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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: hhack on January 16, 2018, 09:50:21 AM

Title: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: hhack on January 16, 2018, 09:50:21 AM: What’s your favorite load? Also seems like whole country is sold out. If anyone has some coyote loads in lead I’d pay top dollar. Looking for 3 1/2 or 3 inch 12 gauge.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: PolarBear on January 16, 2018, 09:52:37 AM: 00 buck :chuckle:
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: magnanimous_j on January 16, 2018, 09:54:21 AM: #1 buckshot puts them down pretty good.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: CP on January 16, 2018, 10:00:03 AM: #4 Buck works fine as well. I have a bunch of 3" lead #2s that I can't legally use for anything else but they also work on yotes.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: andersonjk4 on January 16, 2018, 10:01:44 AM: Only coyote I have killed with my shotgun was with a 2 3/4" #4 pheasant load. My dogs ran the yote out of a brushy area right toward me. Shot it at about 15 yards and it dies in another 15 yards. That being said I have a box of 3 1/2" Hevi Shot Dead Coyote that I always take with me when I am trying to call in yotes, but I haven't gotten one into range yet.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: bobcat on January 16, 2018, 10:03:49 AM: Lead BB's in a 3" shell. Relatively cheap and effective.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: pashok23 on January 16, 2018, 10:41:08 AM: Quote from: bobcat on January 16, 2018, 10:03:49 AM
Lead BB's in a 3" shell. Relatively cheap and effective.
sportmanswarehouse carry those
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Special T on January 16, 2018, 10:52:10 AM: Off the shelf the BBB Turkey loads work pretty good. Use a turkey choke and your good to go I feel they work best aiming for the head. I've heard that these small holes are prefer when skinning for a mount or for fur sale.

My personal favorite is a home grown solution. I bought to Do It brand sling shot pellet mould. It has 1 kinds of shot size with an 1 ounce pour. One side has 11 cavities the other 9. Depending on how much tin content you have the 11 pour side works out some where between 0 buck & #1. I've used wheel weights, but have switched to what ever is in a trap load.

I buy a case of 100 trap rounds at Wal-Mart runs $30ish dollars. I open up the crimp and pour the lead out, melt and use the 11 cavity side. Once cooled I stack the #1 In the shot shell. You can get 9 of the pellets in 3 stacks of 3 I bend the crimps back over by hand then use a flat bladed screw driver to work the crimp down near factory specs.

I have shot well over a hundred of these and they work quite well out of my waterfowl gun. They throw a nice pattern and cannot be beat price wise. I have killed coyotes in the 60 to 70 yard range and folded them up with more than one pellet. I belive the key to the success is the use of a shot cup. Most buck shot spins as it contacts the barrel sides putting spin on the shot. The trap shot wad eliminates that spin. I would imagine there is shot deformation from the detonation force, and can tell you when I used wheel eights exclusively there was enough tin contact to prevent most of it. Patterns open up with the remelted shot.

I have also used some of the Estate 00 buck that I have purchased at Bi Mart. On sale I think I purchased them for $12 a box of 25. Another affordable option for closer in work as they spread quicker. Midway USA had several sales for case lots of Estate and Sellor & Bellot 250 rounds for $90 delivered.

Hope this information helps.

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Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: jdb on January 16, 2018, 05:29:42 PM: I’ve killed several with #4 buck but have never been able to get than to pattern as tight as I’d like. Same with some #2’s. I’ve always wondered about a turkey choke and #4 birdshot. Some of those turkey loads shoot super tight and I don’t see why they wouldn’t KO a coyote? :dunno:
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Mtnwalker on January 16, 2018, 05:34:50 PM: The Hevi shot Dead Coyote has been pretty killer for us. Super expensive but usually a box of 10 equals at least 5-6 dead dogs, to me that's worth the cost. With the matching choke tube I think it way out performs buckshot. :twocents:
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Tracker0721 on January 16, 2018, 05:48:47 PM: Hornady heavy shot coyote. Sportsmans warehouse has it on the shelf. Does a good deal to coyotes, I might have a box if you’re still looking. Bang flops.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2018, 10:31:46 AM: Midway USA is having a sale 79.99for 250 rounds of 00 buckshot Seller and Bellot

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Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: birddogdad on January 19, 2018, 10:36:15 AM: always wondered if you were hunting an area that is steel shot only for all other game (ie birds) and its wetland (like potholes) what the thoughts are on requiring steel for this hunting too?
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Special T on January 19, 2018, 10:42:30 AM: Only required for specific WDFW lands. You not hunting duck or pheasant so... fire away

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Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Special T on January 22, 2018, 07:22:08 AM: Just got a notification Midway dropped it to $65 for 250 rounds! That's 30c a round including shipping! Almost skeet load prices!

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Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: grade-creek-rd on January 22, 2018, 08:21:22 AM: http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/01/13/hunt-coyotes-now.aspx

grade
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on January 22, 2018, 07:00:23 PM: Winchester US army 00 buck with a turkey choke - Start walkin' them skid roads! :tup:
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: jdb on January 22, 2018, 07:37:39 PM: Quote from: grade-creek-rd on January 22, 2018, 08:21:22 AM
http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/01/13/hunt-coyotes-now.aspx

grade
who is this jason brooks guy?
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on January 22, 2018, 07:48:56 PM: Quote from: jdb on January 22, 2018, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: grade-creek-rd on January 22, 2018, 08:21:22 AM
http://www.theoutdoorline.com/blog/post/2018/01/13/hunt-coyotes-now.aspx

grade
who is this jason brooks guy?
No clue...Guess he likes a 12g 3" magnum load with BB shot? Whatevs :dunno:
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: grade-creek-rd on January 23, 2018, 08:24:17 AM: I'm betting he is on this forum...somewhere... ;)

Grade
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: AWS on January 23, 2018, 09:49:06 AM: While I don't use a shotgun specificly I do use combo guns both O/U and a Drilling to hunt coyotes in the thicker stuff. I have great success with 1 oz of NP BB's in the 16ga Drilling and 1 1/4 oz of the same shot in the 12ga combos. I don't try and stretch the distance though as I have the rifle barrel to reach out past 35 yards.

Here is a definitive discussion on shotgunning predators.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=777351#Post777351

I do have a Rem 870 Express Turkey gun(for 30 yrs without a hiccup) with a custom predator choke in it if I have to hunt firearms restricted areas and rely on 3" HD BB's and Dead Coyote(I was in a rural store in WI and they had a bunch on the shelf for $20./bx and I stocked up). There is some discussion going on that now that Federal is to bring out some TSS Turkey loads maybe they will make some TSS predator loads also.
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Special T on January 23, 2018, 10:06:29 AM: That's a great link AWS. It shows that most loads inside of duck hunting range will work.

What current production combos or Drillings are out there that you like? I'm guess from your past posts they are eastern European on mfg?

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Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: AWS on January 23, 2018, 10:25:14 AM: Off the top of my head, Blaser, Merkel, Tikka/Valmet and CZ/BRNO(for the European market), I think Biakal is still building them but no US distributer. With some of the firearms restrictions in Europe there are a number of older combos coming into the country, the more affordable($600-$1000) ones seem to be in 22 Savage Highpower(5.6x52R) and 222 Rem. Going above that just about any chambering you want from 22 Hornet to 9.3x74. Most are 12 and 16 gauge but there are a few 20's, I put a bid in on a German Trade drilling 20x20x25-35 Win. this past summer but my pockets weren't near deep enough.

Links

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/drilling-combination-guns.cfm?cat_id=290

https://www.simpsonltd.com/collections/drillings-and-combo
Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: Special T on January 23, 2018, 10:43:42 AM: I had been trying to figure out why so many European drilling and combo guns used the 222 rem.. didn't dawn on me that several Euro countries have bans on weapons that use military calibers!

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Title: Re: Coyote with shotgun
Post by: AWS on January 23, 2018, 11:44:57 AM: The cartridge was/is very popular for Roe deer, capercaille/auerhahn(a large turkey sized forest grouse), and foxes