Post by: Mallardmasher on November 14, 2017, 06:36:56 AM
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Post by: JDHasty on November 14, 2017, 12:57:20 PM
If you could use either at your blacktail camera location, which would be your first choice, Pumkins or Apples, and would you use any grain. I plan on feeding them thru the winter into spring.
Once they start on pumpkins they are hooked. Kick one or two open, they eat the seeds and guts. Apples always get them going, using wet cob we frequently need apples to prime the pump before they take off on it. Once on wet cob or pumpkins there is no stopping them.
Post by: N7XW on November 14, 2017, 01:19:19 PM
Post by: PolarBear on November 14, 2017, 01:46:38 PM
Do blacktail like alfalfa hay?No they do not. Elk do but I have never had a blackmail even take as much as a nibble of alfalfa. Acorns and apples seem to be their favorites. Blacktails have a lot different taste than whitetails or mulies. You almost have to force feed them to start eating grain.
Post by: Eric M on November 14, 2017, 01:56:29 PM
Post by: JDHasty on November 14, 2017, 02:01:37 PM
Never had any luck with alfalfa or minerals. Apples always works. They seem to lose interest in Apple's beginning of October at least for me. Cant figure it out. Maybe eating acorns? Have to try pumpkins
Ya' don't say? Actually, it usually works that way on dumped apples for us, apple trees, they go steady on. Yes starting them on grain, even wet cob is work. Once they are on it, or rolled corn, it is something they never forget though.
Post by: Band on November 14, 2017, 02:12:30 PM
Might be because alfalfa holds to nutritional content for deer. I've heard reports of deer dying of starvation with stomachs bloated with alfalfa. Different story for elk though.Do blacktail like alfalfa hay?No they do not. Elk do but I have never had a blackmail even take as much as a nibble of alfalfa.
Post by: Eric M on November 14, 2017, 03:30:42 PM
Interesting thanks for the tip.Never had any luck with alfalfa or minerals. Apples always works. They seem to lose interest in Apple's beginning of October at least for me. Cant figure it out. Maybe eating acorns? Have to try pumpkins
Ya' don't say? Actually, it usually works that way on dumped apples for us, apple trees, they go steady on. Yes starting them on grain, even wet cob is work. Once they are on it, or rolled corn, it is something they never forget though.
Post by: fishnfur on November 14, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
Might be because alfalfa holds to nutritional content for deer. I've heard reports of deer dying of starvation with stomachs bloated with alfalfa. Different story for elk though.Do blacktail like alfalfa hay?No they do not. Elk do but I have never had a blackmail even take as much as a nibble of alfalfa.
I think that was corn. High carb, low protein.
Post by: PolarBear on November 14, 2017, 07:34:54 PM
The mulies and whitetails push my buddies horses off of their alfalfa in NE WA. They are fat as hogs all winter.
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Post by: fishnfur on November 14, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
APPLES, they don't seem to touch the pumpkins until after they have frozen or are starting to get soft. I did buy five for a buck each at Home Depot right after Halloween though. I will toss one out tomorrow and pout some apples next to it and see what happens. ;)
The trees have been bare of apples for a few days. I never considered pumpkins, so I cut one up and threw it in front of the cam. We'll see what happens.
Post by: JDHasty on November 15, 2017, 05:33:45 AM
I've had a pumpkin sitting at my cam for a week and nothing has touched it!
They eat the guts and will kick them open themselves after they start eating them. Try kicking them open to let them at the seeds. Like I said above, they don't start on them like apples. Once they are on them, they will stay with them though.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 15, 2017, 05:36:54 AM
Post by: JDHasty on November 15, 2017, 05:40:02 AM
Being that pumpkins are not one of their natural foods is this causing any damage to their digestive system?
They seem to thrive on squash. I know a woman who spent $50K on fences to keep them out of her organic farm and they were really after her squash.
Post by: JakeLand on November 15, 2017, 05:49:36 AM
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Post by: JDHasty on November 15, 2017, 06:12:45 AM
Just plant some rose bushes in front of the camera
Or a spot of this behind each ear before heading out to hunt:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 15, 2017, 07:25:46 AM
Just plant some rose bushes in front of the camera
Or tomato plants or Big Leaf Maple seedlings or tulips....
Post by: boneaddict on November 15, 2017, 07:33:28 AM
Just plant some rose bushes in front of the camera
:chuckle:
Post by: JDHasty on November 15, 2017, 08:48:31 AM
Just plant some rose bushes in front of the camera
Or tomato plants or Big Leaf Maple seedlings or tulips....
Had a lab that was a tulip bulb eating machine. I gave her to my elderly mother when she was about nine. She would dig up and eat every tulip bulb in the neighborhood when she got out. I suspect she would have made a fantastic truffle dog.
Post by: lokidog on November 15, 2017, 09:59:49 AM
If you could use either at your blacktail camera location, which would be your first choice, Pumkins or Apples, and would you use any grain. I plan on feeding them thru the winter into spring.
Once they start on pumpkins they are hooked. Kick one or two open, they eat the seeds and guts. Apples always get them going, using wet cob we frequently need apples to prime the pump before they take off on it. Once on wet cob or pumpkins there is no stopping them.
I've also had good luck with them eating the Allstock pellets from Del's, they seem to like them better than others I've tried. Priming the pump with apples definitely helps. They also need to be kept dry.
Post by: Mallardmasher on November 16, 2017, 01:40:35 PM
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Post by: JDHasty on November 16, 2017, 06:53:03 PM
Oh yes, gonna need more apples, the other is good, but spendy. Getting them ready for when apples are no longer avail.... Thanks
Wet COB $12/bag on sale vs apples & pumpkins free. No brainer. Remember to kick a couple pumpkins open to let them know there are seeds inside. Once they know the drill they will not hesitate though. Deer Cane will also work as a starter sometimes. If they go for it, they will eat a 4x4 foot rotten stump in a year or dig a hole three feet deep if you pour a gallon out. I haven't used it much, but know a guy that swears by it. He has a dozen holes dug on his place where they have eaten all the dirt. He maintains them year after year.