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Title: Spring Bear BS
Post by: actionshooter on March 03, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
Whats up with these guys drawing a tag and then not hunting?  :bdid: I don't like seeing a ton of people in the woods but give the tags to people who will use them!!

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/harvest/2007/permits/bear.htm

 
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2009, 07:26:30 PM
I don't see a problem. I'm sure the WDFW already takes into account a certain percentage of hunters won't hunt, and they base the number of permits accordingly. If more people hunted, more bears would be killed and the number of permits would be reduced.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: catwithboost on March 03, 2009, 07:26:55 PM
I posted about this last year and got a ear full!!!!
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: actionshooter on March 03, 2009, 07:31:58 PM
I don't see a problem. I'm sure the WDFW already takes into account a certain percentage of hunters won't hunt, and they base the number of permits accordingly.

That not what I was told by a bio last year.
 They set tag numbers expecting that number of people to hunt, not to be succesfull, but to hunt.
 If they planned on a certain percentage to not participate and then everyone turned out, harvest numbers would be too high.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2009, 07:35:29 PM
You lost me with that. Sorry.   :dunno:

Sounds like you're disagreeing with your first sentence, then agreeing with the remainder of your post. 
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: bucklucky on March 03, 2009, 07:37:55 PM
You lost me with that. Sorry.   :dunno:

Sounds like you're disagreeing with your first sentence, then agreeing with the remainder of your post. 

You both lost me now  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: Wea300mag on March 03, 2009, 07:39:51 PM
I think it all comes down to those of us who would hunt like mad-men/women if given the chance but never get the chance because we can't get drawn.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2009, 07:40:13 PM
I think I'll go get a beer, then maybe this will all make sense.   :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: actionshooter on March 03, 2009, 07:41:03 PM
You lost me with that. Sorry.   :dunno:

Sounds like you're disagreeing with your first sentence, then agreeing with the remainder of your post. 
There I tried to clear it up a little, yes I disagree with you  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: actionshooter on March 03, 2009, 07:41:53 PM
I think it all comes down to those of us who would hunt like mad-men/women if given the chance but never get the chance because we can't get drawn.
Ya that too.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2009, 07:42:48 PM
I think it all comes down to those of us who would hunt like mad-men/women if given the chance but never get the chance because we can't get drawn.

I'll just be glad that many people (supposedly) do not even use their permits. That leaves more bears for us for when we DO finally draw.

I'm just not sure how accurate those statistics are. Some may just lie and say they didn't hunt, and other simply do not do a harvest report, whether succesful or not.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: actionshooter on March 03, 2009, 07:45:15 PM
I think it all comes down to those of us who would hunt like mad-men/women if given the chance but never get the chance because we can't get drawn.

I'll just be glad that many people (supposedly) do not even use their permits. That leaves more bears for us for when we DO finally draw.

I'm just not sure how accurate those statistics are. Some may just lie and say they didn't hunt, and other simply do not do a harvest report, whether succesful or not.
It looks like most do the harvest reports, probably to avoid a $10 fine. I hope people aren't giving false reports,as bad a WDFW is that would make things worse.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 04, 2009, 12:35:51 PM
Sure it sucks for those who put in for the draw and don't get selected but life happens and some may not have had the opportunity to get out for one reason or another and some don't report (guilty from last year). If there are X amount of tags given out, then X amount should report, some don't. My question is how can you have X amount given out and more than X people reporting? Are they just reporting for the wrong units?
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 04, 2009, 08:06:44 PM
PEOPLE LIE!  A lot of "sportsmen" believe that the WDFW uses input to make decisions on what to allow the "natives" to harvest just like (Salmon/steelhead) report cards. So they claim not to have hunted.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: PWN Kurt on March 04, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
yep.  Life happens and sometimes you don't get out when you plan too.  I'm still bitter about last elk season....
I mean, who plans a wedding on opening weekend?!
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: Gobble Gobble on March 05, 2009, 07:45:43 AM
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yep.  Life happens and sometimes you don't get out when you plan too.  I'm still bitter about last elk season....
I mean, who plans a wedding on opening weekend?!

Tell me about it! My dad is taking us four boys to Alaska fishing for 4 days with a buddy of his charter business. We leave the day after my wife and I anniversary (dodged that bullet) but my brother got his wife prego and she is due 4 days before we are supposed to leave. Sucks he isn't going now.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: luvtohnt on March 05, 2009, 07:54:35 AM
I will pretend to be your brother to go fishing in Alaska!!

Brandon
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: billythekidrock on March 11, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
This topic comes up every year and this is the third year here.  :IBCOOL:

Some people have issues that come up and keep them from hunting. In the past I have known or heard about divorce, loss of job, broken vehicle, could only hunt a day or two, sickness, emergency, etc. 

The other side is those who falsely report or don't report. I think most are falsely reporting in the way as if they hunted but were unsuccessful then they just say they didn't hunt so they don't have to answer the next couple questions. I think this is the F&W's fault. You can make a reporting system that forces peole to give answers. Don't give them the easy way out.

I really doubt that anyone applies for a permit thinking that if drawn they won't hunt.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: WDFW-SUX on March 11, 2009, 06:07:48 PM
Im really hoping that I draw this year............ :dunno:
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: walt on March 11, 2009, 06:18:45 PM
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I think most are falsely reporting in the way as if they hunted but were unsuccessful then they just say they didn't hunt so they don't have to answer the next couple questions.

I think btkr hit it on the head right there.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: PWN Kurt on March 11, 2009, 09:28:42 PM
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my brother got his wife prego and she is due 4 days before we are supposed to leave. Sucks he isn't going now

What do you mean?!  His work was done 9 months ago?
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: HoofsandWings on March 12, 2009, 07:29:36 AM
If you look at other permits as to drawing and not hunting, even the goat/sheep/moose permits have people who drew and did not hunt.
Some of the people who drew spring bear wanted a tag just in case they saw a bear while working in the area drawn.
Spring bear also coinsides with mushroom picking and turkey seasons.
Title: Re: Spring Bear BS
Post by: Da stump on March 12, 2009, 08:09:09 AM
 :bash:My daughter in law planned her birthday on opening day of rifle season. :bash:
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