Post by: Bob33 on April 15, 2018, 03:17:58 PM
Post by: Westside88 on April 15, 2018, 04:18:17 PM
Post by: Tbar on April 15, 2018, 04:23:06 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 15, 2018, 04:37:47 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on April 15, 2018, 04:44:30 PM
Peaches, observatory, or goose east rifle or white river west I don't think there are any real good choices.
All of these are terrible choices if you do not know the ground. Bull tags are not quality tags so you are best off hunting ground that you know holds bulls during the time of the hunt. I’ve seen a lot of people draw the peaches bull tag to just waste their time because it is not a given tag and you need to know where the bulls are in October. White river is mostly gated and over hunted by the tribe.
All of these units can be good if you know the ground at the time of the hunt but if you don’t just put in for what you do know.
Post by: White Pass Outfitters on April 15, 2018, 07:08:42 PM
Post by: Stein on April 15, 2018, 07:09:29 PM
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Post by: teanawayslayer on April 15, 2018, 07:22:12 PM
Post by: Westside88 on April 15, 2018, 07:41:47 PM
Post by: Tbar on April 15, 2018, 08:43:10 PM
Depends on what class of bull your looking for. If your just want a 320 bull any of those units have them and some 350 bulls. Its just a matter of doing your homework or hiring someone to do it for you. The tags are hard to come by and harder to swallow. I suggest having more than one plan just in case, could be another bad fire season.Just a 320? I'm all for harvesting mature animals but there's more to life than antler score. You come across as to discount the hunt aspect of it. Many "dream" hunts end with less than 320 bulls.
Post by: teanawayslayer on April 15, 2018, 08:56:10 PM
very, very trueDepends on what class of bull your looking for. If your just want a 320 bull any of those units have them and some 350 bulls. Its just a matter of doing your homework or hiring someone to do it for you. The tags are hard to come by and harder to swallow. I suggest having more than one plan just in case, could be another bad fire season.Just a 320? I'm all for harvesting mature animals but there's more to life than antler score. You come across as to discount the hunt aspect of it. Many "dream" hunts end with less than 320 bulls.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 15, 2018, 09:01:58 PM
I initially thought you were asking about quality Bull tags. With the “Bull” tags I think your best bet is an area you know, or are willing to spend some time learning. For the most part I’ve been putting in for points, because I don’t want to take the chance of drawing more than one tag. East side tags probably make the most sense, since it’s spike only without a special tag
Odds are 1:100 - don't worry about getting impossibly lucky twice in a year.............
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 15, 2018, 10:04:37 PM
Elk hunting will be starting to go down hill in the central wa units. I had wolves on one of my cameras for the 2nd year in a row. There's wolves in all three of the areas someone mentioned in one of the posts. Peaches will be a blood bath once the wolves start figuring out where the elk are in the burn scar.
Post by: wheels on April 15, 2018, 11:07:21 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 16, 2018, 05:30:22 AM
Post by: Bob33 on April 16, 2018, 07:41:38 AM
- I understand that odds of drawing a good permit with 18 points are still very low: around 3% to 5% for most of the hunts I’m considering. Having 18 points is sort of “no man’s land” where you don’t want to throw away the points on a mediocre hunt, but don’t really have enough to have excellent odds of drawing a quality permit - but still hold out hope you will. Given that, this is probably a “one and done” with Bull permits. I’ll probably not apply again once drawn.
- I care little about the size of the animal. I’m more concerned about the quality of the hunt than the animal. A quality hunt to me means good odds of seeing some animals and not being overrun by other hunters.
- I am considering applying in areas I’m not completely familiar with. If drawn I will do my homework.
Thanks again for the feedback.
Post by: dreamingbig on April 18, 2018, 10:46:35 PM
Eastside or Westside, Modern or Muzzleloader (I have multi-season elk): what permits would you consider applying for?Your favorite! Good luck and may the draw odds be with you!
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Post by: White Pass Outfitters on April 19, 2018, 06:49:14 AM
very, very trueDepends on what class of bull your looking for. If your just want a 320 bull any of those units have them and some 350 bulls. Its just a matter of doing your homework or hiring someone to do it for you. The tags are hard to come by and harder to swallow. I suggest having more than one plan just in case, could be another bad fire season.Just a 320? I'm all for harvesting mature animals but there's more to life than antler score. You come across as to discount the hunt aspect of it. Many "dream" hunts end with less than 320 bulls.
I believe I said depends on what your after, I do agree and always have said its about the hunt and not the size of the animal. I have killed 360+ Bulls and a lot smaller Bulls, and with saying that my most memorable hunt was with my Dad and brother and a 300 Bull. But as a Outfitter hunters are always asking % of kills and average size of the bulls we are taking.
Post by: Falcon on April 19, 2018, 06:50:13 AM
Depends on what class of bull your looking for. If your just want a 320 bull any of those units have them and some 350 bulls. Its just a matter of doing your homework or hiring someone to do it for you. The tags are hard to come by and harder to swallow. I suggest having more than one plan just in case, could be another bad fire season.Just a 320? I'm all for harvesting mature animals but there's more to life than antler score. You come across as to discount the hunt aspect of it. Many "dream" hunts end with less than 320 bulls.
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Post by: White Pass Outfitters on April 19, 2018, 06:56:20 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 19, 2018, 07:03:55 AM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on April 19, 2018, 08:46:06 AM
Post by: SkookumHntr on April 19, 2018, 10:29:48 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on April 23, 2018, 08:06:21 AM
Thank you to those who’ve contributed input, and PMs. Here are a few of my thoughts:In response to the above, I would look at a muzzleloader hunt rather than a rifle. Better time if year to find elk and less people running around. If it were me, I would pick the observatory Muzzy tag. It’s a fun hunt.
- I understand that odds of drawing a good permit with 18 points are still very low: around 3% to 5% for most of the hunts I’m considering. Having 18 points is sort of “no man’s land” where you don’t want to throw away the points on a mediocre hunt, but don’t really have enough to have excellent odds of drawing a quality permit - but still hold out hope you will. Given that, this is probably a “one and done” with Bull permits. I’ll probably not apply again once drawn.
- I care little about the size of the animal. I’m more concerned about the quality of the hunt than the animal. A quality hunt to me means good odds of seeing some animals and not being overrun by other hunters.
- I am considering applying in areas I’m not completely familiar with. If drawn I will do my homework.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Post by: Bob33 on April 23, 2018, 08:23:15 AM
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, the only Observatory hunt in the "Bull Elk" category is for Modern. The muzzleloader hunt is in "Quality".Thank you to those who’ve contributed input, and PMs. Here are a few of my thoughts:In response to the above, I would look at a muzzleloader hunt rather than a rifle. Better time if year to find elk and less people running around. If it were me, I would pick the observatory Muzzy tag. It’s a fun hunt.
- I understand that odds of drawing a good permit with 18 points are still very low: around 3% to 5% for most of the hunts I’m considering. Having 18 points is sort of “no man’s land” where you don’t want to throw away the points on a mediocre hunt, but don’t really have enough to have excellent odds of drawing a quality permit - but still hold out hope you will. Given that, this is probably a “one and done” with Bull permits. I’ll probably not apply again once drawn.
- I care little about the size of the animal. I’m more concerned about the quality of the hunt than the animal. A quality hunt to me means good odds of seeing some animals and not being overrun by other hunters.
- I am considering applying in areas I’m not completely familiar with. If drawn I will do my homework.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Post by: blackpowderhunter on April 23, 2018, 12:38:03 PM
did they take it away? i thought before there was a muzzy bull tag that actually was good through the next weekend as well.Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, the only Observatory hunt in the "Bull Elk" category is for Modern. The muzzleloader hunt is in "Quality".Thank you to those who’ve contributed input, and PMs. Here are a few of my thoughts:In response to the above, I would look at a muzzleloader hunt rather than a rifle. Better time if year to find elk and less people running around. If it were me, I would pick the observatory Muzzy tag. It’s a fun hunt.
- I understand that odds of drawing a good permit with 18 points are still very low: around 3% to 5% for most of the hunts I’m considering. Having 18 points is sort of “no man’s land” where you don’t want to throw away the points on a mediocre hunt, but don’t really have enough to have excellent odds of drawing a quality permit - but still hold out hope you will. Given that, this is probably a “one and done” with Bull permits. I’ll probably not apply again once drawn.
- I care little about the size of the animal. I’m more concerned about the quality of the hunt than the animal. A quality hunt to me means good odds of seeing some animals and not being overrun by other hunters.
- I am considering applying in areas I’m not completely familiar with. If drawn I will do my homework.
Thanks again for the feedback.
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Post by: MonstroMuley on April 24, 2018, 11:07:25 AM
Try Montana:tup:
Post by: Igottanewknee on April 24, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 24, 2018, 07:19:52 PM
My daughter has 13 quality points..... yeah, she's 25...... any suggestions on that one????Pray ! heh. Put in for Toutle or Mudflow.
Post by: dscubame on April 24, 2018, 09:47:39 PM