Post by: huntandjeep on March 17, 2018, 09:48:38 AM
Post by: b23 on March 17, 2018, 12:09:15 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on March 17, 2018, 12:28:02 PM
I have a Sig MCX pistol and I've never had any problems. I don't shoot a lot at public ranges but when I have, with this particular gun, it seems everyone assumes it's an SBR. Some folks get all uptight and want to debate whether these are pistols or not and it's generally not worth discussing so I just let them think whatever they want and go about my day.That's what I'm worried about , to many people thinking they know it all , when in actuality they know nothing . Mine is mostly going to be my Jeep gun, hide behind the door gun.
Post by: Yondering on March 18, 2018, 05:50:04 PM
Post by: Mongo Hunter on March 19, 2018, 12:00:18 PM
Personally I wouldn't bother with the SBR paperwork with if you are already doing a brace. there's really no point anymore. plus remember this is a "pistol" so you can keep it loaded in a vehicle and is good in most states VS a SBR is not legal in some states and is considered a rifle. keeping a rifle loaded in a vehicle is illegal. so pistol the F out of it!
Post by: huntandjeep on March 19, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
Haven't had it out yet but I've already had people ask me if its legal and how long did my SBR paperwork take.I have been following your progress in your thread :tup:
Personally I wouldn't bother with the SBR paperwork with if you are already doing a brace. there's really no point anymore. plus remember this is a "pistol" so you can keep it loaded in a vehicle and is good in most states VS a SBR is not legal in some states and is considered a rifle. keeping a rifle loaded in a vehicle is illegal. so pistol the F out of it!
Actually the only reason I would SBR it is for a real stock. Although once I get the PDW brace my mind could change.
Post by: Mongo Hunter on March 19, 2018, 09:57:15 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 19, 2018, 10:47:25 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on March 19, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
What’s the difference between these and an actual short barreled rifle? Honest question. I’m a dummy when it comes to AR’s. If you showed me either one of those and asked what they were I would have said SBR.
Quick answer is overall length and presence or absence of a shoulder-able buttstock.
Google says:
Post by: KFhunter on March 19, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
(https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/AR-brace-turn-this-into-this-e1518909423496.jpg)
Post by: KFhunter on March 19, 2018, 11:06:49 PM
What’s the difference between these and an actual short barreled rifle? Honest question. I’m a dummy when it comes to AR’s. If you showed me either one of those and asked what they were I would have said SBR.
Quick answer is overall length and presence or absence of a shoulder-able buttstock.
Google says:
and how the lower was originally registered, you can't "reuse" a lower that was previously used as a rifle.
Post by: jackelope on March 20, 2018, 08:15:57 AM
What’s the difference between these and an actual short barreled rifle? Honest question. I’m a dummy when it comes to AR’s. If you showed me either one of those and asked what they were I would have said SBR.
Quick answer is overall length and presence or absence of a shoulder-able buttstock.
Google says:
OK, that's what I figured, but both of them in the pics looks like they have shoulder-able stocks. Threw me off.
Post by: sooperfly on March 20, 2018, 09:52:35 AM
Angled foregrips like the magpul one are ok, vertical one are not.
Post by: huntandjeep on March 20, 2018, 04:19:36 PM
Also, if you like to use a vertical foregrip those are a no-no on a pistol.If your overall length is over 26" a vertical foregrip is legal , under 26" you need angled
Angled foregrips like the magpul one are ok, vertical one are not.
Post by: yorketransport on March 20, 2018, 05:28:31 PM
What’s the difference between these and an actual short barreled rifle? Honest question. I’m a dummy when it comes to AR’s. If you showed me either one of those and asked what they were I would have said SBR.
It's a tricky loophole that required some review by the BATFE. The design of the brace and the real world application of it don't always match up, but the ATF decided to allow it.
https://www.sigsauer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/atf-letter-march-21-2017.pdf
I've know a few people who had them and they all built the pistol around the brace design with the intent of using it a certain way. Think of this, I can buy a 5# pipe wrench and use it as it was intended, or I can use that pipe wrench as a hammer. Either way it's still a pipe wrench, even if I've never used it on a pipe. In this case, it seems like the pistol braces just make a great "hammer". :twocents:
Post by: Yondering on March 20, 2018, 09:35:25 PM
As for any difference in the gun - other than the legalities of a fore grip, the only difference between an AR pistol and SBR is the presence of a stock. Functionally they are identical, all internal parts are the same, etc.