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Title: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 12:58:15 PM
Yeah... this is really belated. Sorry for my absence; this fall/winter really got away from me!  :dunno: We will see how much of this adventure I can recount this long afterwards...  :chuckle: stick with me, as I'm trying to organize photos the same time I write.
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Post by: h20hunter on March 31, 2018, 12:58:36 PM
I'm in.
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Post by: Widgeondeke on March 31, 2018, 01:01:49 PM
All ears.           :fire.:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:03:38 PM
The season was fast approaching, and our group was riding the highs of our Washington adventures right into preparations for Idaho. The players were similar to years past, with only one new addition. The annual email was sent out months in advance, and went as follows:

"Hello Team Awesome!
 
The crew has been tentatively finalized for the season, with Michael as our only new addition this season.
 
A little about each of you, since some are not familiar with others:

Evie is my mom, and a mountain fiend! She tries to pretend she's the slow one of the group but we are all aware she can hike circles around us all. She's retired from the XXXXX School District as a cook, so she's accustomed to early mornings, and can spot those big bucks with the best of us. We're looking forward to spotting yet another big bull elk together for Michael, similar to Jeff's from this past season. If you're in the market for a bollo tie or a stunning bugling bull elk on a glass window, she's also your perfect contact. 😉

Derrick is a hulk of a man with legs powered by protein shakes and mango caffeine packets. He somehow puts up with my shenanigans and I'm fortunate enough to call him my partner. He's OCD when it comes to organization, and will build a backcountry camp to rival any setup a guided service might offer. Just give him some chocolate and some parachute chord and he'll make it happen. 😊 He's also carrying a hunting tag in his pocket for the first season! Let's make this happen!
 
Storm is a mountain man from Oregon that builds world class log homes for a living, but spends his spare time enjoying the outdoors. An ace fisherman, fixed-wing pilot, an intermediate survivalist (he has eaten more plants than I'm sure most of you would dare), and a father of two awesome boys, who can't come hunting with us or there'd be no more big bucks within a 10 mile radius. 😊.
 
 Jeff is one of the other veterans of this hunt... he harvested a really beautiful 4x5 with eyeguards on the first day and ended up being a professional pack mule by the end of the trip. He chases sea lions and seals across remote beaches ranging from Alaska to California and beyond for a living... perhaps sometime you'll have to ask him how the Galapagos Islands are! A semi-professional fisherman (he used to get paid to fish all day), avid hunter, and gear junkie, he's friendly enough to shake hands with a bear and knowledgeable enough to successfully stalk one and spank it on the behind. :)

Michael is a dental professional from Louisiana. His wife and little girl have been generous enough to share him with us for a week while he searches for the mighty wapiti. He may not be accustomed to hills, but this guy has harvested and eaten more creatures than most of us have probably witnessed... even Jeff while he stares beaches loaded with sea lions! An avid fisherman and diver, Michael is excited to try his hand at an elk... although he won't be holding his breath; he does that enough while spearing massive ocean critters. :)   

AND... me: Kari. The silly person that bothers you with emails annually about our pending adventure; wildland firefighter, helicopter medical professional with a passion for pounding the hillsides. 
 
Attached is still our "Don't Die in Idaho" list with haves/needs. Let's start up the conversation on what people can bring, or would like to bring.
 
The one thing I'll be purchasing for us this season that we didn't have last year is a few more dry sacks for spare gear. Jeff got us another tent like a crazy person, so I think we will be sitting pretty up at spike... (or ultra spike?)
 
Any other thoughts on wants/needs?
 
Thanks,
-Kari"
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:09:42 PM
The crew was set, as was the totes full of adventure gear and food. I had just finished buying some frivolities (mini pies for everyone to enjoy with some spiked cocoa for one evening) when I received a phone call that altered our hunt: Storm had been very busy building another masterpiece of a home in Eastern Oregon while his wife was keeping the home fires burning. While performing chores around their property, she injured her back and was completely immobile... he wouldn't be able to meet up with us in 3 days for the hunt. We talked a little more, and agreed we would still take his share of food and camp gear and leave it at our vehicle in a tote; if he came, he just needed to grab the items from our car using our hide-a-key and get himself to base camp. We were all sorely hoping his wife had a quick recovery... not only for her sake, but for Team Awesome's as well. 
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:20:30 PM
The day arrived when the four of us traveling from Washington convened at my parent's home. Jeff's truck was loaded to the gills with all his new gadgets, and I quietly mused as to how we were to fit any deer in that thing on our trip home. My mother was taking her own vehicle, as she planned on coming out a little earlier than us "kids". Jeff had burned a "Big Buck" mix for each vehicle, and we took off from central Washington ready for whatever Idaho could throw at us. Michael was planning on flying into Boise and renting a car to meet us later that night, and we confirmed he made his flight. Team Awesome, minus Storm, was on the move! As we enjoyed lunch in a town about halfway to our destination for the evening, we received a phone call from Michael: he had arrived in Boise and was at a Fish and Game tag purchasing kiosk... he asked Jeff why the general season non-resident elk tags weren't showing up as an option for purchase. After some further digging, we had discovered that for the first time in a decade, a non-resident elk tag cap had been reached... Michael hadn't yet purchased an elk tag (due to family reasons dictating this as the best move for him) and now that option was off the table. He had no interest in meeting up with us simply to tag along, so after a few hours of discussing options and considering the situation, he decided to book a return flight back to Louisiana. Jeff was sick with disappointment, feeling that he had let down his friend (although as we reassured him, none of us were Idaho experts, and in all our time hunting there it had been a non-issue to pick up a tag even after the season had started). With heavy hearts, we scrambled that evening to downgrade gear and food for the next day's trek and tried to realign our attitudes for the fun adventures yet to come. What a way to start 12 days in the wilds!!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:31:58 PM
The morning of departure arrived, and we enjoyed breakfast at our usual cafe prior to departure. The steps of the establishment were armored with minuscule spikes of frost lit up by the welcoming glow from inside. The town wasn't quite awake yet, aside from this favorite establishment of hunters and locals alike. As the morning sun climbed over the surrounding peaks and battled through the eerie layers of fog and clouds, we parked our vehicles and commenced our adventure. By noon, we had base camp set up in our normal haunt with firewood, water, and bedding set up for the four of us. We used the InReach to message Storm and let him know we left his spot open as we packed up our spike camp setup and hit the hills. By nightfall, we had the titanium stove in spike camp burning red hot and had spotted a few "last few days" bucks in the surrounding basins. We had found one career 3x3 that my mom was pretty excited about... using my dad's famous line she had quickly claimed "I'd shoot it!". If we didn't find something else she was excited about in the next few days, that buck was definitely on her hit list. There was more snow this year than in the past few seasons; the game plan we had created in our heads prior to arrival MIGHT be off the table, but we were still planning on attempting it at first light. We all rested our heads, finally releasing the stresses of our absent comrades and allowing the anticipation of the adventures to come fill those voids.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:38:14 PM
"I'd shoot it!"
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:50:37 PM
The morning hum of alarms started a flurry of activity: the fire was rekindled, JetBoils heralded the aroma of fresh coffee, and morning meals were consumed. We all geared up in various stages of quickness... which generally meant I had 10-20 minutes of glassing the surrounding basins before our big push for the day was to start.  :chuckle: The same bucks revealed themselves on the steep slopes, milling around small groups of does waiting to get lucky. With no big boys in sight and everyone loaded with the daily essentials, we took off up the main drainage with the intention of completing around a 14 mile, 9,000 (gain/loss) foot elevation day. In snow. Deep snow.  :o .

We hiked around the next bend, revealing another drainage to glass. After finding more small bucks and large groups of unattended does, we continued our trek. We were now in shin/knee deep snow in the drainage and had only made it a fraction of the planned distance for the day. The four of us continued around the corner, revealing the next drainage. Tracks high on the ridgelines revealed evidence of our intended targets, but no animals. We continued up and on. Eventually, I realized I was hiking, and I wasn't having fun. I looked behind me and saw the same emotions etched into my mother's face. I made a command decision.

"Jeff, Derrick... my mom and I are going to go back to the last drainage and gain that ridgeline. I just don't see many animals wanting to be up this high right now."

The discussion continued, and we all agreed: Derrick and Jeff were hell-bent on completing the Google-Earth route we had planned from the comfort of our desks, but my mom and I were heading back to where I knew we could find some animals. We parted ways, and my mom and I worked back around the corner to gain the drainage with some tracks but no visible animals.

The hike was tough: knee deep snow gave way to shin deep slush as we gained enough elevation to trek the sun-kissed slopes.

I looked at my mom and smiled: "We're already 1/4 of the way to the top! We only have to do that effort 3 more times!" ...she was not impressed :chuckle:
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 01:54:03 PM
((stopping here waiting for photos to load to the right folder... will write more when photos can accompany the storyline))  :dunno:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Oh Mah on March 31, 2018, 01:57:38 PM
Great read so far,I would buy the book.  :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: JakeLand on March 31, 2018, 02:01:23 PM
sounds great! Good read already
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Post by: jstone on March 31, 2018, 02:05:36 PM
Love hunting Mule Deer in the snow. Great read
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Post by: Timberstalker on March 31, 2018, 02:10:03 PM
Tagging along. Thanks for sharing, Hirshey.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 02:22:42 PM
Video of that day's conditions: (don't scroll through my Instagram profile if you haven't... or else some of the story's particulars will be spoiled.  :chuckle: )

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbyGiEDDRsA/


(Couldn't figure out how to embed video from Instagram, so link is best I can do...  :dunno: )
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 02:28:09 PM
The day prior... a little less snow when we explored right outta spike.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 02:41:23 PM
Still working on how to get the photos how I want, but we will continue since at least we have a visual on the snow we were working with...

My mother and I continued to hammer away at the elevation we needed to gain... 27 or 54 steps at a time. When I hit a big hill, for some reason counting is therapeutic... I've found depending on the angle I take at a big hill like the one we were on, 27 steps allows me to keep my breath well enough to glass without fogging up my optics, or take a shot should the right situation present itself. (I hike with my firearm in my backpack similar to how my mom's is presented in that last photo, so obviously I'm not one to take uncalculated shots...) 54 steps pushes me a little, but knocks off a little distance if I don't think any new terrain is becoming exposed. Either way, we knocked out that many steps, and glassed and continued that regimen. The skyline seemed to become more obtainable each time we rested, but I could tell my mom was getting tired. "When we get to the top, we can glass all those basins and ridgelines for an hour or so. We're almost there." I reassured her. As we crested the ridge, evidence of ungulates became obvious; ceanothus was encircled with tracks, even though we were hip deep in snow. We found a good rock to nestle up to, and dug out spaces to sit, grab some sustenance, and glass for our targets. 500 yards below us on a sweet hidden bench we watched a few up-and-comers posture at each other before deciding to save their energy for the right situation. They settled into knee-deep snow in hiatus from activity for the afternoon. Each nook we glassed revealed more deer, but few were bucks large enough to cause us to pause. Snickers in hand, I pressed my back into the rock behind me and reveled in a small bit of sunshine for my own pause.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 02:56:55 PM
Feeling a little revived from my afternoon treat, I picked up the binoculars again. Confident in my assessment of the upper drainages, I started to carefully scan the lower slopes.

"Mom. I think I found one you might be interested in!"

"Where?"

After a few moments of explaining landmarks and zeroing in on the buck's location, my mom agreed: she would at least like to look at it a little closer. We still had plenty of days left to make it happen, but if she wanted that buck, now was as good of a time as any to put a stalk on it. We packed up, and started the mile or so journey and 3,000 feet in elevation loss to get into position. At first, we made great progress: going downhill in waist-deep snow is actually pretty easy... you just kinda lean forward and keep your feet moving. As it thins out, you almost ski down... but when it thins out enough and the ground beneath it is frozen solid, it ends up being downright hazardous. We picked our route to close the last 500 yards carefully, not only for detection's sake, but for the health of our knees and ankles. The buck had bedded with a doe down a small drainage from us: I ranged them at 250 yards. Wielding my .243, my mom had never shot at an animal at that distance, so she wanted to get closer. I asked her to look at the buck one more time and make sure it was one she wanted. She confirmed, and I stayed put as she tried to use what little terrain we had left between us and the deer to her advantage to close the distance to a comfortable range.

Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:06:46 PM
She had dropped her pack at my rock, and did the "boot scoot and boogie" down the small fold in the hillside, with the intention of making it to a small rock about 50-75 yards in front of us. The trek there went better than expected (we had thought in the least she would stand the pair up) and she put the buck in her scope. A 200 yard shot, and a laying shot were new territory for her. I tried to make some noise to get the pair to stand as I started to film. The video I was taking shook violently, as I did NOT expect a shot while the two were laying down. When I got the lens back into position, the doe was staring at the buck, chewing her cud, as he lay completely lifeless next to her. She had taken advantage of the opportunity for a neck shot, and had placed it right where it was needed. She looked back at me and gave me a thumbs up as I ended the video. I grabbed our packs and worked down to her. In amazement, we both commented on the fact that the doe was STILL bedded next to the buck. I couldn't help myself: half curious, half in morbid fascination I videoed while my mom worked down to examine her prize. The doe looked from my mom back to the buck several times before finally standing when my mom was less than 100 yards away. The doe finally relented to the fact that her fella wasn't going to follow her when my mom closed the distance to about 50 yards. My commentary in that video will probably only be shared with family and friends.  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:08:38 PM
I sent Derrick and Jeff a message on the InReach letting them know of my mother's success and glided/stumbled down the frozen slope to share in the moment.

(video of the packout: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbyG-tdjqt3/ )
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:20:44 PM
Derrick and Jeff arrived to our location just as dark set in (and just in time for sherpa duties!). They celebrated in my mom's success, and on our hike back to spike camp they recounted the struggles of their day; heavy, heavy snow with little to no animals seen. Overall, a good lesson in not spending any more of our energy trying to go that direction. We enjoyed evening beverages in the comfort of our 8 man tipi and discussed the game plan for tomorrow: it was decided to take a quick peek in our target drainages in the morning... if we didn't see anything of interest, we would take my mom's deer back to base camp and gain another ridgeline with the intent of ending the day's adventures back at spike camp. We all slept soundly, aided by long day's work and a little whiskey or wine.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:26:46 PM
The next morning, we trekked up the steep slopes fueled by coffee and oatmeal. Our target basins revealed the same bucks we'd encountered in previous days, as well as an interesting surprise; my mother's carcass was completely consumed. Everything aside from the rumen and a pile of hair had been consumed overnight. The culprits were easy to determine in the snow above our prep site even if the characteristics of the scene had not been obvious...
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:30:29 PM
Since our basins hadn't yielded the caliber of buck we were seeking (that mature age class was our goal moreso than antler configuration) we packed up my mother's deer and headed back to base camp.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
We decided to stay the night at base camp and enjoy the comforts of loftier sleeping bags and one of our "fresh meals". The target area for the next morning would remain the same as we had previously discussed, but we'd have more time to comb over every nook and cranny for the bucks we were seeking. I wouldn't say we sprung out of bed the next morning, as the previous few days had created a few aches and pains, but we were all packed and ready for the day's adventures and starting to gain the slopes as a mixture of freezing fog and low-passing clouds shrouded our trek.
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:44:48 PM
The sun waged war against the fog and clouds, and provided us with solid windows of visibility to glass the areas we were most interested in seeing. It started to become apparent to us that the older age class of bucks we were accustomed to being able to find were going to be more difficult to obtain this season. In the last 3-4 hours of the day we glassed up that same career 3x3 we had seen on multiple occasions before... he was still the dominant buck in his basin... no big boys were coming to usurp him. Derrick decided that he would be very happy at an opportunity at that buck, so with my mother and Jeff watching, we picked our way across the terrain to try to close the gap.

Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:51:03 PM
The day simply wasn't meant to be ours, as was evidenced by the barrage of snow, freezing fog, and wind that met us halfway through our stalk. In a break in the weather we were able to see the buck still bedded. We planned on using the next wave of fog to gain our final position, but shivering and impatient, we moved a moment too soon. When the next window of visibility arrived, the buck had worked his way up the open hillside. I ranged him at an inconsistent 340-380 yards depending on what the instrument could pick up, and we decided not to push him anymore that day. We watched him crest a ridgeline, pushing his harem in front of him.

 
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
By the time we had worked our way to spike camp in the last moments of visibility, it was confirmed: Derrick had a bone to pick with that 3x3, and over any other animal on the hillside, that was the one he wanted to come home with. We made a good game plan for the next day based on the typical behavior of that animal as well as his last known location, with the intention of getting Derrick his second ever deer... one I was set on SEEING go down this time! I had a difficult time sleeping that night out of excitement... personally watching Derrick go from curious observer, to participant, to active hunter had been a very proud moment for me... it had slayed me in Washington to not be there for his first harvest, so I was excited to make amends here in Idaho. The wind shook the sides of our tipi, the glow of the stove slowly waned, and the morning EVER so slowly arrived. 
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Post by: Oh Mah on March 31, 2018, 03:59:40 PM
great pics. what is it that you are using on the muzzle of the rifle?
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 04:03:13 PM
great pics. what is it that you are using on the muzzle of the rifle?

There are these really cool things I'm pretty sure are called "gun condoms" we used to keep debris/moisture out of the barrel of the rifle. They are SUPER handy for muzzleloaders, especially when we used to hunt the west side. We found its actually a lot cheaper and just as effective to just cut the fingers off of latex gloves and tape it on with electrical tape. You can shoot right through it, no worries and it adds that peace of mind that you don't have any debris in your barrel when you're hiking through timber and brush all day.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Oh Mah on March 31, 2018, 04:18:05 PM
Awesome thanks for the tip.
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Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 04:27:39 PM
We started the day with a high level of confidence that we'd be boning out an animal on a steep slope sometime that morning; the weather had calmed down, we were all feeling physically rested, and we had seen that 3x3 nearly every day of the hunt. Our confidence turned out to be ill-earned, because noon came and left with no sightings of our intended prey. We found smaller bucks and scattered does, but many of the familiar animals were nowhere to be found. Eventually, Jeff and my mother left to gain the high ridgeline and get a different perspective, while Derrick and I pushed towards the far basin to gain access to the hidden bench I mentioned the day my mother harvested her buck. We were working our way up an open ridge, spotting small groups of animals above us and in each valley, but still not that 3x3. A younger deer we photographed earlier (many of you looked at that photo :chuckle:) with a few fun extras stood up and started traversing towards a few does. As much as we were trying to let him age out a few more years, we hadn't seen much else and temptation won. I offered the idea that perhaps Derrick should pursue that buck. We talked about the benefits/drawbacks of that idea for a few moments before he consented. We were coming up with a game plan, watching as that buck started interacting with those does, when our game plan went out the window; that buck expressing interest in those does was all it took to get the 3x3 to materialize from a fold in the snow and defend his turf... the two postured at each other in a never-ending standoff.

"Want to get into position and 1,2,3 shoot? You can have your 3 and I'll take the sticker buck..."

We abandoned our packs at our perch. Our pace increased, even with the unforgiving slope as we tried to gain another 800 feet in elevation and close the distance to under 250. We wanted to get to a small bench in a rock outcropping and assess the situation from there. We lost sight of the two competitors as we worked our way up the rocks, out of sight from the unsuspecting animals. Derrick later admitted to having a HUGE rush of buck fever, especially with the notion of both filling our tags together, but even the most exciting plans are sometimes not meant to be... whatever happened while we were out of sight, the 3x3 had asserted his dominance, and the sticker buck was 700 yards and retreating up the hill and out of sight. The 3x3 was bedded with his does, and within proficient distance for Derrick. I assured him I did NOT mind whatsoever that he tagged out solo, and he set up for a shot. Even though it worked out well for my mom, I advised Derrick NOT to try to shoot the buck in the bedded position; I told him I'd howl and get them to stand up. I had my optics on them, not wanting to miss a moment when I let out a howl. All eyes were our direction, but nobody decided to stand. I waited 15 seconds and tried again. Same. I decided to transition from a laying position to a crouched position so the animals could see my silhouette... in the process, I took my optics off of the deer.

***BOOM***

I jumped, in shock at the sound I wasn't anticipating yet again, and scrambled to get my bearings back and my binoculars up on the deer. I got the buck in my view just in time to watch him do a forward cartwheel in the snow.

"Should I shoot him again??"

"No, he's down for good! Congrats love!!!"

We made a game plan and I snapped a quick photo through my scope of his prize (empty chamber with safety on). Derrick was going to stay and watch for another moment until he felt confident the deer was not mobile. I was going to ascend for our gear and meet him at the deer.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 05:05:00 PM
I was so excited to get up to him that the weight of a couple packs and deep snow hardly seemed an obstacle, but I did snap a few photos as an excuse to take a breather on the way up.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 05:10:58 PM
We decided to use terrain and gravity to our advantage; we performed a controlled slide with the deer until we ran out of snow and were able to find something resembling flat ground to work on for processing the animal. My mom and Jeff quickly arrived and we took some more photos and got to work.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
We made it back to spike with heavy packs and light hearts, knowing half the tags had been filled. Coming up with a game plan on how to find animals for the last two tags seemed a heavier task, though. My mom had left the site of Derrick's deer a little early to ensure some daylight hours to pack up her belongings from spike camp. She was hoping to stick around to see most of the tags filled, but some of the big days early on coupled with the grand plans and schemes to come brought her to the decision that she was ready to head for home.. the snow added another element of fatigue, and she knew herself well enough to know she was ready to call it while she was still having fun. After our brief stop at spike for a few belongings, we hit the hills with the heavy load of Derrick's deer accompanying us to base camp. We discussed over warm beverages and venison chili what the next few days' adventures looked like, and shared our last evening in the hills with my mom for this trip.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 05:37:58 PM
We were all a little slow getting out of sleeping bags by this point in the trip, but managed to help my mom pack some of her belongings before hitting the hills for a big day of exploring new ground. We headed off in a new direction, intent on putting in a sizeable loop for the day. As time would reveal, we spotted a handful of decent bucks well into rut behaviors, but just none of those older class animals we had our hearts set on. We witnessed plenty of predator activity in the form of additional wolf tracks, two hunter kills they had claimed similar to my mother's carcass, and tracks following fresh elk tracks. Jeff's heart ached once more when he photographed a bull elk Michael would have been lucky to have an opportunity to pursue. We made it back to base camp again that evening with an appreciation for the new ground we'd covered, and little in the way of a game plan for the morning. We decided to see how our feet felt as we climbed in my 12 man tipi, only 3 strong at this juncture.

Now, to divert from the main storyline here... if anyone has been reading my adventures for long, you may have recalled that my buddy Jeff has an ongoing war with the mice in Washington AND Idaho alike... for some reason, he wakes up to them crawling across his face, pooping in his coffee cup (organic grounds??  :chuckle: ), and chewing on his snacks. He's karate chopped a few to their demise in the nights... but their brethren always come back to avenge them. Usually, it is only Jeff they bother. But we came back to base camp that evening to find "treasures" over all of our belongings, and clothing chewed to pieces. It was decided the little buggers had to pay, so with a few of the buckets we'd brought, we fashioned water traps: fill the bucket 1/3 with water, put peanut butter 3 inches below the rim, provide a ramp to the rim, and the little guys try to snag the peanut butter and fall in. Derrick and I were welcomed back out of sleep in the dead of the night to Jeff's triumphant celebration and the sound of splashing not once, but twice. Shirts stayed intact and droppings seemed to cease showing up down at base camp after that.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 05:53:54 PM
In the morning, our tired feet dictated that we probably trek familiar terrain. We agreed to gain a well-traveled ridge, glass a few basins, descend into a drainage and conquer another peak we had found some good animals on in years past. The plan didn't get put too far into motion, because as we ascended the first 700 feet of elevation I paused to glass a hillside across the drainage from us.

Apparently I have a certain posturing and tone I get when I find an animal I'm excited about, because without having put glass on the animal, Jeff and Derrick both knew my initial reaction was positive. I guided them in to the buck's location, and Jeff started to take photos. We reviewed them, and it reinforced my enthusiasm for pursuing that buck. I asked Jeff to stay put and watch the buck, who was on the move pushing a few does across the steep, rocky terrain. Derrick and I would drop back down in elevation and ascend the ridge adjacent to him, hoping for an opportunity to catch him moving across the terrain, or move in on him. I flew to the bottom and started unpacking my bag with the exception of the essentials. We had planned on staying up at spike for a handful of days so I was carrying a lot of extra weight. Derrick was slower navigating the frozen terrain, so he was still halfway up the hill when I crossed the stream and attacked the same slope the buck had been navigating.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 05:59:20 PM
I kept climbing, keeping an eye on a rock feature the buck had been below when I had last seen him. Up, up, up. I slowed as my ascent brought me into position where I thought the buck might be able to see me. I communicated with Jeff on the InReach as Derrick caught up.

I can't recall the precise words exchanged, but the gist of the conversation was that as Jeff looked down to message me, he had lost sight of the buck. He couldn't find him on the hillside anymore, and I did not have eyes on him either. All actions to move across the hill paused as we all searched for him... we could all see the doe he had expressed the most interest in, but none of us could turn up the buck. I told Derrick I was going to use the terrain and a small tree to my advantage to get a different angle. He stayed put.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:02:40 PM
The minutes crept into hours as I painstakingly crawled across the hillside using any cover I could find to change views while keeping my eye on the buck's doe. He HAD to be close, but every time my mind accused a branch of being an antler tip, or a log of being a small view of his body, I was able to recuse the notions. Where was he?
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
Jeff continued to search the hillside from his viewpoint, assuring me the buck HAD to be there someplace, but also unable to turn him up.

I decided to plan on the buck eventually wanting to tend to his doe, so I scooted slowly into position, crab-walking down a sandy slope with the aim of making it to a small fir tree for cover. Thrice I paused as the doe heard the hillside loose pebbles down the frozen slope. All three times, she eventually lost interest and looked away. I made it to the fir tree and continued to scan the hill... I was rewarded with an abrupt end to my waiting; the buck was working through a small stringer of timber headed right for his babe. I flipped my scope covers up, propped the stock on a small branch of the fir tree, and tracked the buck with my crosshairs.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:15:31 PM
He was on the move: not running, but intent on getting to his doe. All he had to do was pause for a moment, and I knew he'd be mine. I anticipated that moment coming after he disappeared behind a boulder and met up with the doe on the other side, but he stopped, perfectly broadside with his head behind the rock but his vitals exposed. I squeezed the trigger. The recoil didn't even take him out of my scope; I watched him kick and furiously sprint up the hillside after the doe. I knew he wouldn't make it far as I witnessed the crimson coloration right behind his shoulder grow to the size of a dinner plate. He switched directions and I briefly second-guessed myself and wondered if I should take a follow-up shot, but he was out of sight on the steep slope more quickly than the thought had emerged. At last glance, I saw him stumble. YES.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:21:56 PM
I gathered my composure and my belongings and headed across the frozen, rocky drainage in pursuit. I pulled out my InReach and my heart sank.

"I see him!" "He's moving through the trees" .... all things I considered were prior to the shot.

"Get ready for a shot!""He got up!"

...what??  :yike:

I stumbled around the ridge, looking downhill of the last location I saw him, and scanning the hillsides around. I pulled out my InReach to ask if the buck really was still on the move when the messages: "You smoked him!" "he's down! congrats, friend!" arrived. Those previous messages had been sent prior to my shot... but the wording definitely had my heart going. I scanned the hillside and found my buck caught in the brush less than 10 yards from where I stood. All that stress for nothing!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:22:23 PM
I took a moment to marvel at him before Derrick arrived.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:25:05 PM
 :tup:

((Jeff's video of the shot: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb0M3VID-8e/ ))
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:31:06 PM
Jeff hustled off of his slope and arrived at our location much faster than I imagined, and we hauled that beautiful buck to a small saddle and commenced caping/boning operations. Aces at this point in the season, we arrived back at base camp with plenty of light to spare. We celebrated, ate extremely well, and looked forward to having 3 days to get Jeff into a beauty of his own. 
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:46:38 PM
The following day brought us back up to spike camp, with a few encounters with new bucks, but still no king of the mountain in areas of good genetics in previous years. We found ourselves arriving back at spike camp after a blustery day to a foul surprise: the mice had found us up at spike camp in the snow, too! The casualties were high: collapsible coffee cups were chewed through, pants were sodden with feces and urine, another shirt was scattered with holes, bivy sacks were compromised... and they even put a hole in the boxed wine bladder, which then soaked items in wine.... those RATS! ...err.. mice!! Jeff concocted yet another mouse trap... he put some peanut butter in a gallon ziplock bag. When the mice crawled in to enjoy the snack, he commenced his signature karate chop. Two mice found their demise that night, and again evidence of tampering ceased. Our plan for the next day found us exploring the peak we had intended to navigate the day I harvested my buck. Intermittent snow storms made glassing a little difficult, but we gained a good vantage point about the time the weather decided to cooperate.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
Working through a fold in the terrain, we spotted a buck bedded below us. It was a better buck than most we had found this year, and initially it took a while to talk Jeff off of the trigger, but we continued around the hillside towards a deep, steep drainage.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 06:56:04 PM
It appeared for a brief period of time that the first few days' lessons of the hunt had not quite sunk in for my pair of hunting partners... their initial instinct was to conquer the head of the drainage, which had significant snow and very little to no tracks. There were a handful of animals at the snow line, but they were ones I was certain we had pushed from lower terrain earlier in our trek. After a few moments toying with the notion, we all agreed to slowly pick apart the deep drainage as we traversed towards the valley it fed. We were not too far into our descent when a rocky terrain feature forced us to skirt its lower edge. As we picked our way around it and through the thick buck brush, a small gap in the vegetation caused me to pause as I looked downhill. I squatted. "BUCK". I mouthed.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:07:04 PM
Derrick froze as Jeff bumped over into position so he could see. The buck was bedded 125 yards below us on the steep ground. It had us pegged, but must have had confidence in the fact that the detection was not mutual. The buck appeared to be at/outside its ears, and heavier than most anything we had found this trip. All I could say for certain was that it had at least 3 points on each side. As Jeff set up, I reminded him that if he didn't like it, we could continue down the hill. We had plenty of days left to explore. He acknowledged, and ultimately decided that this buck got him excited, and he would be elated to take it home with him. He switched the safety off as Derrick and I stayed trained on the buck with our binoculars. The blast made my ears ring. "Darn it! I need to take better care of my hearing!" I thought, as I shouted "YEAH! Great shot!" in excitement. The buck never stood out of his bed. It did, much to our dismay in its last moments, roll off of the rock cliff behind it and out of sight. Our excitement yielded to fret for a few minutes while we navigated the steep terrain in pursuit of the temporarily lost buck. We recovered him almost at the bottom of the slope, but in an excellent position for processing. We gave our prey a moment of respect and admiration before starting to break it down before nightfall fully engulfed us.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:07:23 PM
Jeff's buck
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:13:07 PM
The logical option for us was down the drainage and down the valley back to base camp. On frozen, steep ground that is easier said than done, but we managed to make it there before too long, and celebrated with beverages and other hot meal. What were we to do with ourselves for the remainder of the hunt now that Jeff tagged out?? Well, there were still those wolf tags...  :dunno:  We decided to spend the morning fetching spike camp, and then spending the next few days trying to locate some wolves and exploring new spike camp options for next year.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:22:25 PM
Taking down spike camp went smoothly, and we explored a few areas of interest with the remainder of the day's light. We had great intentions of exploring some promising terrain the last full day, so we went to bed early to ensure we had the energy for the daunting task at hand.

The coyote's song beat the first rays of light, and we listened to them while stoking the fire and making the morning coffee. When the noises persisted, I finally started to pay them mind: those were challenge barks, or something similar. I told my companions that I thought those critters might have something they were fighting for/over. Either way, Jeff wanted to see if we could put a stalk on them, so he and I took off while Derrick prepared lunch for the day. As we closed in on the noise, we finally pinpointed two coyotes skylined on an opposing ridge. They were looking down into a small fold in the hillside, still chiding and challenge barking. Jeff took some photos, and I communicated that we really needed to keep an eye on that small drainage; those animals weren't making noise just to make noise. They disappeared over the hillside, and as I moved up in elevation to match Jeff, he exclaimed that he saw something: wolves! As I sat to confirm, he corrected himself... the coyotes had simply come to the top of the draw, and they looked a lot bigger momentarily. From this angle, however, I finally spotted what had caught the attention of the coyotes: a deer carcass at the base of a few trees. As I continued to examine the scene, it finally became clear what we were looking at. "Jeff!!!" I grinned. "COUGAR!"
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:25:00 PM
I talked Jeff in to the scene I was witnessing, and he grabbed his camera. We snapped a few photos, but now the wheels were turning.

As far as available tags, a cougar was pretty much the only thing we didn't have. We started InReaching folks to try to amend this issue. Within a couple hours, we had a confirmed tag, and a method to get it to us... it was going to be a few hours until we had it in our hot little hands. We decided to scale the hill anyways, just to see if we could get some closer photos before setting up on the kill later that evening.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:33:49 PM
We probably got a little too excited trying to get better quality photos of the cat, and didn't set ourselves up well for the opportunity to hunt it later that day. We waited out the evening light with little to report. The next morning, the only creature that could consider that deer a meal were the scavengers: whether the coyotes, cougar, or wolves got a hold of it, it was gone, along with our chances of trying to get on that cat.

Overall, we saw elk, deer, bighorn sheep, cougars, Jeff got to see wolves... it was yet another soul-filling adventure. Maybe next year we will come in strong with all members of Team Awesome, as well as the necessary tags to be able to immediately put action on some of the more rare opportunities. So grateful for my tribe!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:34:21 PM
((additional photos))
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Twispriver on March 31, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
Great Story as always - thanks
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on March 31, 2018, 07:45:34 PM
A few more
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Skillet on March 31, 2018, 08:08:07 PM
Always enjoy the hunt stories Hirshey, thanks for sharing :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 31, 2018, 08:23:59 PM
Thanks for sharing, keep it up!   You have a writer's gift!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Caseyd on March 31, 2018, 08:58:28 PM
Like always an amazing read and adventure  :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Widgeondeke on March 31, 2018, 10:16:55 PM
Enjoyed every word.
The only reading I've enjoyed lately.
Thank you @Hirshey
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Okanagan on March 31, 2018, 11:03:53 PM
Thank you for all of the work to write it and post it along with pics.  That's a gift and I enjoyed reading every bit of it. 


Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Timberstalker on April 01, 2018, 01:51:04 AM
Great write up. That’s a whole lot of memories and good times.  :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: TVHunts on April 01, 2018, 05:42:10 AM
Thank you for all of the work to write it and post it along with pics.  That's a gift and I enjoyed reading every bit of it.


Ditto...another awesome read by Hirshey!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: CaNINE on April 01, 2018, 08:35:45 AM
Team Awesome does it right! Thanks for sharing  :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: bracer40 on April 01, 2018, 09:08:09 AM
Thank you so much for putting your story and pics up. Enjoyed every word!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: C-Money on April 01, 2018, 09:37:08 AM
Great story!! What an adventure! Congrats to you and the team on all your success!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on April 01, 2018, 09:58:40 AM
Congratz Looks like a great season filled with memories and nice animals!  :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: RB on April 01, 2018, 02:57:24 PM
Looks like another amazing season!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Brushbuster on April 01, 2018, 03:59:59 PM
Thank you for taking us along on your adventure.  :tup: Congrats on your success.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: jstone on April 01, 2018, 05:32:27 PM
Always look forward to reading your stories. Great adventure as always. Thank You
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: JasonG on April 01, 2018, 06:58:04 PM
Thanks for sharing! I know it take time to share !
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Wingin it on April 01, 2018, 10:16:45 PM
Outstanding write up as always! Thanks for sharing. 🍻
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Gringo31 on April 02, 2018, 06:17:09 AM
Congrats and thanks for sharing....


I was getting excited when you all decided to go after the predators!  Very cool and well done.  :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 02, 2018, 08:28:59 AM
 :tup: well done. Figured you guys got snowed in and just decided to stay and live off grid.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Colorado Kid on April 02, 2018, 08:58:49 AM
It is such an honor to be a part of "team awesome", especially when everybody else puts in the effort to bring along the ol' gal. I would not have been able to enjoy such awesome adventures if it weren't for the generosity and consideration the rest of the team gives. If more people emulated these young members of team "awesome" the world would be a much better place. I look forward to encountering future young hunters who have the same spirit, enthusiasm, and mindfulness as these companions who have shared their hunt with me. I am proud to see the person my daughter has become. As it has been said many times before, it isn't about the trophy as much as it is about the time spent with family and friends! Here's to all of your next adventures.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: bracer40 on April 02, 2018, 09:07:15 AM
It is such an honor to be a part of "team awesome", especially when everybody else puts in the effort to bring along the ol' gal. I would not have been able to enjoy such awesome adventures if it weren't for the generosity and consideration the rest of the team gives. If more people emulated these young members of team "awesome" the world would be a much better place. I look forward to encountering future young hunters who have the same spirit, enthusiasm, and mindfulness as these companions who have shared their hunt with me. I am proud to see the person my daughter has become. As it has been said many times before, it isn't about the trophy as much as it is about the time spent with family and friends! Here's to all of your next adventures.
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Colorado Kid on April 02, 2018, 12:07:22 PM
. The buck had bedded with a doe down a small drainage from us: I ranged them at 250 yards. Wielding my .243, my mom had never shot at an animal at that distance, so she wanted to get closer. I asked her to look at the buck one more time and make sure it was one she wanted. She confirmed, and I stayed put as she tried to use what little terrain we had left between us and the deer to her advantage to close the distance to a comfortable range.
Just to clarify why I haven't taken shots over 200 yards is because I have been muzzleloading for deer and elk for the last 20 plus years  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: Timberstalker on April 02, 2018, 12:26:36 PM
It is such an honor to be a part of "team awesome", especially when everybody else puts in the effort to bring along the ol' gal. I would not have been able to enjoy such awesome adventures if it weren't for the generosity and consideration the rest of the team gives. If more people emulated these young members of team "awesome" the world would be a much better place. I look forward to encountering future young hunters who have the same spirit, enthusiasm, and mindfulness as these companions who have shared their hunt with me. I am proud to see the person my daughter has become. As it has been said many times before, it isn't about the trophy as much as it is about the time spent with family and friends! Here's to all of your next adventures.

Awesome stuff right here.
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: W_Ellison2011 on April 02, 2018, 09:52:49 PM
These sort of write ups are what makes the off season bearable! Can't wait for next years write ups! Keep that team going!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 02, 2018, 11:02:22 PM
Tag to read later :tup:
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: hirshey on April 03, 2018, 07:13:01 PM
Thanks all... sorry I haven’t been as active a participant as I have been... I am holding a second job in the off-season of fire, and somehow I blinked and it’s almost fire season again! 🙈🤷🏻‍♀️ Oops!

I sure do cherish this community though... thanks for all the love and support through the years! Can’t wait for the next adventure!
Title: Re: Hirshey's Idaho Hunt 2017
Post by: kellama2001 on April 05, 2018, 08:03:16 PM
Found this thread late, but loved reading every word! Thanks as always for taking the time to post all the adventures of Team Awesome...you all are an inspiration!  :bow:
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