Post by: ryan13 on October 16, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
Post by: skidynastar33 on October 16, 2017, 01:08:11 PM
Post by: ryan13 on October 16, 2017, 01:14:04 PM
Post by: Southpole on October 16, 2017, 01:14:39 PM
Post by: Alchase on October 16, 2017, 02:29:47 PM
just gotta get off the beaten path, ive hunted it for the last decade, never seen more than 5 or 6 hunters working the area that i do.
:yeah:
Post by: Fungunnin on October 16, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
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Post by: blacktailer on October 16, 2017, 03:18:54 PM
Post by: Alchase on October 16, 2017, 03:26:05 PM
Let me guess: Everyone hunting the burns looking for "The Tripod Buck II"
Even if they were, that burn goes for miles, LOL
Post by: boneaddict on October 16, 2017, 03:54:14 PM
Post by: Cervid on October 16, 2017, 04:43:14 PM
Post by: kirkl on October 16, 2017, 07:44:07 PM
Post by: Cervid on October 16, 2017, 08:05:57 PM
We been hunting perrgyn and not seeing hardly anything. I’m just hunting for a whitetail doe.
Saw one at Rendezvous yesterday.
Post by: Southpole on October 16, 2017, 08:09:16 PM
Post by: kirkl on October 16, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: meat hntr78 on October 16, 2017, 08:23:39 PM
The whole Methow/Okanogan valley is a shadow of it's former self... for at least 10 or more years :'(during archery season one weekend didn't see anything in the National Forest even drove from Mazamany to Buck lake just after dark and didn't even see a deer.
Post by: Mtn.Ghost on October 17, 2017, 05:23:27 AM
Post by: Cervid on October 17, 2017, 05:59:19 AM
Hunted 6 days of archery season from fawn creek to beaver creek and everything in-between party of 4 hunted hard in all directions. Between us we saw a total of 4 deer (no shooters) that weren't leaning up against houses in town. Took a shot on a masher black bear (cinnamon) easy 400#'er and was deflected :bash: All in all good time hunting but bad times for the deer. Been hunting there for 30+ yrs and it sure isn't what it used to be sadly. Nothing at all in pearrygin :(
Think I'm going back this weekend to shoot coyotes, would you be willing to expand on the location of that bear via PM?
Post by: meat hntr78 on October 17, 2017, 06:09:58 AM
The whole Methow/Okanogan valley is a shadow of it's former self... for at least 10 or more years :'(during archery season one weekend didn't see anything in the National Forest except for Mountain bikers . :bash:even drove from Mazama to Buck lake just after dark and didn't even see a deer.
Post by: trophyhunt on October 17, 2017, 06:13:18 AM
Post by: Cervid on October 17, 2017, 10:00:28 AM
Your guys must be talking about the nile, bethal , and bumping area?? The deer population sucks there as well.
I think most muley numbers are down. I started a thread asking about where the healthy herds are and I didn't get an answer, just people saying how bad it is. Maybe people don't want to tell though.
Post by: bullcanyon on October 17, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 17, 2017, 09:06:23 PM
Your guys must be talking about the nile, bethal , and bumping area?? The deer population sucks there as well.
I think most muley numbers are down. I started a thread asking about where the healthy herds are and I didn't get an answer, just people saying how bad it is. Maybe people don't want to tell though.
This is because the muley herds are not doing that good anywhere in WA ST. :twocents:
Post by: r5neum on October 17, 2017, 09:16:56 PM
Post by: Fungunnin on October 17, 2017, 09:33:55 PM
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on October 17, 2017, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: timberfaller on October 17, 2017, 10:07:59 PM
As I posted elsewhere here on HW, "common sense" is not part of the WFWD.
Post by: Cervid on October 17, 2017, 10:56:11 PM
I remember reading various "news" paper articles after the big slaughter of 2015, where the WFWD claimed their "three point and better" program was working! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Especially in the Methow Valley and it was going to "continue on" the next season :o
As I posted elsewhere here on HW, "common sense" is not part of the WFWD.
Yeah no kidding. Common sense would tell them not to hand out over 1000 doe tags in one season.
Post by: bigmacc on October 24, 2017, 08:52:14 PM
Post by: wolfbait on October 25, 2017, 12:48:09 AM
I wonder if Fitkin will do his usual write up in the local paper-"for the amount of hunters that showed up, hunting was a great success".
Post by: Southpole on October 25, 2017, 08:16:01 AM
Just got back, spent 10 days in the Methow, hunted 224 for a couple days with my granddaughters among hitting other haunts from the valley floor to 6500 feet. The absolute worst I've seen as deer numbers go (few and far between) and the absolute worst I,ve seen as hunter numbers and hunter ethics(people everywhere and a lot being disrespectful to others). We went into old haunts to get away from orange but once again, deer numbers in the Methow are the worst I have ever seen. Still, the experience of hunting with my Granddaughters and showing them some old spots and sharing family history made the trip a success. As I said, worst deer numbers I have ever seen, some of us have been singing the song of the Methow decline for awhile now, I think a lot of folks now agree. In a nutshell, very few deer(as far as what we see even on a slow year!) We seen 3 cougars, shot at one at about 500 yards as it was bounding through a rock slide, a friend saw another and we ran into a fella that killed one with a radio collar around its neck and oh ya, the one we shot at had a collar on it also! We talked to some rancher buddies we know who said "don't be to riled up over bears and yotes, these cats are everywhere, they are wiping out deer". We ran into 3 different bears that we busted and could not get clean shots at. We seen 11 yotes and killed 6, we found over 30 winter kills in 3 different areas and found 7 cougar kills that were cached away. Its bad, bad,bad folks. Deer numbers are down, predator numbers are up and my prediction of 5 to 10 years for this herd to have a chance to possibly resemble a recovery may be way,way off. Fish and Wldlife(I refuse to call them the the Game Dept) seem to be putting a lot of effort into collaring cats, wolves and bears and putting a special effort into their well being while the Methow mule deer herd crumbles.I have felt there is an agenda behind it all... that's all I'm going to say about that.
Post by: ElkHunterForLife on October 25, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
1.) Loss of Habitat/Winter Range feed to housing and to people who want there own little piece of heaven!
2.) Zero management of our predators since they banned hounds/bait when I was back in Middle school so many years ago! Instead they decide we need to increase our predators with the non-native Wolves and Grizzly bears that we already have it's just that our ecosystem can't support them.
3.) Not enough natural growing feed for our herds of deer or elk.
Fish and Wildlife which is run by our politicians that love to run things into the ground! They screwed us over royally and yet we keep on spending our money on less and less opportunities in our "Great State of Washington".
Sorry had to vent! Washington has amazing potential which we will never see!
Just got back from Pearrygin on Monday 23rd. First of all hunters need to show more respect to each other! For instance I wake up at 400am everyday get to my spot about a half hour before shooting and sit and wait for the deer to start moving when ever I see a flashlight I go the opposite way and try to stay away from the orange dots by at least 300 yards or more. I go to the same spot every year and usually run into the same guys from years past which are understand hunter etiquette . This year had some local bird hunters come through with there dog hunting for grouse where I usually hunt. They have until December 31st to hunt grouse and they couldn't wait until the deer season is over.
My report is I saw 9 Muley Does and 1 buck a 3x3 plus eye guards which I shot in self defense because some hunter scared it my way. It ran by me at less than 10 feet away. I squealed my lips at him he stopped broadside less than 10 yards and bang he was down! I had 2nd Whitetail Doe tag I was trying to fill and I had a chance on Whitetail Doe of a whopping 120 pounds live weight! I have several public land Pearrygin areas for Whitetails and got one 3 years ago when I was drawn for the 2nd deer tag. This year the Whitetails were non existent I saw a young Whitetail Doe with twin fawns and a younger Doe all by herself. I usually see 8-10 Whitetail Does in each of my places. There's only 15 of the 2nd Whitetail Doe tags so where are all the Whitetails going too!
Went out in the snow and very few tracks! Saw 5 Muley Does in the Safety Zone which back when I was a kid remember 60-80 Muley's in the Safety Zone when the snow came!
Post by: timberfaller on October 25, 2017, 10:53:49 AM
Post by: bigmacc on October 26, 2017, 12:19:21 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 26, 2017, 12:24:12 PM
Post by: bigmacc on October 26, 2017, 12:33:52 PM
Well at the rate the state is going we wont have to worry about killing the best or biggest and it will just be an outdoor experience.
I wish I could tell you that your dead wrong. :'(
Post by: Southpole on October 26, 2017, 12:34:06 PM
Well at the rate the state is going we wont have to worry about killing the best or biggest and it will just be an outdoor experience.Bingo! That's the states' goal, except you won't be killing anything, you will just observe and take pictures.
Post by: Southpole on October 26, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
Post by: MADMAX on October 27, 2017, 05:09:14 AM
very sad
Camped on Ramsey, saw some does, not many in the woods
Mostly valley floor private land or in town
saw one good buck up near 20 mile, no chance at him
Hunters everywhere, few deer taken
sucks
Post by: bigmacc on October 27, 2017, 10:10:03 AM
Post by: no.cen.wa on October 27, 2017, 10:13:46 AM
John G.