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Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: WapitiTalk1 on February 27, 2018, 01:48:51 PM
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Hey folks, I've created a backpack weight calculator (MS Excel) over the years that will calculate the weight, in pounds, that you'll be lugging into the backcountry. All you do is plug in your items, their weight, and the tool will spit out the total weight for both your total pack in, and, your daypack configuration once you set up camp and head into the hills. If you're interested in this tool, let me know and I'll send it your way. I don't know, you may either thank me for this or cuss me when you see how much weight you're gonna be lugging in :chuckle:. RJ rory@wapititalk.com
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Wow. That is way better than how I do it......
I just put mine on a scale. Who knew there was an easier way? :dunno:
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Wow. That is way better than how I do it......
I just put mine on a scale. Who knew there was an easier way? :dunno:
Ha, you're smarter than I am. It's also my overall checklist so I don't leave this or that behind (which I'm prone to do). Edit: And at my age, my eyeballs are bigger than my appetite sometimes so it helps me to list my items/weights so I don't charge in thar with 60lbs on my back :chuckle:
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:chuckle:
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It's a good way to do it because it allows you to see where all the weight is coming from on a piece by piece basis so you can adjust a piece of gear or replace it or whatever.
If you know your sleeping bag weighs 5 pounds, you know where you can shave some weight.
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I was just being a smart ass Jackelope :tup:
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I was just being a smart ass Jackelope :tup:
Oh yeah I get that.
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Been doing the back pack thing for a long time. I used to weigh my gear, eventually you get to a point where you don't need to. you need what you need back there and as long as your not taking things you don't it doesn't matter what it weighs. I couldn't tell you what my pack weighs, id be willing to bet its lighter than most . I also go with a lot less than most guys too though.
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What is a good weight for a back country pack
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What is a good weight for a back country pack
Prepare for 5 different answers from 5 different people.
Your weight will vary some based on season, how many days, where you're going, etc. Personally with my gear that ranges in quality from mediocre to good and my packing and organization skills ranging from mediocre to mediocre, if I can stay around 40 pounds not counting my rifle I'm pretty excited. I was really heavy on my mountain goat trips last fall because of the weather. Was up around 50. Some guys have the really lightweight gear and the OCD working for them and will be a lot lighter than that. I tend to bring stuff that maybe I don't "need" but want. I'm also far from an expert and don't have a lot of knowledge on this.
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What is a good weight for a back country pack
Whatever weight is necessary for you to feel comfortable being in the backcountry for the amount of time you plan on being out plus a day or so in case of weather/injury.
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I was thinking 40 pounds would be comfy.
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I usually just pack everything that I think I'll need. Once I pick it up, it's always "too heavy". Then I proceed to take out items that I thought I needed. This continues until I pick the pack up and say "that's not too bad". Then I'm ready to go.
Every once in a while I'll toss a couple snacks or sodas in dad's pack. It helps keep my pack light. I still remember the time I asked him to pass me the pepsi out of his pack at about 6 miles in with 2000' elevation gain. LOL Warning: we joke a lot, so this may not work for everyone... There have been more then a few "mustard only" sandwiches discovered on mountain top day trips. :chuckle:
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I must be getting old. I still use a scale to see what my pack weighs.
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Do you guys use tents or just a tarp or something else to cover you. To save weight
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I use a tent
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I still use a tent. I shaved over 10 lbs in the last year by replacing my pack and my gun. Yup. 10lbs. Ounce savings are everywhere.
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I have a similar excel file. Every hunting and camping item I own is logged with a category and a weight in a table. I then have pivot tables that update based on what I select to pack. It gives me a weight that is within a couple ounces. Really helps me think about what is nice to have vs need to have and the impact on my pack weight. Added benefit is that I have a packing list and I never forget stuff. I am fully aware how anal retentive this is, but I love tinkering with excel so it feeds a dual purpose.
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Used to geek out on this pretty good but anymore it's just automatic. Like lord griz said, you figure out what you need and what you dont. Food is my killer. I'm close to 2lb a day. If you're hauling in water it's even worse.
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I pull bristles out of my toothbrush (after cutting the handle of course). I pop all the plastic ballistic tips off my three rounds. I cut all backpack straps off 1/8” past where they are adjusted to. I remove every other button on my shirt. I cut all pockets and pouches out of everything (packs and clothes). I shorten the rubber tube on my water filter to 1.25 inches.
Ounces add up.
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What is a good weight for a back country pack
10 lbs not counting toilet paper.
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Used to geek out on this pretty good but anymore it's just automatic. Like lord griz said, you figure out what you need and what you dont. Food is my killer. I'm close to 2lb a day. If you're hauling in water it's even worse.
Foods the killer. My rule is I don’t carry any food that’s less then 100 calories an once. My foods around 24 oz a day. Ive gone a long time on the philosophy that I’m not back there to be comfortable and everything else in the world hunts hungry, so will I
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:chuckle:
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What is a good weight for a back country pack
38# plus rifle max. “Good weight” would be less but tradeoff for comfort at camp vs comfort on packin. Drop that extra 10# around the belly and then its only 28# 8)
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What is a good weight for a back country pack
10 lbs not counting toilet paper.
So including toilet paper, you're what, 25-30#?
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I cant afford ultralight gear, and I like to eat decent and have a whisky night cap. My pack by most peoples standards would probably be considered heavy. When I get old and have money ill probably make a light pack more of a priority.
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I cant afford ultralight gear, and I like to eat decent and have a whisky night cap. My pack by most peoples standards would probably be considered heavy. When I get old and have money ill probably make a light pack more of a priority.
I've seen the deer you kill. My vote is that you're doing just fine. :tup:
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I cant afford ultralight gear, and I like to eat decent and have a whisky night cap. My pack by most peoples standards would probably be considered heavy. When I get old and have money ill probably make a light pack more of a priority.
I've seen the deer you kill. My vote is that you're doing just fine. :tup:
Thanks but I gotta admit all my good critters have pretty much been killed on day hunts. I have a pretty lousy back country record...probably because I have too much good food and whisky to leave camp!
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So many variable its hard to pin down a good weight. Figure out what works for you and don't fret about it to much. Cut ounces whenever budget or opportunity allows. Leaving items you don't use or need will shave much more weight than buying lighter and more expensive versions of them. I think most guys could cut significant weight by focusing on not over packing on clothes and food, and getting the lightest boot/shoes for the terrain and season.
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Before I start cutting off the handle of my toothbrush an other ounce saving measures. I'm gonna focus on my own weight. I could lighten my load by 20 lbs without touching my pack.
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I just don't bring a toothbrush. :dunno:
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Before I start cutting off the handle of my toothbrush an other ounce saving measures. I'm gonna focus on my own weight. I could lighten my load by 20 lbs without touching my pack.
:chuckle:
When we are dividing up meat for the pack out my buddy always puts more on my pack. He says "you are 20 pounds lighter then me, if I put 20 more on your back then we are truly going out even." Man I wish he would lose that 20.
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Before I start cutting off the handle of my toothbrush an other ounce saving measures. I'm gonna focus on my own weight. I could lighten my load by 20 lbs without touching my pack.
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When we are dividing up meat for the pack out my buddy always puts more on my pack. He says "you are 20 pounds lighter then me, if I put 20 more on your back then we are truly going out even." Man I wish he would lose that 20.
I suffer from the same problem, although most of the time i welcome the challenge.
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Sleeping bag/pad, food/water system, shelter, extra clothes. Those are (in order IMO) the easier and cheaper ways to cut weight. Cutting weight on the weapon is expensive, cutting weight on optics is generally ill advised.
Don't underestimate the discipline factor - too easy to throw in something "just in case".
Like most things, this can be solved with experience. Just get out there and if you're 10# heavy, you'll still have a good time.
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Sleeping bag/pad, food/water system, shelter, extra clothes. Those are (in order IMO) the easier and cheaper ways to cut weight. Cutting weight on the weapon is expensive, cutting weight on optics is generally ill advised.
Don't underestimate the discipline factor - too easy to throw in something "just in case".
Like most things, this can be solved with experience. Just get out there and if you're 10# heavy, you'll still have a good time.
No one cares about common sense ways to cut weight Jon. They want to be hardcore and drill holes in stuff and only bring 2 squares of toilet paper per day (one for a just in case square). Where do you stand on tooth brushes?
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Sleeping bag/pad, food/water system, shelter, extra clothes. Those are (in order IMO) the easier and cheaper ways to cut weight. Cutting weight on the weapon is expensive, cutting weight on optics is generally ill advised.
Don't underestimate the discipline factor - too easy to throw in something "just in case".
Like most things, this can be solved with experience. Just get out there and if you're 10# heavy, you'll still have a good time.
No one cares about common sense ways to cut weight Jon. They want to be hardcore and drill holes in stuff and only bring 2 squares of toilet paper per day (one for a just in case square). Where do you stand on tooth brushes?
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:chuckle: toothbrush is the first thing to go! If I'm wearing the same underwear for four days, I'm not exactly worried about my teeth looking a little less yellow :chuckle:
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:chuckle: toothbrush is the first thing to go! If I'm wearing the same underwear for four days, I'm not exactly worried about my teeth looking a little less yellow :chuckle:
I'm hoping the aforementioned toxic snugs get thrown into the trash (or incinerated) upon return from the hunt :chuckle: Wearing the same snugs for four days while humping the elk woods will surely result in baboon butt.....
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:chuckle: toothbrush is the first thing to go! If I'm wearing the same underwear for four days, I'm not exactly worried about my teeth looking a little less yellow :chuckle:
I'm hoping the aforementioned toxic snugs get thrown into the trash (or incinerated) upon return from the hunt :chuckle: Wearing the same snugs for four days while humping the elk woods will surely result in baboon butt.....
:chuckle: You just have to rotate them.
Day 1: Normal wear.
Day 2: Backwards.
Day 3: Inside out and forward.
Day 4: Inside out and backwards.
If you're wearing wool, this can be doubled.
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Last year I think it was at about a 90 pound pack with enough food for 2 guys to last about 7 days, including plenty of TP for the Wednesday after taco Tuesday.
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:chuckle: toothbrush is the first thing to go! If I'm wearing the same underwear for four days, I'm not exactly worried about my teeth looking a little less yellow :chuckle:
only 4!?!?! I'll go 9 and not even bat an eye :chuckle:
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What's the is underwear you people are talking about?
I save the 9 ounces.
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:chuckle: toothbrush is the first thing to go! If I'm wearing the same underwear for four days, I'm not exactly worried about my teeth looking a little less yellow :chuckle:
I'm hoping the aforementioned toxic snugs get thrown into the trash (or incinerated) upon return from the hunt :chuckle: Wearing the same snugs for four days while humping the elk woods will surely result in baboon butt.....
:chuckle: You just have to rotate them.
Day 1: Normal wear.
Day 2: Backwards.
Day 3: Inside out and forward.
Day 4: Inside out and backwards.
If you're wearing wool, this can be doubled.
Good tech tip :tup:
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When I’m in the backcountry and I smell what I think is a Sasquatch.!! I will know I’m close to where Karl’s is hunting.!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
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The frequent use of a manpon extends undie life 10 times.
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Brush your teeth ,i only do that before a dentist appointment,let alone out in the woods.
Underwear unless there brown or yellow still good,i wear camo underwear so you never know what's going on in there.
Just pack one of these for a daily change and never stop glassing.
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I didn't really weigh anything... the pack was pretty light after we put the tent, food stove sleeping bag and change of close on the pack horse!
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I didn't really weigh anything... the pack was pretty light after we put the tent, food stove sleeping bag and change of close on the pack horse!
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Yea its funny, all the state of the art gear and camp still not as comfortable as ol grandpa was 70 years ago. difference = horses !
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These guys take the lightweight toothbrush to the next level, some of you guys could learn a thing or two!!!
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/59694/
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These guys take the lightweight toothbrush to the next level, some of you guys could learn a thing or two!!!
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/59694/
Mind. Blown.
I wish I had time to care that much :chuckle:
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These guys take the lightweight toothbrush to the next level, some of you guys could learn a thing or two!!!
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/59694/
Mind. Blown.
I wish I had time to care that much :chuckle:
This.
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If I cared that much I would just carry one less lapua 300 grain round...... :tung:
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If I cared that much I would just carry one less lapua 300 grain round...... :tung:
You only need one to begin with. The shockwave created by that bullet passing within 10 feet should do the job.
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If I cared that much I would just carry one less lapua 300 grain round...... :tung:
You only need one to begin with. The shockwave created by that bullet passing within 10 feet should do the job.
:yeah:
too funny
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These guys take the lightweight toothbrush to the next level, some of you guys could learn a thing or two!!!
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/59694/
Mind. Blown.
I wish I had time to care that much :chuckle:
This.
These guys are amateurs. Who weighs the light stuff only down the the 10th of an ounce. They need to be using a powder scale and weighing in grains if they are serious.