Post by: Camo on October 12, 2017, 12:04:26 AM
The issue I am having with this model is the clearance on the inside of the tire. On the front, is the 5/8" clearance to the drive assembly, the rear is the 1" clearance to the brake fluid line and the TPS wiring harness. I have an option to change wheel and tire configurations that should give me an additional 1/2" clearance on the inside which I hope will allow me to use a light duty chain, (as opposed to a V-Bar truck chain), at a significant additional cost to the new truck.
I hope most are smarter than me and consider this before purchasing, if not, please let this be informative, if you consider snow chains as an integral part of your transportation system. With all the new technological advancements in the current truck inventory, it might be wise to consider this with all manufacturers, if chains are a consideration for you.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 12, 2017, 12:18:23 AM
One other thing you wont like - that button that says “4 lock” doesnt. It just increases clutch pack pressure in transfer case. If on hill on ice in park and or ebrake on will only act on rear tires even in 4-lock. Sometimes rear wheels only locked vehicle wants to slide if on hill on ice.
Overall great rigs just couple offroad issues.
Post by: BNAElkhntr on October 12, 2017, 06:58:53 AM
Post by: castnblast on October 12, 2017, 07:24:21 AM
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Post by: Camo on October 12, 2017, 10:32:19 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 12, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
Most manufacturers don't suggest using tire chains on anything. Ford has published limits too. Mostly it's due to wheel size. This is out of a 2013 F150 Owner's Manual.
Quote
USING SNOW CHAINS
WARNING: Snow tires must be the same size, load index, speed
rating as those originally provided by Ford. Use of any tire or
wheel not recommended by Ford can affect the safety and performance
of your vehicle, which could result in an increased risk of loss of vehicle
control, vehicle rollover, personal injury and death. Additionally, the use
of non-recommended tires and wheels could cause steering, suspension,
axle, transfer case or power transfer unit failure.
Note: The suspension insulation and bumpers will help prevent vehicle
damage. Do not remove these components from your vehicle when using
snow tires and chains.
Note: Do not place chains on the following tires sizes: P265/60R18,
P275/65R18, LT275/65R18, LT315/70R17, P275/55R20, and P275/45R22.
The tires on your vehicle have all-weather treads to provide traction in
rain and snow. However, in some climates, you may need to use snow
tires and chains. If you need to use chains, it is recommended that steel
wheels (of the same size and specifications) be used, as chains may chip
aluminum wheels.
Follow these guidelines when using snow tires and chains:
• If possible, avoid fully loading your vehicle.
• Use only SAE Class S chains.
• Install chains securely, verifying that the chains do not touch any
wiring, brake lines or fuel lines.
• Drive cautiously. If you hear the chains rub or bang against your
vehicle, stop and retighten the chains. If this does not work, remove
the chains to prevent damage to your vehicle.
• Remove the tire chains when they are no longer needed. Do not use
tire chains on dry roads.
380 Wheels and Tires
2013 F-150 (f12)
Owners Guide gf, 3rd Printing, February 2013
USA (fus)
Post by: Special T on October 12, 2017, 12:41:50 PM
All the more reason to stick with 16&17" tires on a pickup truck IMO.
Post by: thinkingman on October 12, 2017, 08:14:51 PM
Post by: 724wd on October 12, 2017, 08:25:56 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 12, 2017, 08:32:01 PM
Post by: BNAElkhntr on October 12, 2017, 08:50:01 PM
Ive never had to chain the fronts. I weigh down the bed with 500+ pounds, and just chain the rears. The only time I came close to it was going over stampede pass for rifle elk about 12 years ago.
It aint the snow we chain for its the mud up to your knees!
Post by: Skillet on October 12, 2017, 08:53:25 PM
Who's designing this crap, anyway? And who are they designing it for? The fact a full size 4x4 can be sold without being able to accommodate front axle chains, but must be sold with 19+/- cupholders and heated leather seats & steering wheel is further evidence of the wussification of the modern man, imho.
:bash:
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 12, 2017, 08:59:31 PM
Ive never had to chain the fronts. I weigh down the bed with 500+ pounds, and just chain the rears. The only time I came close to it was going over stampede pass for rifle elk about 12 years ago.Problem on new rigs is the antilock braking - with only chains on the rear when the fronts without chains start to skid/lockup the system releases the brakes all around so you are pumping or pushing the pedal but all four wheels just keep rolling !
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 12, 2017, 09:02:11 PM
Appreciate the responses, I'll look into the spacers. Magnum Willy, thanks for the info on the 4x lock. That could get a bit precarious in the wrong spot?
I have to carry a short stick in the winter when I get out to get my mail - jam stick between base of seat and brake pedal - otherwise rig just starts sliding down the hill !!!!!!
Post by: Camo on October 13, 2017, 07:21:06 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 13, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
MW, what size spacer are you running?
2004 and Newer Dodge RAM 5-Lug 1 3/4" Thick
www.wheeladapter.com
Any thinner and I would have to trim my studs. I had alloy 20" wheels originally. Maybe steel wheels had shorter studs probably ? I wanted at least an inch anyway.
Post by: Camo on October 13, 2017, 08:37:34 PM
Post by: WA hunter14 on October 13, 2017, 09:39:54 PM
Ive never had to chain the fronts. I weigh down the bed with 500+ pounds, and just chain the rears. The only time I came close to it was going over stampede pass for rifle elk about 12 years ago.
Then you have never driven in deep snow on steep roads.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 13, 2017, 10:04:16 PM
Thanks, I talked to a 4x shop today that recommended 1-1/2" to clear the studs, but may not know for sure until I pull a wheel. Did that give you enough clearance to comfortably run a full size chain (LeClede v-bar cam for instance)on the front, or are you running something milder?
I went with quick-fit rectangular links ( that I had used on the rear without spacers ) - chain/cable hybrid - for the front and put spacers on the rear to run full size v-bar truck chains on the rear.
not sure about clearance for full size up front. will look this next week when I mount spacers up again for hunting.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 13, 2017, 10:14:06 PM
Ive never had to chain the fronts. I weigh down the bed with 500+ pounds, and just chain the rears. The only time I came close to it was going over stampede pass for rifle elk about 12 years ago.
Then you have never driven in deep snow on steep roads.
Its the ice on steep roads that worries me not the depth.
Post by: Crunchy on October 14, 2017, 12:02:31 AM
Ive never had to chain the fronts. I weigh down the bed with 500+ pounds, and just chain the rears. The only time I came close to it was going over stampede pass for rifle elk about 12 years ago.
Then you have never driven in deep snow on steep roads.
Haha that is funny. Lived 4 years in N. Dakota so I know about snow, deep snow although not many steep roads. Out here, Ive been up in the mountains hunting with a foot of fresh snow. Not sure if that is deep snow to you or not but plenty steep roads. I know what to drive down, and what not to drive down.
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 14, 2017, 12:58:24 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on October 17, 2017, 10:29:23 AM