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Title: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: TwoBear on December 08, 2017, 07:17:07 PM: Its here, MT FWP commission rattling around a special muley season in effected areas for January. Thought I would put that out to yall.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 08, 2017, 07:28:34 PM: No link. :dunno:
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Timberstalker on December 08, 2017, 07:38:13 PM: http://fwp.mt.gov/news/newsReleases/fishAndWildlife/nr_1030.html
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: The scout on December 08, 2017, 07:45:21 PM: Did anyone see how much the extra tag costs?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 08, 2017, 07:50:10 PM: Or if non residents can buy the OTC?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 08, 2017, 08:55:55 PM: Quote from: Duckslayer89 on December 08, 2017, 07:50:10 PM
Or if non residents can buy the OTC?

Yah, I'd be surprised if non res were included in this hunt unless they can't get enough resident hunters. I'm surprised they couldn't get enough info in the regular hunt. Looks like they will have up to 1,000 hunters taking 400 deer.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: The scout on December 08, 2017, 09:49:02 PM: I don’t know why non res hunters wouldn’t. As long as they had hunting license for the yr already
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: highside74 on December 08, 2017, 10:01:58 PM: Following some links I found info that says it will be a separate license sold over the counter only on a first come first served basis and only valid for this hunt. Doesn't say anything about residents only. 600 whitetail and 600 mule deer. There will be check stations and once they have enough deer the hunt will be over.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: bobcat on December 08, 2017, 10:22:46 PM: What I saw was that resident licenses were $10 each and non-resident licenses would be $20 each.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Bob33 on December 08, 2017, 11:17:21 PM: http://fwp.mt.gov/news/newsReleases/headlines/nr_4324.html (http://fwp.mt.gov/news/newsReleases/headlines/nr_4324.html)

First come first served. Resident and non resident. $10 and $20.

FWP will sell 500 licenses for each of the two season segments. Of those, 100 will be either-sex tags while 400 will be for antlerless animals only. Licenses will cost $10 for residents and $20 for non-residents.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Duckslayer89 on December 08, 2017, 11:47:56 PM: Why would they sell 2x as many permits? So if I buy for the second hunt and they already have filled the quota then game over?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: ffbowhunter on December 09, 2017, 12:30:03 PM: Has anyone found out what time they go on sale the 11th? I imagine they will go quick, at least the any deer ones.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Stein on December 09, 2017, 02:19:56 PM: Sounds like you can put in for several, not sure how that would work but I'll probably give it a shot. It would be well worth the trip to put a couple does in the freezer.

Anyone see what time the sale starts, it wasn't mentioned in what I read?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: ffbowhunter on December 09, 2017, 02:52:37 PM: Quote from: Stein on December 09, 2017, 02:19:56 PM
Sounds like you can put in for several, not sure how that would work but I'll probably give it a shot. It would be well worth the trip to put a couple does in the freezer.

Anyone see what time the sale starts, it wasn't mentioned in what I read?

I'm going to be up at midnight!
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 09, 2017, 03:46:58 PM: The season is set for dec 15-feb 15 now. Not broken into 2 segments like was originally proposed. I called and they said tags go on sale at 5 am Monday

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: ffbowhunter on December 09, 2017, 04:23:30 PM: Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 09, 2017, 03:46:58 PM
The season is set for dec 15-feb 15 now. Not broken into 2 segments like was originally proposed. I called and they said tags go on sale at 5 am Monday

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How did you find the time?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Stein on December 09, 2017, 06:58:39 PM: 5 am Mountain?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 09, 2017, 10:33:29 PM: I called and asked a representative in the billings FWP office, I was trying to find out if they planned to expedite mailing of the tags with the short window between online purchases and season opening. She told me the tags will go online at 5 am on the 11th online and will be available at vendors as they open. I assumed mountain time since all of Montana is, and I am in mountain time as well

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: C-Money on December 10, 2017, 07:25:07 AM: $20 for non residents? Any additional fees?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Stein on December 10, 2017, 07:51:14 AM: Quote from: C-Money on December 10, 2017, 07:25:07 AM
$20 for non residents? Any additional fees?

Hunting licence, conservation license.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Stein on December 11, 2017, 04:12:37 AM: Either sex mule deer went fast, I got one but missed one for my daughter. Antlerless were still there at 4:10.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 04:16:25 AM: Quote from: Stein on December 11, 2017, 04:12:37 AM
Either sex mule deer went fast, I got one but missed one for my daughter. Antlerless were still there at 4:10.
so frustrated right now! Log in screen wouldn't /won't allow me to enter my DOB! :bash:
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 04:19:36 AM: I got either sex whitetail and 2 antlerless mule deer. Plan on packing the freezer full

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 04:19:58 AM: Quote from: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 04:16:25 AM
Quote from: Stein on December 11, 2017, 04:12:37 AM
Either sex mule deer went fast, I got one but missed one for my daughter. Antlerless were still there at 4:10.
so frustrated right now! Log in screen wouldn't /won't allow me to enter my DOB! :bash:
That sucks man

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 04:41:00 AM: Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 04:19:58 AM
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 04:16:25 AM
Quote from: Stein on December 11, 2017, 04:12:37 AM
Either sex mule deer went fast, I got one but missed one for my daughter. Antlerless were still there at 4:10.
so frustrated right now! Log in screen wouldn't /won't allow me to enter my DOB! :bash:
That sucks man

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i was johnny on the spot too :bash: it still won't work smh
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 06:24:44 AM: Quote from: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 04:41:00 AM
Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 04:19:58 AM
Quote from: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 04:16:25 AM
Quote from: Stein on December 11, 2017, 04:12:37 AM
Either sex mule deer went fast, I got one but missed one for my daughter. Antlerless were still there at 4:10.
so frustrated right now! Log in screen wouldn't /won't allow me to enter my DOB! :bash:
That sucks man

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i was johnny on the spot too :bash: it still won't work smh
This may be a stupid question but you have previously purchased a Montana license correct?

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 07:32:48 AM: More than most yes
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: James on December 11, 2017, 07:59:24 AM: There are some people that are much faster typers than I...

Dam those either sex tags went fast.
Title: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 08:34:57 AM: I could've had a muley either sex but went whitetail instead for some reason. I guess the fact I already got a decent muley this year and I've yet to take a good whitey

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: RB on December 11, 2017, 08:57:26 AM: Are they all sold out now?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:12:53 AM: This maybe a stupid question but can the meat from this hunt leave Montana before the CWD test results are complete?
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:19:13 AM: Quote from: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
This maybe a stupid question but can the meat from this hunt leave Montana before the CWD test results are complete?
Yes. Just can't take skulls with any flesh or brain matter or the spinal column.

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:21:11 AM: Quote from: RB on December 11, 2017, 08:57:26 AM
Are they all sold out now?
Looks like they are sold out

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:21:58 AM: Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:19:13 AM
Quote from: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
This maybe a stupid question but can the meat from this hunt leave Montana before the CWD test results are complete?
Yes. Just can't take skulls with any flesh or brain matter or the spinal column.

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I see... the Oregon guy brought the whole carcass.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:35:58 AM: Quote from: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:19:13 AM
Quote from: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
This maybe a stupid question but can the meat from this hunt leave Montana before the CWD test results are complete?
Yes. Just can't take skulls with any flesh or brain matter or the spinal column.

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I see... the Oregon guy brought the whole carcass.
What Oregon guy?

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Stein on December 11, 2017, 10:00:52 AM: Hopefully they ship quickly, we're looking at leaving either Friday or Sunday. I'm not sure if you can get the tags reprinted at a FWP office.

I'll start a thread for anyone that wants to discuss the hunt and share info.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 11, 2017, 10:01:16 AM: CWD rules get broken constantly! Ive seen so many whole deer leave cwd states over the years.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: NW Diehard on December 11, 2017, 10:54:34 AM: Dang I was too late :bash:
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Houndhunter on December 11, 2017, 11:02:19 AM: I thought about buying one of these but the 4 hour drive didn't seem appealing to me, good luck to those with a buck tag. I'm sure a few big deer will be taken on these hunts
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 11:34:25 AM: Quote from: Houndhunter on December 11, 2017, 11:02:19 AM
I thought about buying one of these but the 4 hour drive didn't seem appealing to me, good luck to those with a buck tag. I'm sure a few big deer will be taken on these hunts
My buddy and I are driving 10 hrs but we both have freezers that are running low and I don't want to depend on a depredation elk or spring bear to get me through to next fall

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Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 11:56:51 AM: Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:35:58 AM
Quote from: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
Quote from: andrew_in_idaho on December 11, 2017, 09:19:13 AM
Quote from: X-Force on December 11, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
This maybe a stupid question but can the meat from this hunt leave Montana before the CWD test results are complete?
Yes. Just can't take skulls with any flesh or brain matter or the spinal column.

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I see... the Oregon guy brought the whole carcass.
What Oregon guy?

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There is a thread on here about it http://nwsportsmanmag.com/oregon-man-cited-bringing-cwd-infected-deer-carcass-back-montana/ (http://nwsportsmanmag.com/oregon-man-cited-bringing-cwd-infected-deer-carcass-back-montana/)
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Stein on December 11, 2017, 12:02:49 PM: Wonder how they disposed of it? If it is still in Oregon, then the state isn't a CWD free state as you can't destroy the prions and they are viable essentially forever from what I read.
Title: Re: Montana Special Mule Deer Hunt due to CWD
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on December 12, 2017, 10:49:13 AM: That map in the article is telling. Every yellow dot is a known case in a captive deer. Look at those dots and how they are associated with the known areas of CWS, (the areas in darker gray). It's very likely that deer farming had a lot to do with the spread of this disease. Buying and shipping of these deer could easily be the way this disease spread to new areas.