Post by: MacAttack on January 20, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
My duck hunting trip was cut short as Friday after I filled up with gas at Costco in Wenatchee, my truck started acting funny on Hwy 2. It first sounded like the tranny or u joints were going out because it was clunking but then it stalled. I got it to the shoulder and called AAA for a tow, I was almost at my buddy's house in Leavenworth. On the side of the road, I tried to turn it over and it wouldn't at first, then it was able to, but it quickly shut off. So today I called AAA for another tow back to Renton. Huge thanks to the two tow truck drivers from Jaegers.
Plan on starting with the fuel filter tomorrow and see how that goes...any other ideas?
Post by: 762Armo on January 20, 2018, 06:15:29 PM
What vehicle, mileage?
Post by: MacAttack on January 20, 2018, 06:28:53 PM
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Post by: j_h_nimrod on January 20, 2018, 08:03:52 PM
Timing chain or belt is a possibility, though hopefully not.
Post by: MacAttack on January 20, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
You should be able to hear the fuel pump if you are down by the tank and have someone switch the key to accessory. It should have a high pressure rail, I would not recommend taking off the fuel line to test fuel flow! Probably a pump, 200k mil s is well in the range for a failure. The failure to turn over has me a little worried, that is not fuel related. Lack of fuel should have let it turn over as normal, just not start.
Timing chain or belt is a possibility, though hopefully not.
Correct,I meant to write it does not start, it will turn over but will not start, or it does and dies almost immediately.
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on January 22, 2018, 07:05:38 PM
You should be able to hear the fuel pump if you are down by the tank and have someone switch the key to accessory. It should have a high pressure rail, I would not recommend taking off the fuel line to test fuel flow! Probably a pump, 200k mil s is well in the range for a failure. The failure to turn over has me a little worried, that is not fuel related. Lack of fuel should have let it turn over as normal, just not start.
Timing chain or belt is a possibility, though hopefully not.
:yeah: Clunk clunk - Sounds a bit more serious than fuel delivery :yike: Good Luck!
Post by: jackelope on January 22, 2018, 07:35:44 PM
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Post by: Sandberm on January 23, 2018, 08:55:27 AM
Happened on my 03 s-10, my neighbors Suburban, my brothers Astrovan, my dads mid nineties Chevy 1500...
Its a chevy thing :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2018, 09:00:04 AM
I have heard you can give it the hillbilly test. Tap on the bottom of the gas tank some and see if it will pick up some fuel and run for a short time.
Sometimes you can beat on the fuel tank. Jarring the pump motor might make it work....same idea as hitting a starter with a hammer.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 23, 2018, 09:12:04 AM
I have heard you can give it the hillbilly test. Tap on the bottom of the gas tank some and see if it will pick up some fuel and run for a short time.
Sometimes you can beat on the fuel tank. Jarring the pump motor might make it work....same idea as hitting a starter with a hammer.
As an added bonus, it just feels good to hit it with a hammer when it doesn't work!!
Fuel pump on my Tahoe went at 165,000, so probably the most likely suspect as it does seem to be a Chevy thing...
Post by: bearpaw on January 23, 2018, 09:19:35 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2018, 09:37:40 AM
I have heard you can give it the hillbilly test. Tap on the bottom of the gas tank some and see if it will pick up some fuel and run for a short time.
Sometimes you can beat on the fuel tank. Jarring the pump motor might make it work....same idea as hitting a starter with a hammer.
As an added bonus, it just feels good to hit it with a hammer when it doesn't work!!
Fuel pump on my Tahoe went at 165,000, so probably the most likely suspect as it does seem to be a Chevy thing...
I put 2 in my '02 Silverado in 235k miles. Used to work at a GM Dealer. It's a Chevy/GMC thing.
Post by: bearpaw on January 23, 2018, 09:40:34 AM
I have heard you can give it the hillbilly test. Tap on the bottom of the gas tank some and see if it will pick up some fuel and run for a short time.
Sometimes you can beat on the fuel tank. Jarring the pump motor might make it work....same idea as hitting a starter with a hammer.
As an added bonus, it just feels good to hit it with a hammer when it doesn't work!!
Fuel pump on my Tahoe went at 165,000, so probably the most likely suspect as it does seem to be a Chevy thing...
I put 2 in my '02 Silverado in 235k miles. Used to work at a GM Dealer. It's a Chevy/GMC thing.
I had a 2000 silverado 3500, same story, two fuel pumps in 240,000 miles, you can tell when they start whining louder they are getting ready to self destruct
Post by: huntnfmly on January 23, 2018, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
I have heard you can give it the hillbilly test. Tap on the bottom of the gas tank some and see if it will pick up some fuel and run for a short time.
Sometimes you can beat on the fuel tank. Jarring the pump motor might make it work....same idea as hitting a starter with a hammer.
As an added bonus, it just feels good to hit it with a hammer when it doesn't work!!
Fuel pump on my Tahoe went at 165,000, so probably the most likely suspect as it does seem to be a Chevy thing...
I put 2 in my '02 Silverado in 235k miles. Used to work at a GM Dealer. It's a Chevy/GMC thing.
I had a 2000 silverado 3500, same story, two fuel pumps in 240,000 miles, you can tell when they start whining louder they are getting ready to self destruct
Bingo...
Post by: Special T on January 23, 2018, 10:16:23 AM
A little trick we have learned for dealing with in-tank fuel pumps in suburbans and tahoes, look under the truck and locate where the fuel pump is at on the tank, lift the carpet in the vehicle and cut a hole in the floor right above the pump, makes changing a fuel pump very easy. To plug the hole that you cut out, just cut a square piece of tin to cover the hole, screw it in place, lay the carpet back down. You could probably do the same thing with a pickup to save a lot of hassle if you don't mind a patch in your truck bed. :dunno:Older Subaru wagons had this hatch built in from the factory.
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 23, 2018, 10:22:38 AM
A little trick we have learned for dealing with in-tank fuel pumps in suburbans and tahoes, look under the truck and locate where the fuel pump is at on the tank, lift the carpet in the vehicle and cut a hole in the floor right above the pump, makes changing a fuel pump very easy. To plug the hole that you cut out, just cut a square piece of tin to cover the hole, screw it in place, lay the carpet back down. You could probably do the same thing with a pickup to save a lot of hassle if you don't mind a patch in your truck bed. :dunno:Older Subaru wagons had this hatch built in from the factory.
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Yep, been there done that on a Subaru.
Post by: Special T on January 23, 2018, 10:41:10 AM
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Post by: jackelope on January 23, 2018, 11:13:13 AM
A little trick we have learned for dealing with in-tank fuel pumps in suburbans and tahoes, look under the truck and locate where the fuel pump is at on the tank, lift the carpet in the vehicle and cut a hole in the floor right above the pump, makes changing a fuel pump very easy. To plug the hole that you cut out, just cut a square piece of tin to cover the hole, screw it in place, lay the carpet back down. You could probably do the same thing with a pickup to save a lot of hassle if you don't mind a patch in your truck bed. :dunno:Older Subaru wagons had this hatch built in from the factory.
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Yep, been there done that on a Subaru.
There's a bunch of vehicles that have them. We're doing fuel pump recalls on Escapes right now that have access under the back seat. Can't remember what Chrysler cars have access in the trunk if I remember correctly. There's a few. Some techs will lift the bed rather than drop the tank on pickups. 6 one way, a half dozen the other probably.
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Post by: goldenhtr on January 23, 2018, 05:57:56 PM
A little trick we have learned for dealing with in-tank fuel pumps in suburbans and tahoes, look under the truck and locate where the fuel pump is at on the tank, lift the carpet in the vehicle and cut a hole in the floor right above the pump, makes changing a fuel pump very easy. To plug the hole that you cut out, just cut a square piece of tin to cover the hole, screw it in place, lay the carpet back down. You could probably do the same thing with a pickup to save a lot of hassle if you don't mind a patch in your truck bed. :dunno:
Did this in my 94 chevy pickup. I have a bed liner so I never see it anyways. Youtube is your friend. Easy-peasy
Post by: birddogdad on January 25, 2018, 06:00:02 AM
You should be able to hear the fuel pump if you are down by the tank and have someone switch the key to accessory. It should have a high pressure rail, I would not recommend taking off the fuel line to test fuel flow! Probably a pump, 200k mil s is well in the range for a failure. The failure to turn over has me a little worried, that is not fuel related. Lack of fuel should have let it turn over as normal, just not start.
Timing chain or belt is a possibility, though hopefully not.
electric pump in gas tank not engine compartment, key to run and listen... there may be a tip switch but not sure on that model.. either way, my money is on the tank pump for starting point
Post by: dyhardhuntr on January 25, 2018, 08:01:57 AM
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