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Title: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: syoungs on January 08, 2018, 08:51:56 AM: Ive got a brand new mec600 jr sitting in my shop, that ive had for a few years. I would like to put it to use, and start making some shotshells, but its never panned out fiscally for the amount of shells I will shoot in a year. normally I will go through 1-2 cases of lead shotshells between trap/skeet and hunting, and a case or so of steel 3' for waterfowl.

I know that I wont save money by reloading my own shot, but it seems like the benefits would be in finding a load that my shotgun patterns very well, and possibly loading some denser then steel loads if I could source the shot.

anyone in here load shotshells care to comment as the the why, and what benefits I may see that im not considering?
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: jasnt on January 08, 2018, 09:03:09 AM: Just as you stated. It's not cheaper! But when you find that combo that works better than anything you tried otc. The light will come on. Also if you ever tried to find #4 buck loads that is one place I saved money loading my own shot shells.
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: jasnt on January 08, 2018, 09:04:52 AM: I recommend the Lyman shot shell reloading Manuel. Fwiw you can't work up a load in shot shell loading. Stick to book recipes
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: Bill W on January 08, 2018, 09:06:21 AM: Quote from: jasnt on January 08, 2018, 09:04:52 AM
I recommend the Lyman shot shell reloading Manuel. Fwiw you can't work up a load in shot shell loading. Stick to book recipes

Excellent advice about sticking to book recipes.
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: Special T on January 08, 2018, 09:21:05 AM: For those of you whom reload vs those whom have put some time in finding the load you gun likes and then buying a case or 2 is there a difference? I've also found that honing out my barrel with some atf and a scotch brite pad every year or so has made my patterns more consistant.

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Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: Henrydog on January 08, 2018, 09:31:16 AM: I load between 8-12k trap loads a year on a Mec 600. Get the Lyman book and stick to published loads, Period.

You will not save any money unless you are trying to duplicate AA or Nitro 27 handicap loads. If you are only shooting 2 cases a year you will come out at a loss. A flat of STS's is $79.00, with good lead at 40 bucks a bag (which makes about 300 1 1/8 loads) $32 for 1000 Winchester Primers and $10 for 500 wads you can see you are not saving anything and that is before the powder price. It only pencils out for me because I shoot 2 cases a weekend of expensive shells.

I recommend starting with STS or Nitro hulls, they are the easiest to reload and have the most recipes.
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: CP on January 08, 2018, 09:44:46 AM: Last I calculated I could load trap shells for about $3/box. That’s - 7/8 oz lead, Noble Sport primers, Promo powder, Clay buster wads. Not STS quality but they break flying painted pieces of dirt just fine.

Loading steel shot on the other hand isn’t worth the effort IMO.
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: Bwana Bob on January 08, 2018, 09:46:24 AM: I like loading for my 1930's vintage 16ga SxS. The 1 oz loads I make for it kill quail and huns over a pointing dog just as well as the factory 1 1/8 factory loads I was using and are cheaper to make. I still load for my other two SxS, a 12 and 20ga but I like doing it. One ounce 12ga loads with Clay's powder work real well on quail also. I just wish the price of shot wasn't so high.

Now if I could only tie fly's as well as Bill W, I'd be a happier man before I died.
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: Special T on January 08, 2018, 10:24:34 AM: Quote from: Bwana Bob on January 08, 2018, 09:46:24 AM
I like loading for my 1930's vintage 16ga SxS. The 1 oz loads I make for it kill quail and huns over a pointing dog just as well as the factory 1 1/8 factory loads I was using and are cheaper to make. I still load for my other two SxS, a 12 and 20ga but I like doing it. One ounce 12ga loads with Clay's powder work real well on quail also. I just wish the price of shot wasn't so high.

Now if I could only tie fly's as well as Bill W, I'd be a happier man before I died.
I thing gauges like your 16, 28, or 410 should pay dividends because they normally cost a premium.

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Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: syoungs on January 08, 2018, 10:42:06 AM: Quote from: jasnt on January 08, 2018, 09:03:09 AM
Just as you stated. It's not cheaper! But when you find that combo that works better than anything you tried otc. The light will come on. Also if you ever tried to find #4 buck loads that is one place I saved money loading my own shot shells.

the #4 buck is a big driver of me setting the press up actually, I cant even find it locally.

I think im gonna go ahead and play around with it some, I believe I even have a copy of the lyman shotshell manual at home, would have to double check what it is.

Worst case, im out some money in the end, I can guarantee you ive spent more money on worse hobbies lol.
Title: Re: shot shell reloading, can it be worthwhile?
Post by: jasnt on January 08, 2018, 11:08:26 AM: I can give you my #4 buck load. Can't remember the name but bought a buck shot only Manuel. It's a 3" load with 43 pellets @1300ish if I remember correctly. Hulls are the black 3" win super X I save from my turkey loads. Low pressure load