Post by: Whitenuckles on November 28, 2017, 11:39:10 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 28, 2017, 11:44:23 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 28, 2017, 12:21:22 PM
Post by: JakeLand on November 28, 2017, 01:16:34 PM
Post by: Whitenuckles on November 28, 2017, 01:57:40 PM
Last night we watched a 2 point blacktail chasing a doe back and forth across hwy 2
I'm there with you. I see lots of small bucks. I had 8 bucks in front of my blind last friday all in the last 45 min of daylight. But all my big boys have seemed to disappear. When they were in "peak", there were 3 to 5 big bucks following a single doe. And it was happening at the same time on different parts of our property.
Last year there was an early snow in the beginning of December. I remember walking through the woods and being able to smell the rutty bucks that were in the area. About 30 min later I rounded a corner and a beautiful 5 point had his nose in her sweet spot. And being on a first time muzzy hunt. I did something wrong and my gun wouldn't fire. So I'm hoping to hit that timing again. :dunno:
I swear...... these Blacktail are the hardest animal I have ever hunted for. :bash:
Post by: jackmaster on November 28, 2017, 02:45:38 PM
pull the nipple out in the morning before you leave the house and make sure it's clean, never reuse a cap either, always put a new one on :tup:Last night we watched a 2 point blacktail chasing a doe back and forth across hwy 2
I'm there with you. I see lots of small bucks. I had 8 bucks in front of my blind last friday all in the last 45 min of daylight. But all my big boys have seemed to disappear. When they were in "peak", there were 3 to 5 big bucks following a single doe. And it was happening at the same time on different parts of our property.
Last year there was an early snow in the beginning of December. I remember walking through the woods and being able to smell the rutty bucks that were in the area. About 30 min later I rounded a corner and a beautiful 5 point had his nose in her sweet spot. And being on a first time muzzy hunt. I did something wrong and my gun wouldn't fire. So I'm hoping to hit that timing again. :dunno:
I swear...... these Blacktail are the hardest animal I have ever hunted for. :bash:
Post by: Whitenuckles on November 28, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
I hope that was my problem. I did use the same cap for about 2 weeks.pull the nipple out in the morning before you leave the house and make sure it's clean, never reuse a cap either, always put a new one on :tup:Last night we watched a 2 point blacktail chasing a doe back and forth across hwy 2
I'm there with you. I see lots of small bucks. I had 8 bucks in front of my blind last friday all in the last 45 min of daylight. But all my big boys have seemed to disappear. When they were in "peak", there were 3 to 5 big bucks following a single doe. And it was happening at the same time on different parts of our property.
Last year there was an early snow in the beginning of December. I remember walking through the woods and being able to smell the rutty bucks that were in the area. About 30 min later I rounded a corner and a beautiful 5 point had his nose in her sweet spot. And being on a first time muzzy hunt. I did something wrong and my gun wouldn't fire. So I'm hoping to hit that timing again. :dunno:
I swear...... these Blacktail are the hardest animal I have ever hunted for. :bash:
Post by: Axle on November 28, 2017, 06:43:23 PM
I think my reply need s whole new thread though.
Post by: Mallardmasher on November 28, 2017, 11:05:11 PM
After he chases her yearling off, does it force her to come into season?
Post by: jackmaster on November 29, 2017, 06:21:54 AM
are you using pellets or loose powder? And yeah never use the same cap, once I decap it gets tossed!!I hope that was my problem. I did use the same cap for about 2 weeks.pull the nipple out in the morning before you leave the house and make sure it's clean, never reuse a cap either, always put a new one on :tup:Last night we watched a 2 point blacktail chasing a doe back and forth across hwy 2
I'm there with you. I see lots of small bucks. I had 8 bucks in front of my blind last friday all in the last 45 min of daylight. But all my big boys have seemed to disappear. When they were in "peak", there were 3 to 5 big bucks following a single doe. And it was happening at the same time on different parts of our property.
Last year there was an early snow in the beginning of December. I remember walking through the woods and being able to smell the rutty bucks that were in the area. About 30 min later I rounded a corner and a beautiful 5 point had his nose in her sweet spot. And being on a first time muzzy hunt. I did something wrong and my gun wouldn't fire. So I'm hoping to hit that timing again. :dunno:
I swear...... these Blacktail are the hardest animal I have ever hunted for. :bash:
Post by: Whitenuckles on November 29, 2017, 07:45:01 AM
3- 30 grain pellets. My gun seems to be more accurate with less powder. I tried up to 150 grains, it was shooting a 6 inch pattern at 100. Not cool.are you using pellets or loose powder? And yeah never use the same cap, once I decap it gets tossed!!I hope that was my problem. I did use the same cap for about 2 weeks.pull the nipple out in the morning before you leave the house and make sure it's clean, never reuse a cap either, always put a new one on :tup:Last night we watched a 2 point blacktail chasing a doe back and forth across hwy 2
I'm there with you. I see lots of small bucks. I had 8 bucks in front of my blind last friday all in the last 45 min of daylight. But all my big boys have seemed to disappear. When they were in "peak", there were 3 to 5 big bucks following a single doe. And it was happening at the same time on different parts of our property.
Last year there was an early snow in the beginning of December. I remember walking through the woods and being able to smell the rutty bucks that were in the area. About 30 min later I rounded a corner and a beautiful 5 point had his nose in her sweet spot. And being on a first time muzzy hunt. I did something wrong and my gun wouldn't fire. So I'm hoping to hit that timing again. :dunno:
I swear...... these Blacktail are the hardest animal I have ever hunted for. :bash:
Post by: Whitenuckles on November 29, 2017, 07:52:02 AM
Quite possibly the main reason BT bucks are running around trying to breed does 'out of the rut' is because there aren't enough does to breed.Could be. I have roughly 1.5 bucks to 1 doe on the property. I don't know why. Last year we had a lot of cats. But only one hanging around this year.
I think my reply need s whole new thread though.
Another thing.... My wife and I walk the property almost everyday, all year long. These deer don't mind us at all. In fact 3 of the does next to the house let us pet them. Little bucks will let us walk only a few feet from them. And I have only harvested 3 deer off the property in 5 years. So why are the big boys so freaking hard to catch on there feet? What makes them so anal compared to the rest of them? It just dosent make any sense to me......
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 29, 2017, 08:47:24 AM
Last night we watched a 2 point blacktail chasing a doe back and forth across hwy 2He won't live long when the slope dopes start traveling up and down the highway
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 29, 2017, 10:56:49 AM
Quite possibly the main reason BT bucks are running around trying to breed does 'out of the rut' is because there aren't enough does to breed.
I think my reply need s whole new thread though.
Around the area I hunt, this seems to be the case this year. Every doe has 2-3 bucks in the immediate area.
Post by: fishnfur on November 29, 2017, 06:58:46 PM
Quite possibly the main reason BT bucks are running around trying to breed does 'out of the rut' is because there aren't enough does to breed.
I think my reply need s whole new thread though.
Around the area I hunt, this seems to be the case this year. Every doe has 2-3 bucks in the immediate area.
In my mind, the (observed) buck to doe ratio is skewed for two reasons:
- Lack of hunting pressure has allowed the buck to doe ratio to reach near equal proportions - 1/1. It will likely never go higher than one to one. Unbred does in the first couple of estrus periods (low buck to doe ratio) tend to produce buck offspring as a compensatory mechanism that should produce more bucks for the population. Sounds like you're pretty close to max bucks per doe.
- Bucks are attracted to the increased activity and scent that a doe experiences just prior to her fertility phase. A buck won't hang with a doe if she's not showing signs of getting hot, they go find one that is. When there's a high buck to doe ratio, it makes sense to me that multiple bucks all hang with the hottie who's close to giving it up. All the pregnant and in-between estrus period does are being boring and just sitting around at home. Sounds like high school, huh?
Post by: fishnfur on November 29, 2017, 07:05:37 PM
Post by: kodiak 907 on November 29, 2017, 08:47:44 PM
Quite possibly the main reason BT bucks are running around trying to breed does 'out of the rut' is because there aren't enough does to breed.
I think my reply need s whole new thread though.
Around the area I hunt, this seems to be the case this year. Every doe has 2-3 bucks in the immediate area.
In my mind, the (observed) buck to doe ratio is skewed for two reasons:
- Lack of hunting pressure has allowed the buck to doe ratio to reach near equal proportions - 1/1. It will likely never go higher than one to one. Unbred does in the first couple of estrus periods (low buck to doe ratio) tend to produce buck offspring as a compensatory mechanism that should produce more bucks for the population. Sounds like you're pretty close to max bucks per doe.
- Bucks are attracted to the increased activity and scent that a doe experiences just prior to her fertility phase. A buck won't hang with a doe if she's not showing signs of getting hot, they go find one that is. When there's a high buck to doe ratio, it makes sense to me that multiple bucks all hang with the hottie who's close to giving it up. All the pregnant and in-between estrus period does are being boring and just sitting around at home. Sounds like high school, huh?
Definitely agree, lots of large chunks of private ground helps to keep the numbers up also. The long tails are starting to show up on all my cams. The bucks must be better at eluding because all I find is doe cat kills.