Post by: Jason on November 19, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
http://www.kptv.com/story/36881606/search-suspended-for-missing-vancouver-elk-hunter
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 19, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 19, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
Post by: acnewman55 on November 20, 2017, 07:09:00 AM
Prayers with the family. Get yourself an InReach guys. Just do it - then you can text from anywhere or press 911.
:yeah:
I'm not allowed to hunt along anymore without carrying one. I have a friend still with us today because he had an inreach when climbing in the north cascades.
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2017, 07:13:37 AM
Post by: Stein on November 20, 2017, 08:02:45 AM
Don’t know anything aBout the product. Someone in the know should do a thread. I’ve carried a spot before.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,220936.msg2938966/topicseen.html#new
Ask Santa for one, if you ever hunt out of cell range this is a mandatory piece of equipment.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 20, 2017, 08:42:21 AM
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Post by: Wazukie on November 20, 2017, 09:28:40 AM
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Post by: optic2 on November 20, 2017, 12:45:23 PM
I sure hope he's holed up in a snow cave but it doesn't look good. I think if I were to get one, it'd be the spot. I already have a great GPS. The subscription rates are similar but the units vary wildly in price. Anyone know anything about how they work in heavy timber and with snow or fog?
It needs a clear view of the sky to work. Sometimes messages can take a little while if you are in heavy timber. If it's in your pocket and you're in timber you probably won't receive a message. It's good to take it out every so often when you're in a clearing and let it sit out for a little while. But, every message I've ever sent has been received and every message ever sent to me has also been received by me. If you get one I also recommend a portable charger so you can recharge it.
Post by: Stein on November 20, 2017, 01:09:39 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on November 20, 2017, 05:25:44 PM
He also said if you're in the backcountry (or anywhere really) and see a helicopter coming in, don't wave your flashlights around like a neighboring camp did. Cost them 45 minutes to find out they weren't the group in trouble...
Post by: boneaddict on November 20, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
Post by: sumpnz on November 20, 2017, 09:24:36 PM
I sure hope he's holed up in a snow cave but it doesn't look good. I think if I were to get one, it'd be the spot. I already have a great GPS. The subscription rates are similar but the units vary wildly in price. Anyone know anything about how they work in heavy timber and with snow or fog?
InReach does everything the SPOT does, plus more. SPOT is one-way text messages/emails that have to be pre-programmed before you go. InReach has those, but also the on-the-fly custom text messages, and it's 2-way you can receive text messages. With a SPOT if you hit the SOS button you don't know it's been received until the chopper arrives overhead. With the InReach you get confirmation from GEOS that the SOS was received, and they can give you status/ETA on rescue, plus you can give up to date medical info so the rescuers are prepared to handle your injuries and deal with any known pre-existing medical conditions.
If you look at the pricing it can be cheaper in the long run to get the InReach too as they allow you to turn on/off the service at monthly intervals. If you're like a lot of guys and would only need it for 2 months out of the year, you'll pay more per month for those 2 months, but you'll save a ton by turning it off and not paying anything for the other 10 months of the year. SPOT is yearly only on their subscriptions.
When I can handle the upfront cost I'll be trading up to the InReach.
Regarding the fellow lost in the woods, I sure hope and pray they find him safe and alive. But the odds are already really low and not going to get any better. Only way he's likely to be found alive is if he found shelter somewhere. Miracles happen and people have survived more severe situations.
Post by: Sneekee23 on November 22, 2017, 10:11:52 PM
Post by: Cylvertip on November 23, 2017, 01:16:43 AM
Still holding out hope, or at least that he is located.
Post by: Jason on November 23, 2017, 05:19:29 AM
I still have hope they find him alive, but there's over five feet of snow now and thirty more inches coming by the weekend.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 23, 2017, 05:43:10 AM
Post by: elksnout on November 23, 2017, 06:13:30 AM
The agony of that family must be horrible.
Can't shake it. As elk hunters we all can relate. This is too sad.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 23, 2017, 06:20:39 AM
One good thing about the spot over in-reach is the replaceable batteries. I guess you can carry one of the power monkey's that will let you do it remotely for the in reach if needed. Spot has been great for me. I have carried it all over the world on various travels and take it with e in whatever vehicle I am in. Better safe than sorry. It has kept me out of the dog house several times when there was no cell service and I was able to let the boss know where I was. As the technology gets better and cheaper, a two way messenger will replace the Spot.My rhino , phone , and inreach all charge from a single batt pack. Lil extra weight but necssary now days.
Still holding out hope, or at least that he is located.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 23, 2017, 07:46:04 AM
Post by: Elkcollector82 on November 23, 2017, 08:26:55 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 23, 2017, 08:35:37 AM
Garmin inreach. Worth every penny. Yea it’s $500 out the door with a monthly payment plan or just pay as you use it. Has a S.O.S button. Gives updated tracks to whoever you send the “my map” link to. Battery life is unbelievable. Backcountry with a 30 min location update setting. Lasted 5 days. Works in heavy cover areas. Can send and receive texts. The spot is decent. Way to cliche for me. I want something I can depend on. Garmin never let me down. Like I said $500 is pennies when you really need it.
$239 ! https://www.amazon.com/DeLorme-inReach-SE-Satellite-Tracker/dp/B00BX7TJ2O (https://www.amazon.com/DeLorme-inReach-SE-Satellite-Tracker/dp/B00BX7TJ2O)
Post by: SniperDanWA on November 23, 2017, 08:41:24 AM
Each time this post pops up in my feed I'm hoping to see his rescue is successful. :'(
John, I agree. Maybe the other spurious traffic could be separated into another thread. It’s great info, but there is a fellow hunter missing.
Post by: Jason on November 23, 2017, 09:58:07 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 23, 2017, 10:49:44 AM
Post by: Jason on November 23, 2017, 12:14:35 PM
Post by: jnordwell on November 23, 2017, 12:52:29 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 23, 2017, 12:58:44 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 23, 2017, 01:56:17 PM
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Post by: Elkcollector82 on November 23, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
Does anyone find it odd that he left his truck keys in the truck? Makes me wonder.
That is very odd :dunno:
Post by: csaaphill on November 23, 2017, 03:16:19 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 23, 2017, 03:53:17 PM
Does anyone find it odd that he left his truck keys in the truck? Makes me wonder.
That is very odd :dunno:
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Didn't realize the keys where in his truck...very odd. Probably not normal for him.. makes one wonder.
Post by: lord grizzly on November 23, 2017, 04:33:07 PM
Post by: biggfish on November 23, 2017, 06:06:07 PM
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Post by: fishngamereaper on November 23, 2017, 06:10:03 PM
In this case I guess we don't know. Could be normal for him..
Post by: highside74 on November 23, 2017, 06:14:55 PM
Leaving the keys in the truck is not unheard of, I've known guys that do it in case something happens. If you lose your gear or fall you still have a way out.
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Yep all of my family and hunting partners know exactly where I leave my keys. In an emergency, someone can get my rig. Or if I kill something far from my rig, someone can grab it and move it closer without having to come to me first.
Post by: slowhand on November 23, 2017, 07:29:19 PM
Hope and prayers
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 23, 2017, 07:43:04 PM
Leaving the keys in the truck is not unheard of, I've known guys that do it in case something happens. If you lose your gear or fall you still have a way out.
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Yep all of my family and hunting partners know exactly where I leave my keys. In an emergency, someone can get my rig. Or if I kill something far from my rig, someone can grab it and move it closer without having to come to me first.
:yeah:. Depends on the situation how far I am from the truck, but they usually stay in the truck or somewhere else like in the bed near the tailgate.
Post by: rudedawg1085 on November 24, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on November 24, 2017, 03:10:52 PM
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Post by: Stein on November 24, 2017, 04:34:30 PM
Post by: Crunchy on November 24, 2017, 04:38:37 PM
Post by: Jason on November 25, 2017, 09:56:46 AM
Presler Has been found, not alive. The family doesn't have to wait tell spring for some closure. RIP!!
http://koin.com/2017/11/25/missing-vancouver-elk-hunter-found-dead/
Post by: hoof rot on November 25, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
Post by: huntnfmly on November 25, 2017, 10:35:37 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 25, 2017, 10:44:04 AM
It said not far from his rig. That country is thick and there was a lot of people looking for him.
Post by: Sandberm on November 25, 2017, 11:41:05 AM
When I was 15(1985) my parents got a call about 7pm at night from the daughter in law of a gentleman who had gone missing. They had found his truck parked beside an asparagus field and figured he had stopped to do a bit of pheasant hunting. She asked us if we could go to the field and help search for him. So dad and I grabbed flashlights and because the field was only a mile down the road we were the first ones there. I think one of his sons was the only other person there. I set out going one way around the field, my dad another way and the son another direction. Soon after the cops showed up along with another 10-15 people. The police organized a grid search through the chest high asparagus.
To make a long story short he wasnt a hundred yards from his pickup in between a ditch and the field when one of his sons found him. I think I walked right by him in the dark with my flashlight a short time earlier and never saw him. There was nothing that could have been done anyway as he had had a massive heart attack and died. Still...he was right there, why didnt I see him?
I can remember it like it was yesterday.
Post by: slowhand on November 25, 2017, 12:26:16 PM
I hunt solo often and will for sure think about this for a while.
Post by: saylean on November 25, 2017, 01:18:20 PM
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Post by: biggfish on November 25, 2017, 09:37:18 PM
Sad, hunting solo can b risky businessI solo hunt myself, I've fallen off the mountain and was able to drag my way out. But every time I read about a hunter out solo dying in the field it sure gets me thinking about my own situation. It's got me seriously looking at a spot. Won't prevent an accident, but it might prevent a tragedy.
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Post by: huntnphool on November 25, 2017, 09:45:51 PM
The name sounds very familiar, was he a member on here?
Post by: Angus on November 25, 2017, 10:46:18 PM
Reminds me of something that my dad and I were talking about the other day.
When I was 15(1985) my parents got a call about 7pm at night from the daughter in law of a gentleman who had gone missing. They had found his truck parked beside an asparagus field and figured he had stopped to do a bit of pheasant hunting. She asked us if we could go to the field and help search for him. So dad and I grabbed flashlights and because the field was only a mile down the road we were the first ones there. I think one of his sons was the only other person there. I set out going one way around the field, my dad another way and the son another direction. Soon after the cops showed up along with another 10-15 people. The police organized a grid search through the chest high asparagus.
To make a long story short he wasnt a hundred yards from his pickup in between a ditch and the field when one of his sons found him. I think I walked right by him in the dark with my flashlight a short time earlier and never saw him. There was nothing that could have been done anyway as he had had a massive heart attack and died. Still...he was right there, why didnt I see him?
I can remember it like it was yesterday.
Similar story, A cousin of mine took his own life on a hunting trip back in 1991. As we left camp that morning he told me he was headed to the same spot he shot a buck the year before, I knew the area well. That night when he didn't show up at camp we called the sheriff and the next morning a search party showed up and spent 3 days searching the area, this included 2 days with a helicopter in the air, they didn't find him. Family and friends spent 3 more days searching before we found him, he was maybe 50' from where he shot the deer the previous year, I personally searched that area 3 times and you could see numerous pieces of marker tape from SAR in the area but they never saw him either. He was wearing a blaze orange jacket, but the way he fell next to a log made him nearly invisible unless you walked within about 10' of him.
Luckily, or unluckily for him, a family friend happened to stumble across his body. Never want to go through something like that again.
Post by: Sandberm on November 26, 2017, 08:22:38 AM
Very sad.
The name sounds very familiar, was he a member on here?
I thought of Pastor Joel when I read the name. He just posted yesterday so it wasnt him.
Post by: jstone on November 26, 2017, 03:12:48 PM
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Post by: sumpnz on November 26, 2017, 07:34:49 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 26, 2017, 07:41:05 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 26, 2017, 07:45:20 PM
My guess is that he was looking for his truck and it either got dark and/or foggy which made it impossible to see the truck even from 100 yards. He spent a night out of in bad weather and got hypothermic. If that is accurate a GPS (properly used) would have probably saved his life.
:yeah:
So close, but yet so far.
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 26, 2017, 08:02:32 PM
If it's your time to go, go doing what you love...
Post by: huntnphool on November 26, 2017, 10:07:02 PM
My guess is that he was looking for his truck and it either got dark and/or foggy which made it impossible to see the truck even from 100 yards. He spent a night out of in bad weather and got hypothermic. If that is accurate a GPS (properly used) would have probably saved his life.
It will be interesting to hear the details for sure.
Post by: slowhand on November 27, 2017, 07:16:56 AM
Rip sir.....Good Call :tup:
If it's your time to go, go doing what you love...
Post by: Machias on November 27, 2017, 03:53:59 PM
Post by: elksnout on November 27, 2017, 06:18:36 PM
So damn sad.
Elksnout
Post by: NW SURVEYOR on December 02, 2017, 08:37:56 AM
Having spent 45 years chasing elk, this is a situation I have dreaded for decades.
My thoughts and prayers to the family.
As an avid outdoorsman, fellow hunter and Land Surveyor, I will offer this....
When hunting in the forest, if you park at the end of the road, aim for a point 1/4 of a mile up the road from the truck.
Having used a map and compass for ever, this is the tried and true method to assure that you intersect the road.
You may hit the road and have to walk to the truck, but it's basically foolproof.
Something to remember is that the more error you feel exists in your navigation, the further up the road you aim.
I for one would rather walk a mile than miss the end of road.
Having worked as a professional land surveyor for years, I am REALLY good at forest navigation, but during the hunt, even I get disoriented.
This methodology also hold for GPS as you can miss the end of a road much easier in the dark.
As a side note, my son bought me a pair of 650 Garmins, one of which I carry.
My technical skills are limited, but I can use the basics.
We all owe it to our families to return after the hunt.
R.I. P. Joel,
Rob.
Post by: huntnphool on December 02, 2017, 02:08:15 PM
Post by: Jason on December 02, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
"An autopsy will be conducted by the Clark County medical examiner's office. An investigation is ongoing.
"There is still a lot of questions I think right now," said Brown. "There are a lot of things pointing to the fact that he was a bit disoriented perhaps, even though he came back towards the truck. There are a lot of indicators of someone who may have been suffering a little bit from hypothermia."