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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Damnimissed on January 05, 2018, 11:42:18 AM

Title: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: Damnimissed on January 05, 2018, 11:42:18 AM: Anybody tried this yet?
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: GoexBlackhorn on January 12, 2018, 04:35:18 PM: I like it better than Blackhorn or Goex. It's sister is the Blue MZ pellets.
I discontinued 777, Pyrodex and American Pioneer/Shockeys years ago.
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: Harleysboss on January 15, 2018, 04:16:23 PM: I just tried it today for the first time. Shot it in my Knight MK85 54cal. RWS 1075 caps (#11) Granulation is kinda course so it does not slide through my powder flask as smoothly as others do. Fast ignition and seems clean burning and still smokes like real BP. I found that you do have to compress the powder in the bore pretty well. I loaded powder then used a flat faced jag and made 3 hard presses down on the powder. I could feel it compressing down. Then loaded my sabot/bullet combo. Gave another good press with that. Accuracy seemed to be there once I started using this loading sequence. Cleaned the same as usual.
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: GoexBlackhorn on January 20, 2018, 06:38:48 AM: No matter what loose powder I once use, I always leaned hard on the ramrod / T-handle or round bullet starter at the tip of the ramrod.
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: floatinghat on January 23, 2018, 11:17:44 AM: Quote from: Harleysboss on January 15, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
I just tried it today for the first time. Shot it in my Knight MK85 54cal. RWS 1075 caps (#11) Granulation is kinda course so it does not slide through my powder flask as smoothly as others do. Fast ignition and seems clean burning and still smokes like real BP. I found that you do have to compress the powder in the bore pretty well. I loaded powder then used a flat faced jag and made 3 hard presses down on the powder. I could feel it compressing down. Then loaded my sabot/bullet combo. Gave another good press with that. Accuracy seemed to be there once I started using this loading sequence. Cleaned the same as usual.

How much of a difference in POI if you don't compress? I am thinking about a follow up shot. Also, how does the granularity effect the consistancy in loads? I bought a couple jars but haven't had the chance to open one yet. So far most reviews have been fairly positive.
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: Sabotloader on January 23, 2018, 12:19:31 PM: Quote from: floatinghat on January 23, 2018, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: Harleysboss on January 15, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
I just tried it today for the first time. Shot it in my Knight MK85 54cal. RWS 1075 caps (#11) Granulation is kinda course so it does not slide through my powder flask as smoothly as others do. Fast ignition and seems clean burning and still smokes like real BP. I found that you do have to compress the powder in the bore pretty well. I loaded powder then used a flat faced jag and made 3 hard presses down on the powder. I could feel it compressing down. Then loaded my sabot/bullet combo. Gave another good press with that. Accuracy seemed to be there once I started using this loading sequence. Cleaned the same as usual.

How much of a difference in POI if you don't compress? I am thinking about a follow up shot. Also, how does the granularity effect the consistancy in loads? I bought a couple jars but haven't had the chance to open one yet. So far most reviews have been fairly positive.

Do not open it until you are ready to use it - it really takes in moisture and will form clumps in the bottle.. It really reminds me of cat litter but, it does meter fairly well. I have shot a couple of bottles of - actually shot one and 1/2 bottles - the last half I poured into the flower garden.

It burns well and for me it was accurate but does not produce the velocity of T7.

You can see the clump forming in this bottle. It comes with moisture absorption packs in the powder,

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Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: Harleysboss on February 06, 2018, 05:03:30 PM: Sabot loader is spot on about the powder clumping. I opened my powder flask and the powder was set hard in a large clump. Had to bang it on the carpeted floor a couple of times just to get it moving. My bottle has been opened for about 2 weeks and has been stored in a climate controlled heated room in my house. I dont think I will buy any more.
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: GoexBlackhorn on February 07, 2018, 04:17:29 PM: Just make sure humidity control is part of your climate control system.

I am new to the Alliant Blue MZ pellets and looking forward to testing them in damp weather this spring.
Title: Re: Alliant Black MZ
Post by: Irish_hunter93 on March 06, 2018, 05:01:01 PM: I prefer the black mz myself. I've never had a misfire, or a hangfire in about 2 years out of the samecontainer. Cleans up well to. My :twocents: