Post by: Curly on March 03, 2018, 09:21:48 PM
Feral cattle terrorize hikers and devour native plants in a California national monument
I have a simple solution for the land managers. Let hunters take them. :twocents:
Post by: KFhunter on March 03, 2018, 09:24:46 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 03, 2018, 09:50:06 PM
Post by: wolfbait on March 04, 2018, 08:28:54 AM
Post by: Curly on March 04, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
Cows scare snowflake? Wonder what their reaction will be with the cuddly wolves.
In reading the comments on that article someone suggested releasing wolves to solve the problem. :o
Post by: Sandberm on March 04, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
I thought it weird that there were hoof tracks everywhere and another hiker informed me that the area had "feral" cattle roaming around though I never saw one. I never saw any pitbulls either. :yike:
I thought it odd that they didnt corral (catch)the cattle as they are worth something.
Post by: Bullkllr on March 04, 2018, 09:03:21 AM
They used to range cattle out at Ft. Lewis when I was a teenager. A few of them seemingly went feral. I had a couple close encounters in thick brush. One was a large bull/steer- looked like a Charlois with 3 foot horns- bust out of a thicket straight toward me. I was grouse hunting, but I was more likely to pee myself than use my 20 gauge single shot.
Post by: Alchase on March 04, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
Post by: Whitpirate on March 04, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
Post by: elkboy on March 04, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
I know a few folks with ranches down in California, and they frequently have to shoot feral dogs.
Post by: KFhunter on March 04, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
The really sad part of this problem is it could be solved with $200 in ammo, and a couple of hunters, but they will spend millions debating for years, and still not resolve the problem.
Why would they want to do that? These cattle are turning hearts and minds away from public grazing.
If they really wanted them out, then they's set down some salt blocks near a water source, once the cattle are accustomed to the salt put a corral around it. It's pretty simple.
I think it's harder to catch pigeons than cattle :chuckle:
Post by: Jpmiller on March 04, 2018, 11:00:06 AM
Cows scare snowflake? Wonder what their reaction will be with the cuddly wolves.
I've come across cattle in the national forest and they scare me. Not at all the tame pasture dwellers I was used to. I give them a real wide berth now they can get real aggressive.
Post by: wolfbait on March 04, 2018, 11:26:39 AM
The really sad part of this problem is it could be solved with $200 in ammo, and a couple of hunters, but they will spend millions debating for years, and still not resolve the problem.
Why would they want to do that? These cattle are turning hearts and minds away from public grazing.
If they really wanted them out, then they's set down some salt blocks near a water source, once the cattle are accustomed to the salt put a corral around it. It's pretty simple.
I think it's harder to catch pigeons than cattle :chuckle:
If the USFWS was to invent an endangered turtle amongst the cattle, I'm sure the BLM would jump at the chance to gather a herd...
Cows scare snowflake? Wonder what their reaction will be with the cuddly wolves.
I've come across cattle in the national forest and they scare me. Not at all the tame pasture dwellers I was used to. I give them a real wide berth now they can get real aggressive.
Yep, occasionally you will find a few range cattle that even though they have been worked, can have a tendency to be mean, comparing cow scares to wolf/wolves is whole a different ball game.
I guess for some, cows would be a scary situation, time for some little brass bells?
Surprise the USFWS haven't released wolves there yet, maybe it isn't ideal wolf habitat unless the cows belong to a rancher.
Post by: Alchase on March 04, 2018, 11:39:59 AM
The really sad part of this problem is it could be solved with $200 in ammo, and a couple of hunters, but they will spend millions debating for years, and still not resolve the problem.
Why would they want to do that? These cattle are turning hearts and minds away from public grazing.
If they really wanted them out, then they's set down some salt blocks near a water source, once the cattle are accustomed to the salt put a corral around it. It's pretty simple.
I think it's harder to catch pigeons than cattle :chuckle:
Good point.
That would cost substantially more than the $200 in ammo, lol
Post by: KFhunter on March 04, 2018, 11:57:52 AM
The really sad part of this problem is it could be solved with $200 in ammo, and a couple of hunters, but they will spend millions debating for years, and still not resolve the problem.
Why would they want to do that? These cattle are turning hearts and minds away from public grazing.
If they really wanted them out, then they's set down some salt blocks near a water source, once the cattle are accustomed to the salt put a corral around it. It's pretty simple.
I think it's harder to catch pigeons than cattle :chuckle:
Good point.
That would cost substantially more than the $200 in ammo, lol
how so? Haul them to the sale yard.
Post by: Simcoe hunter on March 04, 2018, 12:55:47 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on March 04, 2018, 01:43:51 PM
Weyerhauser had this problem back in the 70's over in the Kalama River area when I was a yout'.
Channeling Joe Pesci? :chuckle:
Post by: Simcoe hunter on March 04, 2018, 06:56:57 PM
Weyerhauser had this problem back in the 70's over in the Kalama River area when I was a yout'.
Channeling Joe Pesci? :chuckle:
Good job Knocker. Was curious who would catch that.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 05, 2018, 06:20:53 AM
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on March 07, 2018, 04:21:38 PM
Post by: Stein on March 07, 2018, 06:09:01 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 07, 2018, 10:46:51 PM
What prevents a guy from shooting one and loading it up? If that was Washington, wouldn't it be considered unclassified wildlife and fair game year round with any weapon and no license?No.
State livestock laws in WA only permit removal of "trespass livestock" only by the sheriff's office or the brand inspector. There's no vigilante shooting of cows in WA.
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Post by: biggfish on March 07, 2018, 10:57:23 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on March 08, 2018, 11:26:32 PM
Didn't know cows can be feral >:(
Go to Hawaii, you can get a tag and hunt them.
https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/dofaw/announcements/puuoo/
different areas have different draws, rules and I think some are native Hawaiian only.
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on March 09, 2018, 01:11:08 AM
What prevents a guy from shooting one and loading it up? If that was Washington, wouldn't it be considered unclassified wildlife and fair game year round with any weapon and no license?
:yeah: