Post by: TimBaleia on October 03, 2017, 11:56:46 PM
Im looking to buy a hunting rifle. So far Savage 11/111 due to great price/quality. Trying to choose in which caliber.
Oh boy. Im considering this calibers:
308 win 25$
270 win 24$
30-06 35$
7mm rem mag 37$
300 win mag 33$
6.5 Creedmoor???
Looking for this rifle to take longer range shots. Thats why more into long action and mags. Eventually want to get lever action in 30-30 for closer range.
Any suggestions on rifle and caliber? Thoughts? Thx!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 04, 2017, 04:50:12 AM
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Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 04, 2017, 06:28:31 AM
The ammo is relatively cheap and it's almost guaranteed to be in stock at a local yocal hardware store or gas station if for some reason you didn't bring enough :twocents:
I'm not arguing against the other calibers; this is my experience.
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 04, 2017, 06:52:22 AM
All those caliber's are fine, the mag rounds with shoot flatter with more recoil.
There was a guy selling some Rugers on here a day or so ago for a good price. Might look at those. I just bought a Ruger American in 6.5 and it's shoot's moa and better out of the box.
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Post by: BNAElkhntr on October 04, 2017, 07:23:20 AM
Go with the 300 Win Mag. It will do long range very well, and with good bullet weight selection you can take anything on the American Continent. Ammunition is also readily available in all Sporting Goods stores.:yeah:
It will shoot further than most people can master Especially with reloads
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Post by: JeffRaines on October 04, 2017, 09:12:00 AM
Hello everyone!
Im looking to buy a hunting rifle. So far Savage 11/111 due to great price/quality. Trying to choose in which caliber.
Oh boy. Im considering this calibers:
308 win 25$
270 win 24$
30-06 35$
7mm rem mag 37$
300 win mag 33$
6.5 Creedmoor???
Looking for this rifle to take longer range shots. Thats why more into long action and mags. Eventually want to get lever action in 30-30 for closer range.
Any suggestions on rifle and caliber? Thoughts? Thx!
Is this your first centerfire? or first rifle in general?
Everyones jumping on the magnum bandwagon, and magnums are great once you have really established the fundamentals of shooting. Thing is, most people go out and buy the biggest thing they can for their first gun because "I'm only gonna buy one so I gotta buy the one thats going to last me forever and do everything" or something along those lines. You will buy more guns later on.
If this is your first centerfire, starting with a magnum has a huge chance of giving you a flinch. Hell, you can develop a flinch shooting 243 for that matter. It doesn't matter how insensitive you are to recoil.
People also overestimate the amount of gun they need for animals. Sure, if you're hunting moose or elk buy a bigger caliber... for anything else hunt-able in Washington, you can go read tons of anecdotes on the smaller guns taking game just as effectively. A good site for this is called ballistic studies - go to knowledgebase and then go to cartridge research, they have a LOT of info on there when it comes to terminal ballistics.
If you don't already have a 22LR, I would suggest starting there. The fundamentals of marksmanship can be well established with a 22 - and not only that, you're looking at something thats a whole lot cheaper to feed. You can get 300 rounds of .22 for 30 bucks. Thats a whole lot of practice. Then, go and get yourself something like a 243 to start.
Honestly, I wish someone had told me the same thing when I started... actually, I wish I just would've listened to the people who told me this(there were a few). :twocents:
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 04, 2017, 09:39:36 AM
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Post by: TimBaleia on October 04, 2017, 01:00:34 PM
"I'm only gonna buy one so I gotta buy the one thats going to last me forever and do everything"
Did you some how got my dairy ??? LOL
Post by: SpurInSpokane on October 04, 2017, 01:13:48 PM
I was of the same mind when I bought my first (not too long ago). I wasn't thinking super-long range or anything; ended up going with .270win. Since then, I've bought two more rifles, and probably not done yet. I've bought them from other guys on here; if you get addicted to the "Weapons/Ammo Classifieds", trust me, you'll find something that tickles your fancy eventually.
I started about in the middle, others have suggested starting at the bottom and working up. I don't really think it matters, but I think it's probably best to assume, whatever you get, that you'll find something another rifle would do better.
Anything on the list will probably do most of the jobs you need it, the key is get something and get started!
Post by: Bob33 on October 04, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
Everyones jumping on the magnum bandwagon, and magnums are great once you have really established the fundamentals of shooting. Thing is, most people go out and buy the biggest thing they can for their first gun because "I'm only gonna buy one so I gotta buy the one thats going to last me forever and do everything" or something along those lines. You will buy more guns later on.:yeah:
If this is your first centerfire, starting with a magnum has a huge chance of giving you a flinch. Hell, you can develop a flinch shooting 243 for that matter. It doesn't matter how insensitive you are to recoil.
People also overestimate the amount of gun they need for animals. Sure, if you're hunting moose or elk buy a bigger caliber... for anything else hunt-able in Washington, you can go read tons of anecdotes on the smaller guns taking game just as effectively.
I'd suggest a 270 or 308. Ammunition is readily available, is relatively inexpensive compared to others, and recoil is on the milder side compared to some others on that list.
A flinch that throws a bullet even a couple inches at 100 yards completely negates the value of a magnum caliber for deer and elk sized animals.
Post by: TimBaleia on October 04, 2017, 01:35:54 PM
I like guns but I will no spend extra money for weapon from same class (a gun which will do same thing).
So I most likely will end up with one long range gun. Lever action 30-30 for medium distance.
And my Mossberg 500 with scope does fine at 100 yards.
I do own Savage Mark II 22lr rifle which is more than enough for small game and I知 practicing with it at least 2 times a month. I知 shooting 22lr and air rifles for almost 20 years, so I知 pretty good with guns in general and I知 fast learning guy. Lately got very exited about shooting traps and quickly getting better at it.
Once again thank you all for your input.
I知 not from US originally so I知 not very familiar with common calibers as in Europe I shoot what easy to get permit for (22lr and Air Guns).
I love hunting and exited about this privilege being so accessible in US.
Mainly looking for deer but will go for bigger game eventually.
I shoot only what I eat. I don稚 care about trophy.
I took a quick look on the shelf in the store and check prices and availability and came up with that list.
Also this savage 11/111 features nice price/quality relation and its available in this calibers.
I知 not reloading but eventually might start to do so.
I don稚 think that availability of the ammo on gas stations is a big factor for me as I will get ammo online and will stock up.
Talking about long range shots i mean up to 500-600 yards hunting and up to 1000 yards target/steel shooting.
I知 not planning to compete with this rifle so i will no cycle thru lots of ammo. Price of ammo is not critical, although I didn't include in this list ammo which is 100$ for box of 20. But difference f couple bucks for box will no affect my decision.
As I知 looking for meat magnums is less preferable as it will cause more meat damage.
Don't know will short action like 308 will be good enough in terms of ballistics and killing power etc.
Don't know anything about 6.5 CM so please share your experience. There is a very good reviews online and people calling this "best modern cartridge". I know its heavily used for target shooting but is it any good for hunting?
What is left is long action. 270 and 30-06. Any other calibers you guys suggest?
Seems to me that 270 is great cartridge which is hot and shooting flat, but no one mention it in the comments.
So I think that I have 3 options I知 thinking about and its 270, 30-06 and 6.5 CM.
Unless I知 wrong on my thought about short action and magnums.
Post by: Bob33 on October 04, 2017, 01:40:34 PM
If you plan to shoot at game at 500+ yards, I would suggest that you will want to cycle through lots of ammo to become proficient. That's a long poke. :twocents:
Talking about long range shots i mean up to 500-600 yards hunting and up to 1000 yards target/steel shooting.
I知 not planning to compete with this rifle so i will no cycle thru lots of ammo.
Post by: TimBaleia on October 04, 2017, 01:54:43 PM
If you plan to shoot at game at 500+ yards, I would suggest that you will want to cycle through lots of ammo to become proficient. That's a long poke. :twocents:
Definitely will no take a shot like this the day I buy this rifle. I meant that i will no spend 2-3 days a week shooting 500 rounds a day as im not a professional competition shooter. I use to do this when i was competing in biathlon but its a rimfire rifle. My range have 300 yards lanes. I will no shoot my shotgun down the 300 yards. Lever action 30-30 would be what? 200 yards max? So Im looking for a rifle with which i will be able to take longer shots but not all of them will be 500-600 yards.
Thx
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 04, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
For 308, you can go much longer distances if you start reloading and using Alco bullets, which gives you a lot better ballistics. For deer, you should be fine with all those calibers, but if you're going to use it for bear, elk, and so forth later, shooting a few hundred yards, I would definitely go with magnum, especially 300 Win Mag, otherwise you'll find yourself chasing wounded animals for miles, sometimes even loosing them because of poor shot placement.
But since you said you're going to shoot a lot, get 308, it's cheap, effective, and powerful enough to kill anything here in medium range (long ranges also, with good shot placement). Just learn how to shoot accurately and you won't need a magnum. Precision beats power, all day every day!
Post by: TimBaleia on October 04, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
But since you said you're going to shoot a lot, get 308, it's cheap, effective, and powerful enough to kill anything here in medium range (long ranges also, with good shot placement). Just learn how to shoot accurately and you won't need a magnum. Precision beats power, all day every day!
Can you say anything about 6.5 CM?
As much as i understand its similar to 308 but have better ballistics.
Thank you.
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 04, 2017, 02:17:22 PM
There's a saying," Be afraid of the guy with only one gun." Just learn how to shoot accurately, that's all. If you start reloading and using Alco aluminum tip bullets for 308, your max effective range will be similar to magnum calibers. If the bullet hits the vital organs, the animal will eventually die, all you have to do is learn how to put the bullet in the right spot.
BTW I saw that rifle for $350 dollars with rebate, the link is below, in case it's cheaper than the one you wanna buy
https://www.cdnnsports.com/firearms.html#manufacturer=SAVAGE&price_sale=449,450
Post by: OLYTAX on October 04, 2017, 02:31:00 PM
I even hunted Africa and most Canadian provinces plus Alaska with my 300 WSM.
The animal doesn't know that he's being shot with a 243 or a 30 caliber, its all bullet placement and bullet construction.
Post by: TimBaleia on October 04, 2017, 02:37:05 PM
than i have a difficulty to choose between short action and long action.
308 or 270 or 30-06?
270win? anyone? :)
Thank you guys!
Post by: Bob33 on October 04, 2017, 02:48:06 PM
6.5 CM we can set a side as its more expensive than other cartridges.FYI the 270 and 30-06 use the same case which means they have essentially the same powder capacity and effectively the same energy. The 270 shoots a lighter bullet faster.
than i have a difficulty to choose between short action and long action.
308 or 270 or 30-06?
270win? anyone? :)
Thank you guys!
The 308 is a smaller case which means less powder, less energy, and less recoil.
All three are very common calibers and would work well on big game at reasonable distances.
Post by: Stein on October 04, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
6.5 CM we can set a side as its more expensive than other cartridges.
than i have a difficulty to choose between short action and long action.
308 or 270 or 30-06?
270win? anyone? :)
Thank you guys!
Pick one and go hunting.
Post by: N7XW on October 04, 2017, 04:45:46 PM
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on October 08, 2017, 09:58:22 AM
I shoot a 7mm Rem Mag accurately out to 400 yards, that's my distance comfort.
That said, I mostly hunt deer and elk with a .338 Win Mag.
If I were to recommend a single cartridge for north American big game it would be the .280.
Range, recoil, bullet selection, performance, hands down the best selection.
While not as popular as the .270, it is all that and more and outperforms the 06 it long range.
It has mild recoil and outperforms the .308.
I received a beat up Savage 110 as a gift about 6 years ago.
The rifle was beat to h$#@ so I had a synthetic stock and Shilon barrel installed.
Also, the gunsmith worked the trigger a bit.
This rifle is now my sons' and it shots lights out with an old 2x7 Vari-x-II.
The other option is the .280 Ackley Improved (.280 AI).
Post by: JLS on October 08, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
6.5 CM we can set a side as its more expensive than other cartridges.
than i have a difficulty to choose between short action and long action.
308 or 270 or 30-06?
270win? anyone? :)
Thank you guys!
If you are going to reload the price factor of 6.5 CM ammo is greatly negated. I can load it as cheap as anything.
Long action vs. short action depends on how heavy of a rifle you want to carry. Typically long action rifles have 24-26" barrels, whereas short actions will have 20-22" barrels. Weight and handling will largely dictate your personal preference, along with what you desire for performance.
All that said, for an all around gun to 500-600 yards, I'd look pretty hard at the 6.5, 7-08, 280/280 AI. Both the .264 and .284 bullets have very good external ballistics downrange. If you compare them to the .30 bullets you'll be surprised at how well the retain velocity past 400 yards. My 6.5 is shooting 2880 at the muzzle, and based on BC and bullet weight, it is still at 2080 fps at 500 yards.
Edit: I left out magnum chamberings because I like short action/lightweight rifles and immensely dislike recoil
Post by: Bill W on October 08, 2017, 01:13:50 PM
Post by: TimBaleia on October 09, 2017, 07:44:59 AM
I think im puzzled between 7mm rem mag and 300 win mag.
One of this should do the trick. Seems that both calibers are widely available.
Both can be reloaded fairly cheap. Both have plenty of killing/stopping power and will take down anything in North America with good shot placement.
Will have a trip to Idaho for 3 days this week. Will chat with my hunting buddies. Hopefully will get the rifle in 2018 and will thing thru everything again.
Thank you for great opinions!
Post by: JLS on October 09, 2017, 08:15:39 AM
Thank you all guys for all your comments and suggestions!
I think im puzzled between 7mm rem mag and 300 win mag.
One of this should do the trick. Seems that both calibers are widely available.
Both can be reloaded fairly cheap. Both have plenty of killing/stopping power and will take down anything in North America with good shot placement.
Will have a trip to Idaho for 3 days this week. Will chat with my hunting buddies. Hopefully will get the rifle in 2018 and will thing thru everything again.
Thank you for great opinions!
Yes, very similar between the 7 mag and 300 mag. A 7 mag shooting the same weight bullets as a 300 will perform better balistically at long range because of better BC. A 300 will give more frontal diameter and make a bigger hole.
There is no free lunch, and it's a constant trade off between weight and handling, recoil, muzzle velocity, wind drift, etc.
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on October 09, 2017, 09:15:30 AM
One of the stupidest things that I did was sell my .270 that I grew up shooting. The .270 is a great round that is fully capable of taking any north american big game although just about everything you listed will.
If I were in your situation I would take a good look at a .270, .30-06 and the 7mm rem mag. These three would be great choices, although there are many others you could choose. I think your on the right track, just go find a gun you like and make sure it fits you well. You may want to look at Tikka's you get a lot of gun for your money and I believe your better off spending more and use the buy once cry once mentality on a gun since its a tool that should last your lifetime.
Post by: TimBaleia on October 09, 2017, 03:41:30 PM
Currently I'm shooting a 7mm rem mag (custom rem 700 built from a blueprinted action) and have a 150gr accubond long range load that is coming out my gun right at 3120 fps. I selected this gun as a good deer/elk/black bear combo and with this bullet and load I don't feel the need to change what I am shooting depending on the game I am going after.
One of the stupidest things that I did was sell my .270 that I grew up shooting. The .270 is a great round that is fully capable of taking any north american big game although just about everything you listed will.
If I were in your situation I would take a good look at a .270, .30-06 and the 7mm rem mag. These three would be great choices, although there are many others you could choose. I think your on the right track, just go find a gun you like and make sure it fits you well. You may want to look at Tikka's you get a lot of gun for your money and I believe your better off spending more and use the buy once cry once mentality on a gun since its a tool that should last your lifetime.
Great comment! Thank you for your suggestion on Tikka
Post by: bobcat on October 09, 2017, 03:44:51 PM
Post by: Oldguy on October 09, 2017, 04:01:39 PM
Tikkas are good rifles, but light. I would recommend that if you get a Tikka, go with the 270 or 308. A magnum cartridge in a Tikka is not a good combination for a beginner.
This is good advice. I sighted in a Tikka 7mm mag and then a Browning A-Bolt 7mm mag and there was a vast difference. Could have shot the Browning with a wood stock all day but the Tikka with a light stock was punishing to say the least. Great caliber.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on October 09, 2017, 04:04:33 PM
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Post by: huntnphool on October 09, 2017, 08:48:50 PM
7mm is ghastly overrated. I would avoid it. Go with 300 WM.
:chuckle:
Post by: slm9s on October 09, 2017, 09:02:16 PM
Please don't get a magnum as your first rifle. It might work out fine, but you'll have more fun practicing without one, and that will lead to more practice and make you a better shot.
Post by: blackpowderhunter on October 11, 2017, 07:19:35 AM
there are factory 180 grain loads will carry 1500 ft-lbs of energy out to 500 yards.
you can shoot lighter loads for less recoil when starting out or smaller deer and have some pretty potent rounds with a plethora of choices of factory loaded premium 180 grain bullets available all over the counter at most stores.
whatever you end up with, practice, practice, practice :tup:
Post by: lokidog on October 11, 2017, 08:54:11 AM
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Post by: TimBaleia on October 15, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
Just came back from my hunting trip to Idaho. Got my first deer!
I think i will end up with one rifle for mid range and later on if descide to do so with another one for long range.
Was impressed with Ruger M77 Mark II in 270 win. nice rifle.
Also start looking into smaller calibers like .270 win and 7mm -08. Light fast flying bullets. Shooting flat. Ammo available on gas stations etc.
Post by: bman940 on October 15, 2017, 09:53:42 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on October 15, 2017, 10:13:21 AM
You can always pick up a bigger caliber at a later time should you feel the need.
Post by: TimBaleia on November 05, 2017, 09:43:51 AM
I end up buying Savage 11/111 Trophy Hunter XP with cheap 3-9x40 Nikon BDC scope as a combo in .270 win at Cabela's. After rebate out of the pocket its 470$. Great deal IMHO. Later on will throw better scope and rings on it. But for now should be more than enough.
Thank you all and good luck! )
Post by: bman940 on November 05, 2017, 09:51:33 AM
Post by: TimBaleia on November 05, 2017, 10:04:12 AM
Dialing in the BDC reticle with Spot On was a piece of cake.
How do you like Nikon scopes in general? Is it worth to spend 500-600$ for a good Nikon scope or its better to invest this money into Leupold or other brand?
I had professional DSLR Nikon cameras with Nikkor Lenses and was happy with quality of the glass.
Also i personally like the Idea of BDC but never used it. Will try it out next week.
Thx.
Post by: Tiger1358 on November 05, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
Dialing in the BDC reticle with Spot On was a piece of cake.
How do you like Nikon scopes in general? Is it worth to spend 500-600$ for a good Nikon scope or its better to invest this money into Leupold or other brand?
I had professional DSLR Nikon cameras with Nikkor Lenses and was happy with quality of the glass.
Also i personally like the Idea of BDC but never used it. Will try it out next week.
Thx.
Don't think it's worth to spend around 600 dollar on Nikon. You can find Prostaff 5's 4-16x for about 200 on sale. For $600 you can buy German glass on sale, like Steiner.
Post by: runamuk on November 05, 2017, 11:38:25 AM
Dialing in the BDC reticle with Spot On was a piece of cake.
How do you like Nikon scopes in general? Is it worth to spend 500-600$ for a good Nikon scope or its better to invest this money into Leupold or other brand?
I had professional DSLR Nikon cameras with Nikkor Lenses and was happy with quality of the glass.
Also i personally like the Idea of BDC but never used it. Will try it out next week.
Thx.
I love Nikon I have a prostaff on one rifle, that was 169. I decided to try a buckmaster for 139 liked it so much I bought another for my other rifle.
Post by: fishingnut71 on November 05, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 07, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
I have the Savage 16 (the stainless version of the model 11, as far as I'm aware) in 7mm-08 and absolutely love it. I trust it out to about 600 yds based on the ballistics of the ELD-X factory ammo. I trust myself out to about 350 yds at the moment. More practice will extend that, but after watching elk for a couple years now, I don't feel like I'll want (nevermind "need") a longer range caliber anytime soon. 600 yds is a hell of a long way, and in my area at least, it's hard to imagine having a shot at 700 yds without the ability to get closer.
Post by: yakimanoob on November 07, 2017, 03:39:07 PM
Dialing in the BDC reticle with Spot On was a piece of cake.
How do you like Nikon scopes in general? Is it worth to spend 500-600$ for a good Nikon scope or its better to invest this money into Leupold or other brand?
I had professional DSLR Nikon cameras with Nikkor Lenses and was happy with quality of the glass.
Also i personally like the Idea of BDC but never used it. Will try it out next week.
Thx.
I was in the same boat (I've had Nikon cameras and lenses for year and love them) and ended up putting a ProStaff 5 2.5-10x40mm scope on my model 16. That said, I wouldn't do it again. Hunting is hard on gear, and the no-questions-asked warranties of companies like Leupold and Vortex have become more and more valuable to me. Next optic I buy will be from one of them, guaranteed.
Post by: JeffRaines on November 08, 2017, 12:01:54 AM
Dialing in the BDC reticle with Spot On was a piece of cake.
How do you like Nikon scopes in general? Is it worth to spend 500-600$ for a good Nikon scope or its better to invest this money into Leupold or other brand?
I had professional DSLR Nikon cameras with Nikkor Lenses and was happy with quality of the glass.
Also i personally like the Idea of BDC but never used it. Will try it out next week.
Thx.
I was in the same boat (I've had Nikon cameras and lenses for year and love them) and ended up putting a ProStaff 5 2.5-10x40mm scope on my model 16. That said, I wouldn't do it again. Hunting is hard on gear, and the no-questions-asked warranties of companies like Leupold and Vortex have become more and more valuable to me. Next optic I buy will be from one of them, guaranteed.
This is just my experience, and not wanting to completely dump on Leupold BUT...
I ended up purchasing one not long ago, after having some good luck with one on my wifes rifle. Out of the box, reticle was loose. It was slight, didn't notice it until I had it leveled on the rifle I was mounting it on. Called up Leupold, explained my situation and was told that it would be a minimum of three weeks... wait - three weeks? You mean the scope I just bought and took out of the box you're going to make me wait at least three weeks to get it fixed? Yep.
Look, I don't expect a company to completely bend over backwards. If I had the scope a year, hey it happens, you send it in for warranty and if it takes three weeks well thats okay. If I buy an item and it comes broken out of the box, then I expect it to be made right.
Anyway, I ended up getting sportsmans to take it back and exchanged it for a scope of a different brand. I wrote a review on Leupolds website and wouldn't you know it, I get an email stating it was moderated off. Funny, I don't think there is a 1-2 or even 3 star review anywhere on their website... wonder why...
edit - before it comes up, I have a really nice Cornwell torque driver that I use to torque all the fasteners so it isn't an issue of over-torquing the rings.
Post by: Ziptie on November 08, 2017, 09:25:46 AM
Post by: TimBaleia on November 08, 2017, 01:20:46 PM
Is it any good for deer? Heard different oppinions.
Post by: fish vacuum on November 08, 2017, 02:56:41 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 10, 2017, 11:31:26 AM
This is just my experience, and not wanting to completely dump on Leupold BUT...
I ended up purchasing one not long ago, after having some good luck with one on my wifes rifle. Out of the box, reticle was loose. It was slight, didn't notice it until I had it leveled on the rifle I was mounting it on. Called up Leupold, explained my situation and was told that it would be a minimum of three weeks... wait - three weeks? You mean the scope I just bought and took out of the box you're going to make me wait at least three weeks to get it fixed? Yep.
Look, I don't expect a company to completely bend over backwards. If I had the scope a year, hey it happens, you send it in for warranty and if it takes three weeks well thats okay. If I buy an item and it comes broken out of the box, then I expect it to be made right.
Anyway, I ended up getting sportsmans to take it back and exchanged it for a scope of a different brand. I wrote a review on Leupolds website and wouldn't you know it, I get an email stating it was moderated off. Funny, I don't think there is a 1-2 or even 3 star review anywhere on their website... wonder why...
edit - before it comes up, I have a really nice Cornwell torque driver that I use to torque all the fasteners so it isn't an issue of over-torquing the rings.
It sounds like your only complaint is the turn-around time, so while I'm not sure what your negative review said, it wasn't a complaint about the product (or the comany's willingness to stand behind the product) so I'm not surprised they took it down. Being dissatisfied with turn-around time is hardly a criticism.
You got it from Sportsmans Warehouse? A defective product off the shelf is something they would (and sounds like they did) remedy immediately.