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Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: wa.hunter on October 29, 2017, 10:03:43 AM
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Just a new update....all should be happy with.
This week on Thursday there were an additional 51 antelope released to boost the current population of antelope in the Yakama Nation. Due to the wild fire issues in Nevada and lack of wintering ground, Nevada Department of Wildlife agreed to assist in giving us some additional antelope. So through the funding of Safari Club International (SCI) Sikar and 3 local SCI Chapters we took 18 volunteers down and 8 Yakama Nation bio's and captured, with the guidance of NDOW and their many biologist the capture of these additional animals.
Without a doubt NDOW is an excellent group to work with. Hopefully more animals to come next year or possibly this year. Mostly what we brought back were pregnant females with a couple of young bucks and 4 or 5 fawns. All of the adults have GPS collars and we will be able to track them for the next 3 years.
99% of the funding for this project has come from SCI, to this date and we hope to continue raising funds to see that this works out to be very successful.
WDFW was aware of what was going on and gave us their blessings also and assisted in making this happen.
So far the Seattle Puget Sound Chapter of SCI has invested over $100,000 to make this happen. The Central Washington Chapter of SCI in Yakima has laid most all of the ground work and the Northwest Chapter of SCI has also contributed, with all of the chapters supplying the volunteers to make this happen.
Also the Colville Nation brought in an additional 100 antelope. They have been handling their project totally on their own. Many thanks all go out to them.
Hope to see you at our FUND RAISERS this year as their are a lot of up coming events we need to raise funds for. Antelope and Mountain Goat of current projects.
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That is good news :tup:
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Excellent! Thanks for sharing.
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thats great to hear hope winter treats them well
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Well done all involved! :tup:
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Thank you foe the update!
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Awesome :tup:
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Thanks for the update, Joe!! Great work. Many thanks to all involved.
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Yay speed goats
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How fast do they multiply? Are they like Whitetails and repopulate fairly quick if the habitat is good?
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Awesome :tup:
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Great job to all involved... Amazing to see what can get accomplished when there is a lot less red tape. Doesn't sounds like much credit need be given to Wa Dept of F & W
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Got to see a good bunch of them recently, near Prosser, off the Rez. Very cool!
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:tup: Good news.
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Yes there is a little less red tape involved when working with the tribes. However this year WDFW actually funded the surveys which assisted in making this all possible. NDOW does need updates on how the herd is doing to move forward with more getting accomplished and make more captures possible. The Yakama Nation actually sent individuals down to NDOW commission meetings to secure these antelope also. We are all benefiting from what they have done.
Sorry I won't be able to keep you up dated on how they are doing for a month, as I will be off hunting with Montana antelope and deer tag, a 4th season Colorado deer tag then back to Nevada to do a elk hunt. Last month I was in Arizona shooting a 370+ elk with my muzzleloader. I also had a Nevada antelope tag but gave it back. Some years you just get lucky in the draws.
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One got in a fight with a car on 221.
It lost.
Small buck.
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Thanks for the update, Joe!! Great work. Many thanks to all involved.
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:yeah: Be sure also to let us know when the fundraisers are
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A update on additional antelope. So far they have dispersed into 7 different groups and have also joined up with some of the existing antelope that now inhabit the area. The GPS collars have made it a lot easier for them to be located and help find the other lopes. Of the 30 collars that were put on the adult females, 2 of them had died within the first 2 weeks, likely related to the trauma involved with the relocation. So far results look good and NDW feels the survival rate was excellent.
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That’s great news! :tup:
Even if there is never a season thier fun to watch. :twocents:
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Thanks for the update. It’s exciting to look out your window and seeing these in Washington. Have fun on your hunts.
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Thanks for the update. It’s exciting to look out your window and seeing these in Washington. Have fun on your hunts.
Agreed, I've long hoped for a release along the 90 corridor between Vantage and Spokane, just to give me something to look for/at on that boring stretch of highway.
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Positive news! Great to see all the various groups working together for wildlife! :tup:
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Tag
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Awesome.
I know a wheat farmer down there and he said the antelope are more numerous than deer now and he sees them almost every day. The way they are multiplying i could see a few permits being justified soon. If that money was dedicated to bringing more in that would be a win win.
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I think the jury is still out on "the way they are multiplying". If you drop off 90 pregnant does and 4-5 years later have 140ish head........ not sure that's a home run.
I'm not trying to be negative and don't know the exact numbers but like I said......I think the jury is still out. :twocents:
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Great share.
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Sorry I am not better at keeping you up to date.
I was over last week and had a few hours to look around. With 2 updates from the Bio at Yakama Nation based on the GPS collars we used, I was able to locate 3 different groups in fairly short time compared to what it use to take even though they were 15 miles apart. Of these 3 groups , one group of 23 had 5 GPS collars and another group of 30 had 1 GPS collar. The other group of 9 did not have a GPS collar. So in this general area there were 62 antelope. Then guess what, we found another group of 35 also no GPS collars. Total found in the release area seen, is now 97.
We have 30 GPS collars that we put out that are still functioning. I only found 6 of them. Understand the release takes place on the Tribal Lands and most are probably still there. These are the ones that were off of tribal lands when I was over . Things are looking very good.
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:tup: good to hear
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Very good news! :tup: Thanks for the update
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Sorry I am not better at keeping you up to date.
I was over last week and had a few hours to look around. With 2 updates from the Bio at Yakama Nation based on the GPS collars we used, I was able to locate 3 different groups in fairly short time compared to what it use to take even though they were 15 miles apart. Of these 3 groups , one group of 23 had 5 GPS collars and another group of 30 had 1 GPS collar. The other group of 9 did not have a GPS collar. So in this general area there were 62 antelope. Then guess what, we found another group of 35 also no GPS collars. Total found in the release area seen, is now 97.
We have 30 GPS collars that we put out that are still functioning. I only found 6 of them. Understand the release takes place on the Tribal Lands and most are probably still there. These are the ones that were off of tribal lands when I was over . Things are looking very good.
Great news, Joe. Thanks for the updates!
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Thanks for the update
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Antelope on the Cameron Lake Road in the Okanogan
https://www.facebook.com/groups/944925525573021/
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That facebook page is a closed group, so us outsiders cant see it
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We also have the Nevada Game and Fish agreeing to give us another 48 this winter. Just need to raise the needed funds again to make it happen. Probably $30-35,000. We have just about used up our SCI funds to keep this happening. We will be soliciting funds at our fundraiser on Feb. 24th in Lynnwood. You can always attend and come see the protesters protest what we do for wildlife.
Our event is posted on the events site . Seattle Sportsmen's Convention. Roughly it cost us $500/animal to do initial capture with a helicopter, $650/collar for one's we collar and approx. $175/month for GPS data on 30 collars over a 3 year period. Not cheap but has been well worth it. We personally transport the animals back at no cost, and most all of the work is done by us volunteers on the ground.
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Glad to hear this news!! :tup:
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That’s awesome.
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We also have the Nevada Game and Fish agreeing to give us another 48 this winter. Just need to raise the needed funds again to make it happen. Probably $30-35,000. We have just about used up our SCI funds to keep this happening. We will be soliciting funds at our fundraiser on Feb. 24th in Lynnwood. You can always attend and come see the protesters protest what we do for wildlife.
Our event is posted on the events site . Seattle Sportsmen's Convention. Roughly it cost us $500/animal to do initial capture with a helicopter, $650/collar for one's we collar and approx. $175/month for GPS data on 30 collars over a 3 year period. Not cheap but has been well worth it. We personally transport the animals back at no cost, and most all of the work is done by us volunteers on the ground.
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Great to hear.
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Awesome - I hope they take root and really start multiplying.
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On another note - and this is not to start a debate - but does anyone know if the Yakama Nation has a moratorium on Tribal Antelope Hunting? It seems as though they would, seeing how they funded some of this work.
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Pronghorn hunting not allowed according to the rules posted on their website:
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:tup:
Good information.
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*except by permit.
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*except by permit.
Lumped together. There's no hunting at all.
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The long term plan is to provide hunting opportunity via special permit. The other special permit species are mt goat, bighorn sheep and bison. But, we are always off from ANY hunting of antelope.
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:tup:
I wish you could snap your fingers and replace all the ponies with bison.
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I know. I heard they're having a meat shortage at the Olympic games. I got an idea to fill the void. :chuckle:
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How would a person donate if they weren't attending our banquet?
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Nice to read this, thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the update and Thank You SCI! Yes, please keep us posted on the Mt Goat project as well.
Will they ever open up the Mt Gardner Unit again for Mt Goats? ... hear there is an over abundance...
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What's a typical fawn survival in a healthy established herd?
Great news that numbers seem to be climbing.
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DONATIONS
Yes we will accept donation and they can be sent to the following address and checks should be made out to the following.
Seattle Sportsmen's Conservation Foundation
PO BOX 1900
Snoqualmie, WA. 98065
Any amount will be appreciated. However we will be also doing the following at our event, as I feel we should give you a reminder for what you have contributed to this effort. I will see to it that your contributions also receive the same.
$5000.00 donation will receive all 27 North American Grand Slam
Coins in .999 silver
$1000.00 donation will receive a .999 silver Pronghorn coin (NAGS) $500.00 donation will receive a silver plated Pronghorn coin "
$250.00 donation will receive a bronze Pronghorn coin "
These are very nice coins, hopefully all those that contribute put it away and when we make then easy for everyone to find one, they will know they also had a part in it.
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Pronghorn hunting not allowed according to the rules posted on their website:
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So from the way I am reading this they can't hunt antelope on the reservation, what about off of the res? Plat do you know the answer?
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*except by permit.
Lumped together. There's no hunting at all.
Pronghorn hunting not allowed according to the rules posted on their website:
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So from the way I am reading this they can't hunt antelope on the reservation, what about off of the res? Plat do you know the answer?
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Good deal! :tup:
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Out for a drive today and we found a group of 5 100 yards off the road. An unexpected and pleasant surprise!
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Nice!
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Antelope #10 is the proud momma of 2 new twins. :tup:
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Antelope #10 is the proud momma of 2 new twins. :tup:
Awesome. Let’s hope the coyotes give her a break.
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Great news!
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I saw a few off Omak lake road a few days in a row... really cool to watch. I stopped and glassed for a while :tup:
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Am I wrong to think that a successful antelope population will eventually head South toward and even to the Columbia? It would seem like a no brainer with the milder weather.
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My son and his Grandma saw a few on the way to Colfax yesterday...
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My son and his Grandma saw a few on the way to Colfax yesterday...
Interesting. I am not sure we have heard of any in that area? I wonder where they were from?
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Ya! I was pretty jealous. I have yet to see a WA Antelope. He was pretty excited to tell me about it on the phone.
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Am I wrong to think that a successful antelope population will eventually head South toward and even to the Columbia? It would seem like a no brainer with the milder weather.
It seems they are going to populate most of the open country the way they are dispersing. :tup:
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My son and his Grandma saw a few on the way to Colfax yesterday...
Interesting. I am not sure we have heard of any in that area? I wonder where they were from?
There was a few on Alpowa Ridge a few years ago. One had a collar. Came up from NE Oregon through Anatone. I can't remember all the details. I think @buglebuster or @Woodchuck saw them.
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In the last year I have seen them between Brewster and Malott on the Eastside of the river on the Colville Res, out towards Mansfield in the wheat fields, then 2 weeks ago on the West side of the Okanogan between Brewster and Twisp. Most I have seen at one time was 4, other times 2.
Hope they keep planting more! :tup:
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My son and his Grandma saw a few on the way to Colfax yesterday...
Interesting. I am not sure we have heard of any in that area? I wonder where they were from?
There was a few on Alpowa Ridge a few years ago. One had a collar. Came up from NE Oregon through Anatone. I can't remember all the details. I think @buglebuster or @Woodchuck saw them.
I did see them over there, was pretty cool. :tup:
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With all the available open habitat is there any worry of them spreading too far out and isolating populations? I'm no biologist but the spreading south to the Columbia comment got me kind of worried.
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With all the available open habitat is there any worry of them spreading too far out and isolating populations? I'm no biologist but the spreading south to the Columbia comment got me kind of worried.
@DOUBLELUNG could speak to any genetic worries therein but it would seem unlikely. If a group was big enough to establish itself, I imagine it’s big enough to provide genetic diversity
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My gut is that genetic diversity is going to be an issue....
The closest I've ever seen an antelope in WA to the Columbia River was probably a good 350-400 yards.
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Are there more plans to being additional in? Are the different phases of introduction coming from the same herd?
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Are there more plans to being additional in? Are the different phases of introduction coming from the same herd?
There are more coming. I'm not sure where from, but I think I can find out.
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I love seeing the pronghorn here in Washington. This spring I've been seeing a few around, including a few new fawns. I just never seem to have a camera with me.
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Currently the 2 plants we have done on the Yakama Nation land, the first group came from west of Elko and was believed that these lopes came from the North of there, the second group came from east of Elko and this group came from that area and possible Idaho. I believe we have good genes from these 2 areas and very different groups. We had an agreement with Nevada to return this year and bring back another 50 and release in same area on the Yakama. I am not sure what the Colville's plans are.
So far ours are doing very well and we have 30 with GPS collars and the baby fawns were hitting the ground a month ago. I have pics of a VERY BIG BUCK I, just hope he doesn't get poached. We have a $5000 reward for any poaching agreed as a payout for convictions here at the Seattle Puget Sound Chapter of SCI.
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Currently the 2 plants we have done on the Yakama Nation land, the first group came from west of Elko and was believed that these lopes came from the North of there, the second group came from east of Elko and this group came from that area and possible Idaho. I believe we have good genes from these 2 areas and very different groups. We had an agreement with Nevada to return this year and bring back another 50 and release in same area on the Yakama. I am not sure what the Colville's plans are.
So far ours are doing very well and we have 30 with GPS collars and the baby fawns were hitting the ground a month ago. I have pics of a VERY BIG BUCK I, just hope he doesn't get poached. We have a $5000 reward for any poaching agreed as a payout for convictions here at the Seattle Puget Sound Chapter of SCI.
Thank you!
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Talked to a guy from the Colville tribe and they are exchanging Turkey for antelope. Not sure about #s, but the process is in affect. I guess they are hanging in the grand coulee dam area. I go there a lot, but haven't seen any. Also heard they cross the river towards the Mansfield side.
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Sounds great. I'll have to try and make a trip over to try and find some.