Post by: 7mmfan on March 02, 2018, 01:35:12 PM
Lite Outdoors
Titanium Goat
Seek Outside
Kifaru
Any that I'm missing?
Questions:
Are box stoves that much better than cylinder stoves?
How packable are cylinder stoves?
Are any of these companies really better than another?
Any opinions and advice is appreciated.
Rory
Post by: highside74 on March 02, 2018, 01:44:52 PM
Post by: kselkhunter on March 02, 2018, 01:47:09 PM
For me the most important item is sizing the stove properly for the size of your shelter. Too small and it won't provide enough heat, too large and you'll be stripping off clothes and opening shelter zippers to vent it.
Packing the stove is a challenge. I put mine on the outside of the pack to minimize risk of bending. It's a bit awkward, but I have an XL size stove so it's bigger than most making it more complicated.
Keep in mind titanium heats up quick, but doesn't hold heat overnight like a normal wood stove. You have to keep feeding it to keep the heat going.
Post by: X-Force on March 02, 2018, 01:58:32 PM
Kifarus cylinder is lighter, longer and burns hot. The stove burns really really well and you need to have a stack of wood to keep it fed. The length helps because it keeps you from having to break down wood into small pieces. The Tut has a couple of holes from sparks getting past the arrester and that is partially because the stove burns hot and the stove pipe weight pushes down on the cylinder moving the arrester slightly. Its not a cook on stove.
Goods
Weight, assembly, length, heat put out
Not so goods
Not as solid as some stoves
Seek is stout, shorter than the Kifaru and has more useless space. Putting round wood into a box create more voids and the door is in the middle of the box making it hard to stuff the thing full for the night. The dampers work really well and the pipe damper and spark arrester are solid. You can suffocate your fire if your not on it but it does seem to improve burn time. The box is solid enough to cook on and we do bring a frying pan, bacon, etc. I also like the stainless bands that are slid on the stove pipe.
Goods
Solid, box and pipe damper, cooking surface
Not so goods
Short, Dead Spaces
Post by: The scout on March 02, 2018, 02:30:50 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 02, 2018, 03:48:02 PM
Post by: bod on March 02, 2018, 03:55:48 PM
Post by: colersu22 on March 02, 2018, 05:12:16 PM
Post by: dscubame on March 02, 2018, 09:12:21 PM
Post by: CaNINE on March 03, 2018, 05:20:18 AM
Post by: whacker1 on March 03, 2018, 06:38:43 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 03, 2018, 08:24:58 AM
I almost went with a Wi-Fi but I have accumulated a pretty good variety of floorless shelters I was concerned about the height of the stove in my smaller shelter.
What did The Jon end up making for you? If you wanna mess with Smith hit me up.
Post by: 7mmfan on March 04, 2018, 07:31:42 PM
Karl, I took one of his 4 man pyramids off his hands. Looks to be a well made shelter, I'm excited to try it out.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 04, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
Lots of good information here to think about.you'll love it man! Solid choice
Karl, I took one of his 4 man pyramids off his hands. Looks to be a well made shelter, I'm excited to try it out.
Post by: 7mmfan on March 05, 2018, 10:45:17 AM
Post by: dscubame on March 05, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
I see on a few of the cylinder stoves, 2 ties of some form that run the length of the stove right at the top. They look like you could support a small pan to cook on. Is this actually the case? An important aspect of the stove for me is the ability to cook on it. I know that box stoves are better for that, but am curious if its doable on any of the cylinder stoves.
I would not cook on my Kifaru Smith, two cents on that one.
The titanium is so thin and malleable I don't see it as practical and I would not think the convection heat transfer would work very well based on the limited contact to the surface areas being it is a cylinder shape.
The adjustable temperature msr pocket rocket does the cooking.
Post by: 7mmfan on March 05, 2018, 03:08:02 PM
I'm beginning to lean more towards the Seek Outside Large box stove.
Post by: whacker1 on March 05, 2018, 07:53:25 PM
Post by: X-Force on March 05, 2018, 10:40:12 PM
The Smith design would definitely warp/deform with weight on it when it is hot.
Very true.
The one I have has deformed slightly from intense heat combined with the weight of the stove pipe.
Post by: banishd on March 05, 2018, 10:50:56 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on March 06, 2018, 08:38:41 AM
I burned in my new Seek outside medium stove this weekend. It should work just fine in my cimarron setup but man is it small. If I wasn't an ounce counter I would like something 4" longer to be able to use bigger pieces of wood. I was going to get the lite outdoors cylinder stove until I realized it would be more expensive compared to the tent + stove bundle price from SO.
I was looking at the Large or SXL. I agree that the medium just looks tiny. I'm sure it will heat your tent fine and dry your gear, but you'll need to feed it constantly.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 06, 2018, 08:59:30 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on March 06, 2018, 09:03:17 AM
Post by: The scout on March 06, 2018, 12:00:30 PM
I burned in my new Seek outside medium stove this weekend. It should work just fine in my cimarron setup but man is it small. If I wasn't an ounce counter I would like something 4" longer to be able to use bigger pieces of wood. I was going to get the lite outdoors cylinder stove until I realized it would be more expensive compared to the tent + stove bundle price from SO.
Huh? I thought the most expensive regular sized stove from light outdoors was like 390$ aren’t the combination hot tent setup like 800$? And that’s the stove with both baffles. Maybe you got a smokin deal on a tent stove setup
Post by: Tbob on March 07, 2018, 12:12:30 PM
I’d cook on the stove with the way it is designed. There’s two small bars that run across the top of the stove as a “frame”. It’s not really in contact with the stove if you set the bars a little closer together. I’d likely just put a small pot of water on for coffee or hot toddies maybe..
Also, Brennan at Lite Outdoors is awesome to work with and his customer service is top notch! Good luck!
Post by: Tbob on March 07, 2018, 12:14:03 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on March 07, 2018, 12:52:18 PM
Post by: gaddy on March 07, 2018, 01:02:09 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 08, 2018, 08:21:11 AM
Glowing red ? Sounds like mood lighting :chuckle:what happens on the mountain stays on the mountain :chuckle:
Post by: 7mmfan on March 08, 2018, 08:55:49 AM