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Title: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: magnanimous_j on September 19, 2017, 04:15:18 PM
So I've made pizza at home from scratch a handful of times and I keep running into the same problem. I bake it on a bread stone in the oven and I can't figure out how to get the pizza from the counter to the oven without wrecking it.

There are two workarounds. I can either assemble the pizza on the stone and load it into the oven that way, but then the pizza stone isn't as hot as I'd like, or I can half bake the dough before assembling the pizza so the pizza isn't so floppy when I try to put it on the stone, but I think that leads to crust that is too "cracker-y"

Without getting a pizza peel, which I frankly don't have room to store, does anyone have any tricks for this? Because in my mind, the only thing I can't do as well as the premium pizzerias is that chewy, just a hint of scorch, crust.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: jamesfromseattle on September 19, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
I have given up on the pizza stone.  Can never seem to get it right due to the same problems as you described.

I've started basking them on a big cast iron pan, instead.  It is not traditional, but it is fool proof.  The crust gets crispy but doesn't burn too bad like a thinner pan in a hot oven would.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: robodad on September 19, 2017, 04:52:51 PM
Add a little corn meal to the flour your using to dust the counter before rolling out your dough then to transport your pizza to the stone slide a thin piece of cardboard under the pizza or assemble your pizza on the cardboard and it should slide easy onto your stone !! and make sure that stone is hot !!
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: magnanimous_j on September 19, 2017, 04:56:22 PM
Add a little corn meal to the flour your using to dust the counter before rolling out your dough then to transport your pizza to the stone slide a thin piece of cardboard under the pizza or assemble your pizza on the cardboard and it should slide easy onto your stone !! and make sure that stone is hot !!

Thanks for the tip. I think I'll try that tonight. My wife orders so much stuff off Amazon that Jeff Bezos sends us a Christmas card, so I have plenty of access to cardboard.  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: wafisherman on September 19, 2017, 05:01:10 PM
I agree with that approach.  use a generous amount of flour, and create your pizza on top of cardboard or even the back side or totally flat cookie sheet.  Pre-heat oven and pizza stone.  Pull out the stone by removing the entire oven rack it is sitting on if you have to.  Easier and less messy than trying to slide it into the hot oven...  Set that down on the stove and easily slide the pizza onto it.  You can reverse this when pizza is done if needed.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: JLS on September 19, 2017, 05:46:14 PM
We have a large pizza paddle, but a piece of cardboard would also work.  As suggested above, put a generous amount of corn meal on the paddle/cardboard.  Roll out your dough on the counter, then fold it into quarters and put it on the paddle.  Assemble your pizza, then slide it (quickly) onto the stone.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 19, 2017, 06:37:15 PM
The America's test kitchen Pizza recipe is the easiest to follow and get right.

http://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/americas-test-kitchen-thin-crust-pizza-472204

As a replacement for a peel, try a lipless cookie sheet with a layer of the pizza dough flour (above recipe calls for bread flour), or corn meal, on the cookie sheet, and assemble the pizza after you've stretched the dough, on the cookie sheet.  You might still need a spatula to help the pizza onto the stone.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: kselkhunter on September 19, 2017, 07:02:24 PM
We pretty much have to make our own pizza now, given my wife's celiac diagnosis.  We switched from pizza stone to pizza steel for crispier crusts.  And if making thin crust with few toppings, the corn meal works well on a wooden cutting board and just slide it off. 

But, we switched to parchment paper now and it works outstanding.  Just lift the paper with pizza on it and put the whole thing on the stone/steel.   
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: Blacklab on September 21, 2017, 05:40:34 AM
Being a peel/cast iron guy. You all have great ideas  :tup:
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: quadrafire on September 21, 2017, 08:44:00 AM
I was having the same problem. We like thin crust pizza so I went with this type of pan. Roll the dough out  on counter top, lay on the mesh sheet then decorate to your choosing. The mesh allows good airflow for a crisp crust. I suppose you could lay it directly on top of the stone.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/16-aluminum-pizza-screen/40718716.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=CjwKCAjwxo3OBRBpEiwAS7X62ZCnmCUesy5U7kqUA06MAlF2wPleO01kIcFkQ7dPzzR4wDDx3MP18RoCqiUQAvD_BwE

Don't press the dough into this pan as it will get caught in the mesh, otherwise it does not stick at all. I bought mine locally at a kitchen/restaurant  supply store
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: longashes on September 21, 2017, 08:52:45 AM

But, we switched to parchment paper now and it works outstanding.  Just lift the paper with pizza on it and put the whole thing on the stone/steel.

+1  :tup:
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on September 21, 2017, 08:57:06 AM
We pretty much have to make our own pizza now, given my wife's celiac diagnosis.  We switched from pizza stone to pizza steel for crispier crusts.  And if making thin crust with few toppings, the corn meal works well on a wooden cutting board and just slide it off. 

But, we switched to parchment paper now and it works outstanding.  Just lift the paper with pizza on it and put the whole thing on the stone/steel.

I too started using the parchment paper method a couple years ago. Works great.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: jaymark6655 on September 21, 2017, 11:48:47 AM
+1 for cornmeal  :tup:
I also add my toppings after cooking the dough just a little after watching a pro do it that way.  Basically each topping gets added at an appropriate time to keep it from getting overcooked.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: magnanimous_j on September 21, 2017, 12:15:23 PM
We pretty much have to make our own pizza now, given my wife's celiac diagnosis.  We switched from pizza stone to pizza steel for crispier crusts.  And if making thin crust with few toppings, the corn meal works well on a wooden cutting board and just slide it off. 

But, we switched to parchment paper now and it works outstanding.  Just lift the paper with pizza on it and put the whole thing on the stone/steel.

I too started using the parchment paper method a couple years ago. Works great.

That's what I ended up doing. It burned a little bit and set my smoke detector off, but other than that it worked great.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: follow maggie on September 21, 2017, 10:56:41 PM
Google pizza spatula

https://www.bing.com/search?q=pizza+spatula&form=APIPA1&PC=APPD
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: BackStrappin on September 30, 2017, 08:55:15 AM
pizza screen.  Cash n Carry for under 5 bucks
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: jackmaster on September 30, 2017, 09:26:17 AM
Save a family size cardboard disk that your pizza comes !!
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: cat fisher on September 30, 2017, 09:49:10 AM
use rice flour not cornmeal the rice flour does not burn like cornmeal can at high temp .oven and stone need to be at 500 plus temp.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 30, 2017, 09:50:36 AM
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Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: pcal on September 30, 2017, 10:49:12 AM

use rice flour not cornmeal the rice flour does not burn like cornmeal can at high temp .oven and stone need to be at 500 plus temp.
I suggest you buy a small bag of Bobs Redmill semolina flour instead as that is what the chefs use in Naples.I have yet to burn it if the oven is less than 600f.You can make pasta from that flour thats better than any you can buy,too.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 30, 2017, 11:31:33 AM
pizza screen.  Cash n Carry for under 5 bucks

Good to see someone chime in on these.
Title: Re: Homemade pizza advice needed
Post by: donsk16 on October 02, 2017, 09:03:45 AM

use rice flour not cornmeal the rice flour does not burn like cornmeal can at high temp .oven and stone need to be at 500 plus temp.
I suggest you buy a small bag of Bobs Redmill semolina flour instead as that is what the chefs use in Naples.I have yet to burn it if the oven is less than 600f.You can make pasta from that flour thats better than any you can buy,too.

I prefer to use semola flour - it is a little less coarse than semolina and to me makes better pasta and is less corn mealish (like the semolina) on the pizza side of things.  Might be worth trying and seeing if you like it.
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