Post by: lokidog on October 18, 2017, 09:03:22 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on October 18, 2017, 09:05:40 PM
Post by: Seahawk12 on October 18, 2017, 09:08:45 PM
Cleanliness.
It's mostly to make absolutely sure every piece of hair or dirt is cleaned off.
That is why I do it anyways.
It only takes a few minutes and it's not like you wash away the flavor.
I see benefits with no downside.
Post by: Timberstalker on October 18, 2017, 09:11:11 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 18, 2017, 09:16:35 PM
I don't do it, however if you've ever seen a mobile butcher, they always hose off the beef and pig carcasses.
I can see this, but I know exactly where my deer has been and how carefully it has been skinned.
Post by: Antlershed on October 18, 2017, 09:18:52 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 18, 2017, 09:22:10 PM
Never used a hose, but always used some water and a rag to wipe it down to get the hair off.
Why is there that much hair? My deer I just butchered probably had less than 50 hairs on it and only at the split pelvis and along the chest, leg and neck cuts. Ninety percent of that comes off when cleaning the connective tissue layers off of the muscles.
Post by: dscubame on October 18, 2017, 09:24:46 PM
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 18, 2017, 09:26:20 PM
I usually just pick off the fee hairs after everything has dried or when doing the final processing.
I did use a water bottle and washcloth for a very stinky speed goat buck once.
Post by: dscubame on October 18, 2017, 09:27:16 PM
I don't do it, however if you've ever seen a mobile butcher, they always hose off the beef and pig carcasses.
I can see this, but I know exactly where my deer has been and how carefully it has been skinned.
:kneel:
Post by: Dan-o on October 18, 2017, 09:28:36 PM
I've probably skinned 23-25 elk, and around 30 deer. Seems I still make a mess. I always bring them to the creek and just clean them up.
I also like the thought of the creek water taking a lot of heat out - especially for elk.
I admire guys who can skin like that, by the way. I just didn't get the gift......
Post by: KFhunter on October 18, 2017, 09:28:57 PM
get a few hairs off, 50 is a lot of hair in my book
I spray the hogs too before and after, actually pressure wash them before and rinse after.
every butcher I've seen do an on the farm butcher sprays down the carcass, so it's something I've always done too
Post by: Mfowl on October 18, 2017, 09:29:21 PM
Post by: lokidog on October 18, 2017, 09:31:46 PM
I spray it, get some of the blood shot off. If I can spray it and see if it's really blood shot or just bloody it might save a bit of meat.
get a few hairs off, 50 is a lot of hair in my book
I spray the hogs too before and after, actually pressure wash them before and rinse after.
every butcher I've seen do an on the farm butcher sprays down the carcass, so it's something I've always done too
I was actually giving a larger number than I think are actually there as I didn't want to seem unrealistic. ;) :chuckle:
Post by: Smokepole on October 18, 2017, 09:51:02 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 18, 2017, 11:30:16 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 18, 2017, 11:38:10 PM
I do.
Cleanliness.
It's mostly to make absolutely sure every piece of hair or dirt is cleaned off.
That is why I do it anyways.
It only takes a few minutes and it's not like you wash away the flavor.
I see benefits with no downside.
:yeah:
I don't leave them hanging wet though. I take towels and wipe them dry afterword.
Post by: Shoofly09 on October 18, 2017, 11:42:53 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 18, 2017, 11:43:49 PM
Post by: luckyman on October 19, 2017, 05:05:45 AM
Post by: Buckewe on October 19, 2017, 05:40:01 AM
Post by: Lincoln4 on October 19, 2017, 06:58:32 AM
Seriously though, yes I do hose it down to clean up. Never had any issues.
Post by: snowshoes22 on October 19, 2017, 07:07:39 AM
Post by: Stein on October 19, 2017, 07:15:40 AM
Post by: boneaddict on October 19, 2017, 08:24:52 AM
Post by: JohnVH on October 19, 2017, 08:31:12 AM
Post by: JDHasty on October 19, 2017, 08:36:20 AM
I prefer to hang them dry and brush off any hair. Hosing them off is a last resort if things get really messy with a gut shot animal.
We will use the pressure washer on my toy hauler if the guts have been opened. If not I prefer to hang em up and dry and wipe the blood off with a towel (if there are many hairs I use a bone scraper or wad of burlap to whisk the hair off) before slipping a game bag over them.
Bone scraper:
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/dexter-russell-09303-bone-dust-scraper/35340692.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7qLmxoH91gIVgX5-Ch19fwHoEAQYASABEgKLzvD_BwE
Post by: PolarBear on October 19, 2017, 08:40:27 AM
Post by: KFhunter on October 19, 2017, 08:52:41 AM
I don't have a walk in cooler yet, any cooling I can get helps.
Post by: Bearhunter on October 19, 2017, 09:12:19 AM
Post by: C-Money on October 19, 2017, 09:19:46 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on October 19, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
Post by: elkboy on October 19, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
Post by: Mudman on October 19, 2017, 09:42:10 AM
Post by: lokidog on October 19, 2017, 07:07:15 PM
Post by: JDHasty on October 19, 2017, 07:10:17 PM
I almost always skin with the head up, maybe this keeps more hair off the meat? I'm also not sure where all of this "dirt" comes from? I dragged my gutted deer over a half mile this year and had no dirt on or in it, granted, it was not a huge buck, just a nubbin, but still....
This mirrors my experience
Post by: hunter399 on October 19, 2017, 07:29:39 PM
Post by: Pegasus on October 19, 2017, 07:46:44 PM
Post by: runningboard on October 19, 2017, 07:52:39 PM
Post by: JDHasty on October 19, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
we pull the hides off deer with it and never have to deal with more than a few hairs on the meat. If an animal's guts are open then it gets the pressure washer and vinegar before being rubbed down inside and out with an old bath towel and bagged. If it is hot weather we put ice into lawn bags and place it in and around the carcass and cover it with an old sleeping bag. If I could not get to ice I think I would debone meat, plastic bag it and put it in a creek
Post by: rasbo on October 19, 2017, 08:03:32 PM
Post by: Pegasus on October 19, 2017, 08:06:29 PM
I had a buddy give me a Deer Zipper years ago
Don't try that with a cold deer.
Post by: JDHasty on October 19, 2017, 08:11:18 PM
I had a buddy give me a Deer Zipper years ago
Don't try that with a cold deer.
Rips head or quarters right off and drags everything attached to the hide through the dirt. Friend tried it.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on October 19, 2017, 09:14:45 PM
Post by: luckyman on October 20, 2017, 06:13:48 PM
Post by: TheHunt on October 20, 2017, 06:37:45 PM
Post by: HuntnFishnRyan on October 20, 2017, 06:40:35 PM
My philosophy is this. Every situation is different. You don't always have a pickup truck right there with a meat locker just down the road to accept it right away. I will take whatever means necessary to keep that meat from spoiling. If I have to throw that meat in the creek to cool it off in September then that's what I'm gonna do. :twocents:
Post by: JDHasty on October 20, 2017, 07:05:58 PM
Had a conversation with my butcher about this. He said not to use water and if a hair was found on the meat then he picks it off with the knife instead of rinsing it off. He did mention vinegar if you needed to do a rinsing. His theory with rinsing with water is that it pushes the bacteria into the meat.
My philosophy is this. Every situation is different. You don't always have a pickup truck right there with a meat locker just down the road to accept it right away. I will take whatever means necessary to keep that meat from spoiling. If I have to throw that meat in the creek to cool it off in September then that's what I'm gonna do. :twocents:
That is why I avoid water unless guts are spilled. My first butcher was adamant about not using water unless necessary and if necessary then towel it off right away and I guess his council stuck all these years. He said the water absorbs heat and mixed with blood it is a breeding round that bacteria goes wild in. He a said that a wet bath towel followed up by a dry bath towel was what he preferred. But I have used a hose or the pressure washer on my toy hauler when available, then toweled it off after hanging and then bagging.
Post by: Alchase on October 23, 2017, 05:56:47 PM
I almost always skin with the head up, maybe this keeps more hair off the meat? I'm also not sure where all of this "dirt" comes from? I dragged my gutted deer over a half mile this year and had no dirt on or in it, granted, it was not a huge buck, just a nubbin, but still....
Always skin head up. All the hair lays flat towards the rump.
My first deer I did not know about skinning head up, I came home with so much hair and silver skin on me, my mom hosed me off before I could come in the house,
LOL
Post by: Alpine Mojo on October 23, 2017, 06:34:52 PM
Someone on Facebook is saying deer and elk should be rinsed with a hose
Well, if you read it on Facebook...
Post by: ghosthunter on October 23, 2017, 07:27:25 PM
My butcher told me to use a plastic scrubby to remove any hair.
Post by: The scout on October 23, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Post by: Longbow 58 on October 23, 2017, 07:48:33 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on October 24, 2017, 09:57:51 AM
I prefer to hang them dry and brush off any hair. Hosing them off is a last resort if things get really messy with a gut shot animal.Same
Post by: jagermiester on October 28, 2017, 07:30:30 AM