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Title: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 26, 2017, 08:14:11 PM
Gonna throw a "GI" size can o' STERNO in the pack this year for cheap/lightweight heat, fire starting aid, and cooking on the go.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: DoubleJ on December 26, 2017, 08:42:09 PM
My grandpa on my moms side (he died before I was born) was banned by the Alachua county sheriff in Florida from purchasing alcohol because of his alcoholic, drunken antics.  Every store in the county was told not to sell to him and none of them did.

His solution was to buy Sterno, heat it up, strain off the alcohol and drink that.

The more you know.............
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 26, 2017, 08:51:37 PM
Primos Micron lantern puts out a butload of heat that will warm a pack tent up in the morning and right before bed (don't leave it burning w/o ventilation...carbon monoxide threat). Jetboil for boiling water quickly for freeze dried meals and morning java. A couple of fuel canisters go a long way if you're careful.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: ghosthunter on December 26, 2017, 09:00:47 PM
My wife bought me one of these.
Burn any thing.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 26, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
My grandpa on my moms side (he died before I was born) was banned by the Alachua county sheriff in Florida from purchasing alcohol because of his alcoholic, drunken antics.  Every store in the county was told not to sell to him and none of them did.

His solution was to buy Sterno, heat it up, strain off the alcohol and drink that.

The more you know.............

Hah!  :chuckle: It IS pretty much pure ethanol with a gelling agent from what I've read. Prolly even safer nowadays for Grandpappy to drink because it's gone "Green!"
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 26, 2017, 09:04:49 PM
Biolite. Those litter critters are pretty cool.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 26, 2017, 09:07:41 PM
2nd that - pretty wicked looking
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Jpmiller on December 28, 2017, 06:50:31 AM
I like my bio lite as well but you have to pretty well constantly be feeding it fuel
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: MADMAX on December 28, 2017, 07:12:07 AM
That biolite looks darn interesting
very clever
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 28, 2017, 07:15:31 AM
My grandpa on my moms side (he died before I was born) was banned by the Alachua county sheriff in Florida from purchasing alcohol because of his alcoholic, drunken antics.  Every store in the county was told not to sell to him and none of them did.

His solution was to buy Sterno, heat it up, strain off the alcohol and drink that.

The more you know.............

We had a night watchman who was banned from the local liquor store in the small NH town we lived in. Unknown to us, he was drinking sterno and Aqua Velva, filtered through white bread. It was sad. He was an heir to a massive Pittsburgh fortune and had been cut-off because he was unable to address his drinking problem. Not sure what ever happened to him when we let him go.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 28, 2017, 07:35:34 AM
Kifaru Smith stove.  Back before I went floorless I would just crank up my cook stove  (whichever one I was using at the time) to take the chill out of those terrible little things we call lightweight backpacking tents.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 28, 2017, 08:37:13 PM
My grandpa on my moms side (he died before I was born) was banned by the Alachua county sheriff in Florida from purchasing alcohol because of his alcoholic, drunken antics.  Every store in the county was told not to sell to him and none of them did.

His solution was to buy Sterno, heat it up, strain off the alcohol and drink that.

The more you know.............

We had a night watchman who was banned from the local liquor store in the small NH town we lived in. Unknown to us, he was drinking sterno and Aqua Velva, filtered through white bread. It was sad. He was an heir to a massive Pittsburgh fortune and had been cut-off because he was unable to address his drinking problem. Not sure what ever happened to him when we let him go.

That's the way ole Keith Whitley passed away, my favorite country singer. Wife would catch him in the bathroom drinking mouthwash and any other solvent he could get his hands on when no alcohol was around. 34 years old and on top of the world famous at the time...
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 28, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
Used to carry a Jon-e, but that mother stank too much. Make your coat smell like lighter fluid!
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 28, 2017, 09:07:38 PM
firepaste for day,  seek outside 4 lb stove for night.   Lil heavy but its nice loading it up and drying gear for 2.5 to 3 hours before reloading it - with four to five 4" logs in it. 
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Yankee on February 27, 2018, 07:58:02 PM
Pianoman,

Whereabouts in the granite state are you from?  I grew up in Auburn (outside of Manchester).

David

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We had a night watchman who was banned from the local liquor store in the small NH town we lived in. Unknown to us, he was drinking sterno and Aqua Velva, filtered through white bread. It was sad. He was an heir to a massive Pittsburgh fortune and had been cut-off because he was unable to address his drinking problem. Not sure what ever happened to him when we let him go.
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Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Stein on March 09, 2018, 07:48:40 AM
I pack a -20 rated down bag and tiny tent, never have any trouble keeping warm in this state.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 21, 2018, 05:28:01 AM
Tiny? In that its so small you have to go outside to change your mind?
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: elkchaser54 on March 24, 2018, 09:44:32 AM
As a person addicted to random camping gadgets..... My life is now complete, that biolite thing is awesome . haha
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: returnofsid on July 12, 2018, 09:10:38 PM
Reviving this thread...

So, I hunt out of a Travel Trailer, but want to be prepared, in the event that I need to spend a night or two away from camp.  I've been researching hammock systems, backpacking stoves, etc.  I already create my own dehydrated meals, and leave camp with what I would need to survive a few nights, if needed.  I'd just like to be prepared to do so, more comfortably.  In this endeavor, I've been reading a lot of this particular forum.

Anyway, last night, I read through this thread, Googling names I'd never heard of.  One of those was Biolite.  I was intrigued.  It looks like a really cool system, but out of my current price range. 

Each morning, while drinking my coffee before work, I peruse Craigslist sporting goods section.  This morning was no different.  Low and behold, what do I find...a Biolite stove and grill, for $50.00! He'd posted it late last night. I shoot a quick text to the listed number, and head for work.  Now, I'm the proud owner of a Biolite stove and grill!  I met up with him after work, to check it out.  It's the older model, with only 2 fan speeds, and no LED light, but it works great!  I brought it home, sat in my lawn chair, crumpled up a small piece of paper, and started picking up twigs and small pine cones that I could reach without even leaving my lawn chair.  Before I knew it, I was venturing out a few feet, to scrounge more twigs and pine cones.  90 minutes later, I've cleaned up the yard in about a 15 foot radius, and have had a constant fire going since.  I'm impressed!

So, to those in this particular thread, who brought the name to my attention, THANK YOU!!
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: JJB11B on July 12, 2018, 09:24:10 PM
My buddy brought his Biolite to elk camp last year, he has the bbq part and the light for his. friggen sweet!
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Jpmiller on July 12, 2018, 09:51:30 PM
If you plan on using the biolite and you have a static camping location I'd recommend picking up a bunch of pinecones during a dry day and stashing them somewhere protected.

Nothing worse than trying to keep a biolite going with soggy pinecones.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: jwfaber1 on July 16, 2018, 10:34:33 AM
This will be my first year going out during rifle season...I've been able to get a fire going in light rain or post-rain plenty of times, but how impossible is it to get one going in early november when everything will most likely be soaked? Worth attempting? Or should I just invest in a biolite or something similar
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: 2MANY on July 16, 2018, 10:43:19 AM
Wall tent and wood stove.

Heavy equals heat.......................and a surplus of it.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: jwfaber1 on July 16, 2018, 10:52:01 AM
I plan to use my normal backpacking setup and don't intend to go out and buy a bunch of new expensive shelter equipment. Maybe in a couple years, but for now I'm stuck with my lightweight big agnes tent and MSR stove. It's going to suck, but it is what it is. I may get a tarp too, so I have a little more dry space. Anyone ever have success making fires in november?
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: kselkhunter on July 16, 2018, 12:11:56 PM
I plan to use my normal backpacking setup and don't intend to go out and buy a bunch of new expensive shelter equipment. Maybe in a couple years, but for now I'm stuck with my lightweight big agnes tent and MSR stove. It's going to suck, but it is what it is. I may get a tarp too, so I have a little more dry space. Anyone ever have success making fires in november?
If you're backpacking into wilderness in November, you're likely to encounter either snow or heavy rains.   Keeping stuff dry is hard.   If snow, it's hard to find a place to build a fire, let alone dry firewood. You'll be better off with a biolite, or a backpacking stove.  I pack fatwood as well as fire starting squares to have something dry enough to get a fire going, then you'll need to stack any gathered wood next to the fire to dry it out.  You'll want a tarp to hang over your clothes as you try to dry them with heat from fire.    You'll need to dedicate enough daylight time each day to cut firewood as it'll take a few hours of burning each night to dry out your clothes. 

The other challenge to be aware of is snow load.  I've had multiple tents snap under snow load, and even my tipi pole last year in the crazy November storm we saw.   It does not take much snow load to break a 3 season backpacking tent pole.  A 4 season tent is worth the extra weight.   Waking up buried in snow really sucks, having had it happen to me a few times now....

A tipi with stove is worth the long term investement, at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: jwfaber1 on July 16, 2018, 02:38:34 PM
All good to know! I may have to consider a biolite as well.

Just sent you a PM, kselkhunter. Don't want to pull this thread too far off topic.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: returnofsid on July 16, 2018, 04:29:00 PM
For dealing with rain or snow, keep in mind, there's almost always standing dead wood nearby, whether it be a dead tree that's still standing, a downed tree with branches sticking up out of the snow, or even a living tree, that's lower branches are dead and dry.

As an experiment, I left my sprinkler on in my back yard, for close to 12 hours... ok, i forgot it was on and fell asleep. As soon as i turned it off, i walked the yard, picking up twigs and small pinecones. Within 10 minutes, i was grilling burgers on my biolite. I did use a small piece of paper, a 5" grocery receipt that was in my pocket, to assist in starting the fire. 10 minutes later, I had 3 hamburgers cooked.
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: jackelope on July 16, 2018, 06:23:45 PM
I plan to use my normal backpacking setup and don't intend to go out and buy a bunch of new expensive shelter equipment. Maybe in a couple years, but for now I'm stuck with my lightweight big agnes tent and MSR stove. It's going to suck, but it is what it is. I may get a tarp too, so I have a little more dry space. Anyone ever have success making fires in november?
If you're backpacking into wilderness in November, you're likely to encounter either snow or heavy rains.   Keeping stuff dry is hard.   If snow, it's hard to find a place to build a fire, let alone dry firewood. You'll be better off with a biolite, or a backpacking stove.  I pack fatwood as well as fire starting squares to have something dry enough to get a fire going, then you'll need to stack any gathered wood next to the fire to dry it out.  You'll want a tarp to hang over your clothes as you try to dry them with heat from fire.    You'll need to dedicate enough daylight time each day to cut firewood as it'll take a few hours of burning each night to dry out your clothes. 

The other challenge to be aware of is snow load.  I've had multiple tents snap under snow load, and even my tipi pole last year in the crazy November storm we saw.   It does not take much snow load to break a 3 season backpacking tent pole.  A 4 season tent is worth the extra weight.   Waking up buried in snow really sucks, having had it happen to me a few times now....

A tipi with stove is worth the long term investement, at some point in the future.


Snow load can be an issue in September too  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Favorite "pack heat?"
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 16, 2018, 06:24:59 PM
That biolite is affordable enuff may have to try it out. Its secret is self-powered fan to keep the fire hot like a mini forge I guess.   Course charging ur iphone is a plus.
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