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Title: Identify this dog
Post by: Seahawk12 on December 28, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
I checked my cam today and got some great pics.
Nice buck, a cougar, awesome bobcat, some coyote, and another dog.
The first pic is one of the coyotes and the second pic is the best of four pics I got of it.
I am positive it is not a domestic dog.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: SniperDanWA on December 28, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
It doesn’t look big enough to be a wolf.  His head looks domesticated.  Looking at the coyote and the dog’s positions to the logs, I think it is domesticated,.  That said, I’m no expert, just my $.02
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 28, 2017, 10:30:45 PM
Straight up wolf.  :bash:

Obviously wet side, what county?
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Seahawk12 on December 28, 2017, 10:35:07 PM
Straight up wolf.  :bash:

Obviously wet side, what county?
Snohomish.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 28, 2017, 10:38:17 PM
 :mgun:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Seahawk12 on December 29, 2017, 12:16:28 AM
Another shot. Not very good quality though.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Kit Carson on December 29, 2017, 12:28:32 AM
 :yike:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Old Dog on December 29, 2017, 01:14:18 AM
I agree, wolf.  The tail is carried like a wolf, low with no curl, and it is much larger than the coyote.  >:(
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: CementFinisher on December 29, 2017, 01:23:02 AM
get a bait up and get more cameras up
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on December 29, 2017, 03:55:27 AM
Color phase coyote  :mgun2: :mgun2: :mgun: :bfg: :hunter: :hunt2:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: STARVATION on December 29, 2017, 05:27:18 AM
Wolf.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: dreamunelk on December 29, 2017, 05:41:23 AM
That should be reported to WDFW.  Specially if an area with non documented.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 29, 2017, 06:08:49 AM
That is Stephen.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 29, 2017, 06:17:32 AM
That should be reported to WDFW.  Specially if an area with non documented.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/reporting/
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: timberghost72 on December 29, 2017, 07:45:02 AM
I have heard several accounts of folks seeing black wolves out on Green Mt. and surrounding hills in Snohomish County. No evidence that I've seen, just stories. One account from a LEO. Good catch on the cam.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Special T on December 29, 2017, 08:04:01 AM
My wife and mother described a black wolf they saw on 2 seperate occasions at Lake Cavanaugh which is near the border of  Snohomish county.
It's been rumored that the Local Bio is trying to track down a pack near Darrington.

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Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: 724wd on December 29, 2017, 08:07:18 AM
That is Stephen.

Stephen or Steppen?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: hunter399 on December 29, 2017, 08:15:11 AM
They have black coyotes Google it,that pay a lot more on fur of black coyotes .

Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: jackelope on December 29, 2017, 08:17:27 AM
After the first pic I would have put money on it being a domestic dog. That short snout and the head in general did not seem wolf like. The 2nd pic has me at least wondering.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 29, 2017, 08:23:27 AM
That is Stephen.

Stephen or Steppen?  :chuckle:

 :chuckle: Awesome!
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Timberstalker on December 29, 2017, 08:31:25 AM
After the first pic I would have put money on it being a domestic dog. That short snout and the head in general did not seem wolf like. The 2nd pic has me at least wondering.

I think it's a young wolf, because of the attributes you have listed above.  Also, the size of the body doesn't look huge, compared to the coyote.

Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: timberghost72 on December 29, 2017, 08:31:53 AM
After the first pic I would have put money on it being a domestic dog. That short snout and the head in general did not seem wolf like. The 2nd pic has me at least wondering.

 :yeah:
That was my thought too.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: hunter399 on December 29, 2017, 08:45:38 AM
No its a coywolf ,before u know coyote hunting will be gone.

Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 29, 2017, 08:54:03 AM
Coywolves are legal to shoot.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: h20hunter on December 29, 2017, 08:59:42 AM
That black one is Bill The Fawn Destroyer. He doesnt like labels such as wolf or menace. He likes running in packs, peeing on things,  eating animals with faces, and is prone to howls after drinking from tge beaver pond. Bill comes from a very well ofg family and is protected and sheltered even when caught misbehaving. He is looked upon often with great jealously by his cousin Wile E. Coyote since Wile can't get a break. He wants to eat just one pesky bird and gets blown up, attached to rockets, and smashed by anvils for just being himself.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 29, 2017, 10:06:45 AM
https://www.goskagit.com/news/wildlife-officials-tracking-wolf-in-east-skagit-county/article_ff757d07-9739-5d88-a684-93e9a223a5cd.html


See the resemblance now.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: X-Force on December 29, 2017, 10:28:14 AM
 :yeah:

Definitely report it.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: jackelope on December 29, 2017, 10:58:53 AM
https://www.goskagit.com/news/wildlife-officials-tracking-wolf-in-east-skagit-county/article_ff757d07-9739-5d88-a684-93e9a223a5cd.html


See the resemblance now.

Someone with WDFW must have picked it up in a truck and moved it to Snohomish county. Couldn't possibly have walked that far all on it's own.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: hollymaster on December 30, 2017, 09:25:49 AM
https://www.goskagit.com/news/wildlife-officials-tracking-wolf-in-east-skagit-county/article_ff757d07-9739-5d88-a684-93e9a223a5cd.html


See the resemblance now.
Road runner rocketed him over.  :chuckle:

Someone with WDFW must have picked it up in a truck and moved it to Snohomish county. Couldn't possibly have walked that far all on it's own.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on December 30, 2017, 09:32:32 AM
Tough to tell if its a wolf or dog.  Probably worth reporting.

The coyote and black dog both look pretty well fed.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Cylvertip on December 30, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
W
Straight up wolf.  :bash:

Obviously wet side, what county?
Snohomish.

What Drainage?

I saw tracks up above the North Fork of the Sauk almost 20 years ago during the middle of winter.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 30, 2017, 12:54:26 PM
That is Stephen.

Stephen or Steppen?  :chuckle:

Stephenwolf. Born to be wild.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Milkman on December 30, 2017, 01:18:27 PM
Color phase coyote  :mgun2: :mgun2: :mgun: :bfg: :hunter: :hunt2:
LMAO
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: HighlandLofts on December 30, 2017, 04:53:18 PM
One way to find out is to shoot it as a coyote then have the DNA checked out.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: jackelope on December 30, 2017, 05:26:26 PM
One way to find out is to shoot it as a coyote then have the DNA checked out.

Sort of like saying shoot a mountain lion and check later to see if it's a bobcat?
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: wheels on December 30, 2017, 05:41:21 PM
kinda looks Sheppard  mut  but could be wrong
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on January 03, 2018, 11:03:24 PM
Straight-up timberwoof - no question  :bfg:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Seahawk12 on January 05, 2018, 10:54:23 AM
2 weeks have gone by and I decided to go up and take a look.

To give a little back ground on this whole thing let me quickly explain the situation for you all.
My daughter has been shooting bow for two years now. She showed a strong interest in going hunting with me and has progressed to the point in strength and accuracy that we set 2018 as her inaugural season.
I spent much of free-time in the last year scouting through the mountains looking for just the right set-up for her.
I finally found the spot that would work.
It has terrain she can handle with a natural blind over looking an active area.
Best of all is that it had a beauty of a resident buck. I crossed my fingers that the buck would make it through this years hunting season and supplemented his diet for maximum health and antler growth. Luck held and he made it through.
Every three to four weeks I went up and changed out trail cam batteries and brought my daughter along to get used to the area and to practice moving through the forest quietly and efficiently.
Then, this predator showed up on camera. It had me pretty worried and I decided to go on up and check the camera to see if it was going to hang around or keep migrating out of the area. What I found just 15 feet away from The trail cam was a hard hit.
The camera had 1200 images over the course of two days that started within hours of our leaving the last time we were up there but, the action that was triggering the cam was just out of frame on every single one of them.
I'm adding the pics that I took with my phone of what I found  left of the buck.
I can't prove what killed him as it may have just been coincidence, but in my mind it seems to great a coincidence.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Duckgtr on January 05, 2018, 11:04:19 AM
That was a dandy too. Damn.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Curly on January 05, 2018, 11:09:29 AM
Oh that sucks.  :(
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 05, 2018, 11:20:24 AM
Sorry to see that has spoiled your plans, but I would say that that was an invaluable hunting experience, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 05, 2018, 11:33:31 AM
Oh that sucks.  :(

Cat or that wolf.  :bash:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Special T on January 05, 2018, 11:35:37 AM
There is no shortage of cats along the Skagit Snohomish line...

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Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: ThomMedic on January 05, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
Years ago around JBLM I kept encountering an animal that looked almost German Shepard and a wolf.  Wild life management on Fort Lewis could not give me a straight answer. Then I heard about people in Pierce County that were raising hybrids as a hobby. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: brokemillwright on January 05, 2018, 08:13:28 PM
growing up we had a half wolf/half German sheeperd that would routinely fight coyotes. one night we hear him going at it and dad puts the spotlight on him and we couldn't tell him from the other.  turns out dnr had released a few wolves to take care of the deer that were eating the trees they had the inmates plant. this was around 2002 in Lewis county

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Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Curly on January 05, 2018, 10:34:55 PM
growing up we had a half wolf/half German sheeperd that would routinely fight coyotes. one night we hear him going at it and dad puts the spotlight on him and we couldn't tell him from the other.  turns out dnr had released a few wolves to take care of the deer that were eating the trees they had the inmates plant. this was around 2002 in Lewis county

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Are you sure of that? :dunno:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: idaho guy on January 06, 2018, 06:27:24 PM
It’s a Wolf
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: hunter399 on January 06, 2018, 07:19:34 PM
growing up we had a half wolf/half German sheeperd that would routinely fight coyotes. one night we hear him going at it and dad puts the spotlight on him and we couldn't tell him from the other.  turns out dnr had released a few wolves to take care of the deer that were eating the trees they had the inmates plant. this was around 2002 in Lewis county

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Are you sure of that? :dunno:

We always had story's the old timers could tell ya about wild dogs in northeast Washington , And it always starts off this dog ran off and bred with coyotes and the story always ended you see any wild dog up here hunting ,shoot em.
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2018, 09:17:15 PM
Well, I question the part about DNR releasing wolves. I seriously doubt that info got told or heard correctly. DNR would not do that.

It's a big enough stretch  to believe that WDFW has tranported and released wolves (I don't believe that for a second but can see why some may believe it with wdfw) but it seriously is laughable to believe DNR would have used wolves to reduce the deer population.  No way would they have done that.

 :sry: but it's just really not something that the Department of Natural Resources would have done.

I've heard stories of Weyerhaeuser dropping off wolves. While I don't buy into that story either, it is at least something that isn't beyond belief. :twocents:
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: brokemillwright on January 06, 2018, 09:46:14 PM
yep made it all up and didn't see what I saw

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Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2018, 09:49:33 PM
I believe you saw it. What makes you think DNR planted wolves?
Title: Re: Identify this dog
Post by: Scheindogg on January 07, 2018, 09:42:43 AM
No its a coywolf ,before u know coyote hunting will be gone.

:yeah:
Wouldn’t surprise me if either or both are coywolfs
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