Post by: Tjkride on January 15, 2018, 07:57:37 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on January 15, 2018, 09:26:40 PM
Post by: nwwanderer on January 15, 2018, 10:23:49 PM
Post by: Forks on January 16, 2018, 05:49:39 AM
Post by: T-Bone on January 16, 2018, 06:19:22 AM
BTW, what is jblm shorthand for? Forgive my ignorance, I'm an old guy who lives in E.WA.
Post by: Curly on January 16, 2018, 06:24:12 AM
Fort Lewis and McCord were combined a while back.
Post by: Bill W on January 16, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
Post by: Tjkride on January 16, 2018, 07:55:52 AM
Post by: T-Bone on January 16, 2018, 08:18:45 AM
The steel shot options in 28 Ga. are 5/8 oz. of #6 steel shot; not a great pheasant load. Kent does offer a 7/8 oz. load of #6 bismuth in 28 Ga. and I have shot pheasants with it, but it is pricey.
In 20 Ga., many more choices; Kent's 3" 7/8 oz. load of #3 steel or the 1 oz. loads of #3 or #2 steel from Federal and others work well on pheasants and ducks, too. Kent's 1 oz. load of #5 Bismuth is great, but again somewhat expensive , per shell.
Non-toxic shot is mandatory for waterfowl and on State Pheasant Release Sites and Federal Wildlife Refuges; P/U a FREE Waterfowl & Upland Bird Reg. Book at any licensing vendor or check the WDFW website for specific area listings:
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/
I use my 28 Ga.'s to hunt forest grouse, CA. quail, Huns (gray partridge) and the occasional pheasant here in E. WA.
Try posting followup questions in the Upland Forum of this website.
Post by: AWS on January 16, 2018, 08:25:27 AM
I picked up a 20ga CZ Bobwhite to shoot steel for high volume shoots where soft non-toxics would be very expensive to shoot. I do all my upland and waterfowl hunting with older sxs's and bismuth or ITX shot.
Post by: Tjkride on January 16, 2018, 08:46:50 AM
Post by: Wacenturion on January 16, 2018, 09:26:47 AM
Post by: magnanimous_j on January 16, 2018, 09:31:46 AM
You have to admit though, the 28 gauge is a lot more... romantic.
Post by: Tjkride on January 16, 2018, 09:37:49 AM
Post by: Curly on January 16, 2018, 11:15:49 AM
Thanks for all the replies. If all the pheasants on this side are released I most likely wont hunt them. I dont have a bird dog and use hunting birds as an excuse to walk through the woods all day and cook a nice bird over the fire while Im out there. So it seems about even on 20 vs 28. Is steel shot mandatory for upland birds in certain places?
If no bird dog, I'd skip pheasant hunting too. Grouse on the other hand can be decent hunting without a dog and 28ga would be fine for ruffed grouse. Now, I wouldn't consider grouse hunting to be all that good anymore around much of western Wa, but if you work at it you may do okay. 28 ga would also be fine since you likely aren't getting a lot of shooting anyway so price of ammo is really not that much of an issue anyway. :twocents:
Post by: wadu1 on January 16, 2018, 11:34:35 AM
Go with the 28 hands down the best.
:twocents:
Post by: jackson7 on January 16, 2018, 01:59:04 PM
Post by: Alpine Mojo on January 22, 2018, 06:08:26 PM
20 gauge, more pellets
Why bring facts into the discussion? The 28 gauge purists don't like to hear that. They only want to talk about "romance" for the 28 gauge. Whatever that means.
When I think of romance, it involves women. Beautiful women. Beautiful women cooking dinner for me with meat that I've killed with my 20 gauge. Delicious and decadent meat. Cooked over an open flame. Organic, free range, wild and free. The way God intended it.
God Bless 'Merica.
Post by: Bill W on January 23, 2018, 06:53:43 AM
20 gauge, more pellets
Why bring facts into the discussion? The 28 gauge purists don't like to hear that. They only want to talk about "romance" for the 28 gauge. Whatever that means.
When I think of romance, it involves women. Beautiful women. Beautiful women cooking dinner for me with meat that I've killed with my 20 gauge. Delicious and decadent meat. Cooked over an open flame. Organic, free range, wild and free. The way God intended it.
God Bless 'Merica.
Buy a 28 gauge and live next to this guy's dream. Have an extra place set at the table for you.
Post by: Tjkride on January 23, 2018, 07:32:43 AM
Post by: biggfish on January 23, 2018, 07:46:25 AM
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Post by: Tjkride on January 23, 2018, 09:47:15 AM
Post by: AWS on January 23, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
Post by: Tjkride on January 23, 2018, 11:34:59 AM
Post by: tlbradford on January 24, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Post by: T-Bone on January 24, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
If JBLM is a state funded release sight and you need to buy a west side pheasant card I'm pretty sure you need to shoot non-toxic. I don't hunt release sights so I don't know who is in controll of the release program at JBLM.
You are correct AWS; on p.20 of the 2017/2018 WA Migratory & Upland Game Seasons, Fort Lewis is listed as one of the Non-Toxic Shot Zones.
To repeat, the 20 Ga. offers far better choices in non-toxic shot. However, you seem fixed on the 28 Ga. so...the Kent Bismuth load of 7/8 oz. of #6 will kill preserve pheasants and when out in the National Forest the standard 3/4 oz. #6 or # 7 1/2 lead shot will take forest grouse. If you plan to do any waterfowl hunting at all get the 20 Ga. and use #3 or #2 steel shot in the 3" shell.
Post by: ribka on January 24, 2018, 09:08:04 PM
If you're considering the 20 gauge solely for practical considerations, you'll regret not getting the 28. I'm a big fan of the 20 myself, but I'm very practical when it comes to my gun choices (I like cheap ammo and versatility).
You have to admit though, the 28 gauge is a lot more... romantic.
"romantic?"
how is the 28 gauge more "romantic" than a 16 gauge? What does this mean? I own 2 28's, Europeans in 16 , 20 10, and numerous 12's and 20's in every configuration for 40 years.
It is sad when a troll, who know nothing of firearms and is anti-gun and supports politicians who introduce legislation to ban all firearms and hunting, , comes on here posting advice about firearms.
Really
It's really hysterical when anti hunting trolls come onhere and give firearms advice