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Title: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 10:48:27 AM
We all know Wa is making it harder and harder to successfully hunt elk. I have only hunted Wa for the last almost 10 years. This will most likely be the first year I will head out of state to chase elk. From the number of  topics being posted on out of state hunting I thought it would be interesting to see where everyone is going and if it's new or something you have been doing for a while.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: SkookumHntr on February 27, 2018, 11:12:40 AM
I just bought my deer elk bear cougar yesterday, price sure seemed went up!!  >:(
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Crunchy on February 27, 2018, 11:38:08 AM
Oregon for me.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: JKEEN33 on February 27, 2018, 11:40:02 AM
I have always argued that fishing more than paid for my hunting, but it’s no longer worth it to me in WA. First year I won’t be elk hunting in WA. You left off several other state options to choose from.

Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Stalker on February 27, 2018, 11:52:42 AM
Stopped throwing $$$ at WA program several years ago. Way more fulfilling to hunt out of state.  I hunt CO and ID.  At some point I am going to need to spend my 14 elk points though.  This will be the 1st year I don't buy a fishing license as well. Just to easy to make the run to Canadian waters and retain some fish.  Good luck with you decision.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: JeffRaines on February 27, 2018, 11:58:23 AM
I'm still going to buy WA licenses this year, but nothing crazy. No special permit apps either. Archery Deer so I can take a freezer filler, bear, small game(turkey) and thats it. The rest of my money is going to Idaho and Montana as far as fishing and hunting goes.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: ghosthunter on February 27, 2018, 12:04:51 PM
O :bash:n the fence
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 12:09:50 PM
I have always argued that fishing more than paid for my hunting, but it’s no longer worth it to me in WA. First year I won’t be elk hunting in WA. You left off several other state options to choose from.
Yeah it only gave me 5 options
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 27, 2018, 12:16:11 PM
I’ll hunt elk in wa for a weekend unless I draw a tag then I’ll take time. Other states I won’t be hunting elk otc but will be applying for elk in a handful of states.
It’s too cheap an application to not apply in wa.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Bob33 on February 27, 2018, 12:20:19 PM
General season harvest rates haven't changed significantly in the last 12 years.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Matth on February 27, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
All of the above, Oregon, Washington Idaho
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
General season harvest rates haven't changed significantly in the last 12 years.
Interesting stats 2012 must have been a good year
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Slenk on February 27, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
I started hunting in Washington in 1954. Last year I hunted some in Washington and some in Idaho. This year I will Hunt 100% in Idaho. 
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: jstone on February 27, 2018, 01:05:40 PM
12 Quality Elk Archery
12 Quality Deer Archery
Ned to use these up before I think about it. Maybe Antelope again though.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: vandeman17 on February 27, 2018, 01:27:01 PM
12 Quality Elk Archery
12 Quality Deer Archery
Ned to use these up before I think about it. Maybe Antelope again though.

That is where they have you by the nuts. Get hooked on the "prize" and feel like you can't leave until you cash out. I am in a similar boat with 13 quality deer but luckily I burned my quality elk last year and won't be applying again.  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 27, 2018, 05:29:33 PM
To me the app fee and license as a resident is well worth the chance to draw.  :twocents: I pay more in other states knowing I won’t draw for years and years
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Skillet on February 27, 2018, 05:44:26 PM
Odds of drawing a quality elk tag are small and getting smaller.  There's lots of guys with 20+ points in those draws now. Highly suggest those of you who are waiting to cash in your WA points before you go out of state don't wait any longer.  Think of how old you'll be when you finally get that Peaches rut tag, and how many years of hunting quality OTC or draw tags in other states you've missed out on.   Do it while you're young enough to do it the way you want to.
You can still put in for the moon shot in WA if you want, but it's a sucker's bet.
 :twocents:
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Mudman on February 27, 2018, 05:58:46 PM
Tired of paying $$ to this state.  Inslee can steal from someone else (CArbon Tax).  Im out.  WEYCO can shuvvvvit.  Disc pass can SHUVVVIT!
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: buglebuster on February 27, 2018, 06:18:06 PM
I must be the odd one out here. I enjoy hunting elk in washington and can gurantee i will have multiple interactions with bulls each year. I cant imagine not hunting your own state every year, its sooo cheap not to! With that said i will be hunting elk, deer, and spring bear in idaho as well, all my washington stuff, and deer in montana.  Hopefully draw a montana antelope tag also.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 27, 2018, 06:20:25 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.   
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: buddy01 on February 27, 2018, 06:21:58 PM
Oregon, The best state  :twocents:
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: dvolmer on February 27, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
General season harvest rates haven't changed significantly in the last 12 years.

That def proves it has sucked for a long time!
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.
How is BC as far as cost and ease of getting a tag ?
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Mfowl on February 27, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.
How is BC as far as cost and ease of getting a tag ?

Canada requires a guide for NR big game hunts. Drives up the cost. Not a DIY hunt.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 06:52:13 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.
How is BC as far as cost and ease of getting a tag ?

Canada requires a guide for NR big game hunts. Drives up the cost. Not a DIY hunt.
A guide or resident?
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Mfowl on February 27, 2018, 06:55:04 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.
How is BC as far as cost and ease of getting a tag ?

Canada requires a guide for NR big game hunts. Drives up the cost. Not a DIY hunt.
A guide or resident?

Guide is what I've read. If you know a resident who is also a guide then game on!
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Bob33 on February 27, 2018, 07:00:16 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.
How is BC as far as cost and ease of getting a tag ?

Canada requires a guide for NR big game hunts. Drives up the cost. Not a DIY hunt.
A guide or resident?

Guide is what I've read. If you know a resident who is also a guide then game on!
Non-residents may be accompanied by a qualified "accompany to hunt" individual, who does not need to be a guide.

https://portal.nrs.gov.bc.ca/web/client/-/accompany-to-hunt
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: bobcat on February 27, 2018, 07:11:35 PM
Right now I'm not planning any out of state elk hunts, and I'm also not sure if I'll be hunting elk in Washington, unless I draw a special permit. If I hunt the general season it might be for only one day, and even that depends on whether I draw other hunts that might interfere. My priority in Washington will be more focused on helping my 12 year old daughter get her first deer, and deer hunting for myself, for mule deer in eastern Washington, which I haven't done for quite some time. No blacktails for me this year. My out of state hunt will be antelope in Wyoming.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Stein on February 27, 2018, 07:14:06 PM
Back to MT for elk & deer, maybe WY for antelope (30% chance) and a few shoot for the moon tags.  Maybe bear and late elk in WA.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 07:17:41 PM
I'm sure I will still get out and hunt in this state or help some friends out just not holding my breath for much here anymore. I too have a bunch of points to burn at some point when and if I get lucky enough.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: kselkhunter on February 27, 2018, 07:48:46 PM
Both WA and OR again for me as usual.   
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Fullabull on February 27, 2018, 08:04:27 PM
I hunted last year in Idaho and loved it. Way more action than I have had here in WA. I have hunted twice in Idaho now, no harvest but a tun of fun. I have taken a couple of elk here in WA archery but it's seems to be getting worse every year here. I will be hunting Idaho again this year because my son can't take enough days off to use our points her this year.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: NorseNW on February 27, 2018, 08:18:06 PM
I started hunting in Washington in 1954. Last year I hunted some in Washington and some in Idaho. This year I will Hunt 100% in Idaho.

That many years of experience speaks volumes to me.  Only hunted WA for 4 years now and starting to stretch the legs to other states beginning this year.  Working on choosing between ID or OR tags to start the new adventures.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: High Climber on February 27, 2018, 08:28:30 PM
WA will be pretty good again if everyone goes to idaho  :chuckle:
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Limhangerslayer on February 27, 2018, 08:40:54 PM
Idaho deer/elk Washington also.  When I shot my spike last year here in Washington last year we never saw another person all day.
And maybe go to Idaho again for late deer
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: bowhunterforever on February 27, 2018, 08:45:17 PM
WA will be pretty good again if everyone goes to idaho  :chuckle:
:yeah: :o :chuckle:
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: JWEBB on February 27, 2018, 10:00:12 PM
I have hardly hunted elk in WA since my last quality draw in 2013. I focus my efforts on the elusive 200 inch mule deer I've been chasing my whole life. Back to elk hunting when I draw again in 5, 10, or 15 years maybe. Hopefully sooner than later
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on February 27, 2018, 11:00:08 PM
 :yeah: - Good Luck!
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 27, 2018, 11:07:57 PM
Ok I added Oregon .
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Slenk on February 28, 2018, 07:46:42 AM
Hunting will never be really good again in Washington with the powers to be that are in control. You young guy and gals will never see hunting in this state that some of us ol graybeards have seen.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: theleo on February 28, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
WA will be pretty good again if everyone goes to idaho  :chuckle:
It's not just about the amount of people it also has to do with the people in charge of the F&G departments. Considering WA policy is to hire guys that were incompetent at there jobs in ID and giving them higher positions, I think it'd take a few decades of changes for WA to catch up with ID.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Stickerbush on February 28, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
If I had limited time I would just hunt Idaho, but I will hunt Idaho and wa
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Tbob on February 28, 2018, 11:16:04 AM
I’ll likely hunt WA again this year for archery elk and deer, but a few of us decided to try our ID hand for archery elk for the first time. I’m also putting in with a buddy for a long shot at NM rifle Elk and I’m going to put in for MT mule deer for my first time. If drawn for that one though I’ll be going at it solo.. Good luck to everyone this year wherever you’ll be hunting.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: 7mmfan on February 28, 2018, 01:33:08 PM
I'm at the point now where I plan on hunting out of state every year, but applying in state for special permits. If I draw in state, I'll work my out of state hunts around it. I'm done hunting spikes on the East side, and I don't think I'll ever hunt elk on the west side. I'll hunt blacktail though, it's so close t home that I can do it evenings after work and weekends.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: lord grizzly on February 28, 2018, 01:44:52 PM
WA will be pretty good again if everyone goes to idaho  :chuckle:

you guys have ruined your state. please leave mine alone
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Shawn Ryan on February 28, 2018, 04:50:58 PM
I will apply for E. WA permits. Will archery hunt WA, if I can find a decent place to take my 81 year old Dad.  The elimination of OTC archery cows in E. WA makes the hunt harder for him.  Might have to take him to W. WA and just not hunt myself.

Oregon for backpack hunting.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: SteelheadTed on February 28, 2018, 05:38:15 PM
You forgot a few states.  I hope to be in Utah, Arizona or New Mexico this year but if I don't draw I will take Idaho as a consolation prize (and a very nice prize it is).  I have a teen in the drawing for youth hunts in Utah and New Mexico so our chance for a tag between the two of us are decent.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Crunchy on February 28, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
I'm gona have to try Idaho one of these years, its just so hard for me not to hunt Oregon every year.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: jjhunter on February 28, 2018, 06:35:51 PM
I’ll have a Colorado deer tag and a Montana deer tag.  Pretty decent chance of using my Utah deer points this year.  Pts again in Wyoming.  In for Outfitter draw in Nevada.  I’ll apply for deer and elk in Idaho...then the WA draws.

Washington is always a filler state for me.  I’ll hunt my multi-season deer tag around my out of state hunts. 
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: bearpaw on February 28, 2018, 06:48:41 PM
Hunted outa state on and off for last 30 years, hunted WA every year up til about 3 years ago now only hunt WA if I draw something.  General WA season with hoofrot just doesn't excite me when I can goto Idaho, Montana, Colorado or BC.
How is BC as far as cost and ease of getting a tag ?

Canada requires a guide for NR big game hunts. Drives up the cost. Not a DIY hunt.
A guide or resident?

Guide is what I've read. If you know a resident who is also a guide then game on!
Non-residents may be accompanied by a qualified "accompany to hunt" individual, who does not need to be a guide.

https://portal.nrs.gov.bc.ca/web/client/-/accompany-to-hunt

You have to be related if you are not a resident of canada:

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A non-resident alien (a person who is neither a resident nor a nonresident) whose relationship to the applicant falls within the following categories: father, mother, spouse, brother, sister, fatherin-law, son, daughter, mother-in-law, uncle, aunt, son-in-law, nephew, niece, daughter-in-law, grandson, granddaughter, brotherin-law, sister-in-law, grandfather, grandmother. Note: Cousin is not an accepted relationship.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: scottcrb on February 28, 2018, 10:11:23 PM
I'm surprised how few are going to Wyoming.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Miles on March 01, 2018, 03:00:18 AM
I'm surprised how few are going to Wyoming.

I live 2 hours south and tried for elk, but no such luck.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Stein on March 01, 2018, 05:37:50 AM
I'm surprised how few are going to Wyoming.

Wyoming is horrible, stick with Idaho for sure. :chuckle:
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: bobcat on March 01, 2018, 05:41:50 AM
I'm surprised how few are going to Wyoming.

Probably because they don’t have OTC tags.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: bearpaw on March 01, 2018, 06:33:20 AM
I think Unsworthy was a plant by Idaho to encourage more hunters into Idaho!  :P
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 01, 2018, 07:34:21 AM
All of the above but not for elk. WA is it for elk.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: buglebrush on March 01, 2018, 07:41:54 AM
Applied but did not draw Wyoming.  Applying in Colorado, New Mexico, and Idaho.  Will hunt Idaho OTC if I don't draw anything, and will buy a WA archery or Muzzy tag depending
on when I harvest elsewhere.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 01, 2018, 07:51:50 AM
I'll hunt WY every year I can pull a general tag.   Not getting any easier with wolves bouncing them around.  I'll continue to hunt WA until I draw out on OIL's or die.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: Brushbuster on March 01, 2018, 09:24:23 AM
Hope to draw CO for elk this year. Good chance to draw MT deer. ID is a backup if all else fails. Maybe some multi season deer in WA.
Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: dreamingbig on March 01, 2018, 10:35:08 AM
Archery elk out of state!  Bags are packed.


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Title: Re: wa or out of state this year
Post by: dreamingbig on March 01, 2018, 10:36:47 AM
I'm surprised how few are going to Wyoming.
You have to drive past two great elk states to get to Wyoming but Wyoming is a great option!


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