in the creek.  I suggested that my partner go grab the cape and horns while I fill the water bladders (80 degree day).He went 100 yards. It was dark.  He caught eyes looking at him 70 yards away.  Huge.  He screamed, "hey bear".  And just like that, it charged.  He had his 44 in his hand and fired.  The bear cut the charge and detoured.  He ran back to me.  We both were pretty shook up. It wasn't over.  We staged all 4 bags in the creek and walked directly toward our rig.  2 more griz right in front of us 50 yard. We held our ground, pistols drawn, bear spray ready.  After a few minutes both bears wandered off.  We hightailed it outta there. No further incident. Horsing it out today 
LESSONS LEARNED
1. NEVER, EVER, Split up in bear country for any reason.
2.  Never Put your guard down. Even if you do everything right, the S---- can still hit the fan.
3. Pack both the bearspray and the firearm.  Great idea.
4. Buy the brightest headlight you can if you plan on walking out in the dark in bear country. 
PLEASE BE SAFE OUT THERE GUYS!  Personally, I will not be hunting in moderate griz country from this point on.  6 hours of horror not worth elk.  And elk hunting is what I live for.  "

I hate Grizzlies! 
Title: Re: We are not alone.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 07, 2017, 09:27:07 PM
 :yeah: Yup I hunt solo most of the time and I don't even mess with units that have grizz in them. I have been in a few poor situations with blk bears and that was bad enough let alone dealing with a grizz.
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Post by: bearpaw on September 07, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
Ursus arctos horribilis

there must be a reason for the name....

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Post by: buglebrush on September 08, 2017, 09:46:50 PM
Planning to head out solo into an area that I have seen Grizzlies.   :bash:
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Post by: predatorG on September 09, 2017, 04:44:55 AM
Planning to head out solo into an area that I have seen Grizzlies.   :bash:

Stay safe man. Have any contacts in the area in case something goes awry ? Have a sat phone in case there's no service ? Also good luck, kill a big elk  ;)
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Post by: Alchase on September 09, 2017, 06:22:33 AM
Ursus arctos horribilis

there must be a reason for the name....



 :yeah:

Those old Latin guys must have been pretty darn smart,

 :chuckle:

That name is fitting.
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