Post by: SeaRun1 on December 30, 2017, 02:35:28 PM
I have done a little research and like the Silent SR from Ruger and the Dead Air suppressor. They are both $449 which seems really expensive to me when you add in the $200 fee for getting one from the government.
Can I buy one for a 223 and use it for 22 LR? How quiet are they? Do you have one that you can recommend?
Thanks for the advice.
SR1
Post by: huntandjeep on December 30, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
You could buy one rated for .223 and use it for a .22 but they are heavier and bigger. That's what I 1st did . Then decided to get a dedicated .22 can.
Post by: ASHQUACK on December 30, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
Post by: b23 on December 30, 2017, 03:36:50 PM
Post by: swordtine on December 30, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
The TBAC 22 Take down would be my first choice for a dedicated rimfire suppressor closely followed by the Dead Air Mask and Spectre II. If you plan to use a suppressor on 22lr a lot getting one that you can take apart and clean is better than getting a sealed centerfire suppressor that you can't take apart. You can clean sealed suppressors also but it's a different process and not nearly as easy as one you can take apart to clean yourself.
What do you think about the design on Gemtech's .22 can? Thought their single piece core looks pretty quick for disassembly and cleaning ! I too am looking at .22 cans and think the tbac and dead air would be hard to beat but the $$$ hurts...
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 30, 2017, 05:06:28 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on December 30, 2017, 05:38:26 PM
Gemtech is GTG. I have one for 556. Only thing I don't like about monocore i s if you have baffle strike in a baffle can you can replace a couple baffles cheaper than having to replace the entire monocore .The TBAC 22 Take down would be my first choice for a dedicated rimfire suppressor closely followed by the Dead Air Mask and Spectre II. If you plan to use a suppressor on 22lr a lot getting one that you can take apart and clean is better than getting a sealed centerfire suppressor that you can't take apart. You can clean sealed suppressors also but it's a different process and not nearly as easy as one you can take apart to clean yourself.
What do you think about the design on Gemtech's .22 can? Thought their single piece core looks pretty quick for disassembly and cleaning ! I too am looking at .22 cans and think the tbac and dead air would be hard to beat but the $$$ hurts...
Post by: huntandjeep on December 30, 2017, 05:46:30 PM
My GEMTECH is good for 5.56-300 mag. I personally wouldn't waste my time and money on a CAN for a 22.So is mine buy why would I hange a can that weighs 17oz off the front of my 22/45 , when I could hang 6.5 oz off it :dunno:
Post by: Fungunnin on December 30, 2017, 07:34:41 PM
My GEMTECH is good for 5.56-300 mag. I personally wouldn't waste my time and money on a CAN for a 22.I have 3 cans. One for 22's one for rifle up to 30 cal and one for center fire pistols up to 45. Those three pretty cover any gun I would want to suppress as I have no plan on buying a rifle larger than 30 cal.
Of the 3 cans the 22 gets shot about 75% of the time. It is a blast to shot 22 quiet.
I have an SWR Sparrow and love it. Mono core is easy to disassemble and clean. Which I believe it pretty much mandatory on a 22 can. They get super dirty.
The difference between a cheap 22 can and a top of the line can is only a few hundred bucks. You might as well spend the extra money because after waiting 10 months for your paperwork to clear the worst thing would be to wish you had the lighter/quieter/easier to clean model.
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Post by: aaronoto on December 30, 2017, 07:37:04 PM
My GEMTECH is good for 5.56-300 mag. I personally wouldn't waste my time and money on a CAN for a 22.
Gotta agree here, I would never recommend a .22 can as your first one to get. Go multi-caliber and get one that will cover your centerfire rifles. I'm partial to AAC although my next will either be Surefire or TBAC. You'll pay more, but considering it can cover 3-4 rifles, makes it worth it in my opinion. But I guess if you only shoot a .22 then go for it.
Post by: b23 on December 30, 2017, 08:15:17 PM
The TBAC 22 Take down would be my first choice for a dedicated rimfire suppressor closely followed by the Dead Air Mask and Spectre II. If you plan to use a suppressor on 22lr a lot getting one that you can take apart and clean is better than getting a sealed centerfire suppressor that you can't take apart. You can clean sealed suppressors also but it's a different process and not nearly as easy as one you can take apart to clean yourself.
What do you think about the design on Gemtech's .22 can? Thought their single piece core looks pretty quick for disassembly and cleaning ! I too am looking at .22 cans and think the tbac and dead air would be hard to beat but the $$$ hurts...
I think the vast majority of them work well, it's just that some are a little quieter and lighter than others.
I have TBAC and SAS rifle suppressors with a Dead Air Ghost as my pistol suppressor. Both TBAC and SAS are some of the quietest, lightest, and most accurate cans on the market so for me, they are what I have and use.
If I were starting all over again, I'd get a TBAC 22 Take Down suppressor to use on everything in the rimfire line as well as the 17/22 Hornet and 5.7x28 then look at getting a TBAC Ultra7 .30cal can to use on all my centerfire rifles .30 cal and smaller. With those two suppressors a person would cover a pretty wide range of guns.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 30, 2017, 09:01:03 PM
The Silencershop is always having specials, so maybe you could pickup 2 for under a $1300 including the tax stamp. :dunno:
Setup a Trust too.
Post by: DJ_Mack on December 31, 2017, 08:55:36 AM
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Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 31, 2017, 09:04:34 AM
Post by: huntandjeep on December 31, 2017, 06:29:06 PM
Just get yourself an 80% and avoid all the hassle. Comes with all the collets to finish the machining easy with a hand drill. Sellin em down at Gimme Guns in Selah.Are 80 % supressors even a thing ? Or are you talking about " Solvent traps " .
How does it avoid the hassle ? You still need a stamp to legally own a suppressor. Getting a can that's 80 % complete would require a stamp to manufacture the rest would it not ?
Post by: SeaRun1 on December 31, 2017, 07:23:55 PM
Having a .30 cal can and a .22lr can, I would say both are equally important. I bought the .30 cal can first, and as soon as I did I realized I wanted a .22 can for the ability to go really quiet. My question to the OP would be do you want hearing safe or the fun factor? If fun go .22. They are crazy quiet. Especially out of a .22 pistol. If you want to hunt and shoot your AR get a multi can. I would recommend getting both. Once you have one you will want them for all your guns. Do not shoot .22lr through centerfire suppressors. The lead build up is crazy! And having a serviceable.22lr can is extremely important.
I want to shoot quietly for fun. I want to plink with the wife after work to get her more in to shooting. I may want a rifle suppressor down the road but I have zero threaded guns at this point in time.
SR1
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Post by: KFhunter on December 31, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
I want to shoot quietly for fun. I want to plink with the wife after work to get her more in to shooting. I may want a rifle suppressor down the road but I have zero threaded guns at this point in time.
SR1
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Makes since :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on December 31, 2017, 07:31:39 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on December 31, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 02, 2018, 07:01:28 AM
My GEMTECH is good for 5.56-300 mag. I personally wouldn't waste my time and money on a CAN for a 22.So is mine buy why would I hange a can that weighs 17oz off the front of my 22/45 , when I could hang 6.5 oz off it :dunno:
Can't answer except, I don't care because it's a cool factor thing. Lighten up the gun so it all evens itself out.... :dunno: besides, a pound for me means nothing anyhow, because I can't hike anymore. :chuckle:
Post by: birdshooter1189 on January 02, 2018, 09:18:04 AM
Just get yourself an 80% and avoid all the hassle. Comes with all the collets to finish the machining easy with a hand drill. Sellin em down at Gimme Guns in Selah.Are 80 % supressors even a thing ? Or are you talking about " Solvent traps " .
How does it avoid the hassle ? You still need a stamp to legally own a suppressor. Getting a can that's 80 % complete would require a stamp to manufacture the rest would it not ?
I don't know about buying an "80% suppressor". However I have built 2 myself from scratch.
Yes, you DO still need a stamp to manufacture it. Form 4 stamp for transferring a suppressor, Form 1 stamp for manufacturing one. Basically the same form with the same details.
For a Form 1, you fill out the paperwork and send it in just like a form 4. AFTER you get your approved paperwork back and stamp, then you can manufacture the suppressor per the specs that you listed on the form and then stamp the required information on the side of it. (serial number, model number, etc.).
Do the research yourself if you are considering an 80% suppressor. But I would think the way it works is that you could buy the 80% parts whenever with no paperwork. But I would not begin "finishing" it until I had my Form 1 stamp in hand.
Post by: Yondering on January 02, 2018, 10:29:03 AM
The TBAC 22 Take down would be my first choice for a dedicated rimfire suppressor closely followed by the Dead Air Mask and Spectre II. If you plan to use a suppressor on 22lr a lot getting one that you can take apart and clean is better than getting a sealed centerfire suppressor that you can't take apart. You can clean sealed suppressors also but it's a different process and not nearly as easy as one you can take apart to clean yourself.
What do you think about the design on Gemtech's .22 can? Thought their single piece core looks pretty quick for disassembly and cleaning ! I too am looking at .22 cans and think the tbac and dead air would be hard to beat but the $$$ hurts...
I think the vast majority of them work well, it's just that some are a little quieter and lighter than others.
He's specifically asking about Gemtech's .22 can, the GM-22. Sorry to say, it sucks, don't waste your money. They had a really good performer in the Outback series, but abandoned that and went with this newer monocore design that's cheaper to manufacture. It's a lot louder than my old Outback II; I'd expect anyone that bought one to be disappointed if they've heard other good .22 cans.
I disagree with the recomendations to get a centerfire rifle can instead. There's a huge difference in size and weight compared to a decent .22 suppressor, and if a guy just wants a way to do some quiet plinking with the family, nothing beats a .22 for that.
Post by: huntandjeep on January 02, 2018, 11:15:36 AM
I know all about being able to make your own can and the different stamps required. Was just questioning Calvin Rayborn when he said " Just get yourself an 80% and avoid the hassle " . There is still the hassle ( wait & $ ) of the form 1 .Just get yourself an 80% and avoid all the hassle. Comes with all the collets to finish the machining easy with a hand drill. Sellin em down at Gimme Guns in Selah.Are 80 % supressors even a thing ? Or are you talking about " Solvent traps " .
How does it avoid the hassle ? You still need a stamp to legally own a suppressor. Getting a can that's 80 % complete would require a stamp to manufacture the rest would it not ?
I don't know about buying an "80% suppressor". However I have built 2 myself from scratch.
Yes, you DO still need a stamp to manufacture it. Form 4 stamp for transferring a suppressor, Form 1 stamp for manufacturing one. Basically the same form with the same details.
For a Form 1, you fill out the paperwork and send it in just like a form 4. AFTER you get your approved paperwork back and stamp, then you can manufacture the suppressor per the specs that you listed on the form and then stamp the required information on the side of it. (serial number, model number, etc.).
Do the research yourself if you are considering an 80% suppressor. But I would think the way it works is that you could buy the 80% parts whenever with no paperwork. But I would not begin "finishing" it until I had my Form 1 stamp in hand.
Post by: Yondering on January 02, 2018, 02:22:05 PM
I know all about being able to make your own can and the different stamps required. Was just questioning Calvin Rayborn when he said " Just get yourself an 80% and avoid the hassle " . There is still the hassle ( wait & $ ) of the form 1 .
Yes, just as much "hassle" with paperwork, and then more hassle to build it without the right tools, and you end up with a generally inferior suppressor anyway. (If do have the right tools, you can build your own from scratch, that's different.) About the only thing you really save with a solvent trap suppressor build is some cash, but even that doesn't always work out.