Post by: Commando on April 19, 2018, 01:17:23 PM
Post by: Tim in Wa. on April 19, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Post by: Commando on April 19, 2018, 11:00:48 PM
Post by: X-Force on April 19, 2018, 11:20:35 PM
I have no experience with the slick bag but kifaru makes so many wideths, lengths etc. that if you want that design an center zip I知 sure it will fit. If you are hard on your gear it痴 probably an excellent option.
The price is what gets me from pulling the trigger and trying it out. I知 not hard enough on my sleeping bag to justify it
Post by: Tim in Wa. on April 20, 2018, 05:48:44 AM
Post by: dreamunelk on April 20, 2018, 06:06:44 AM
Post by: ian_padron on April 21, 2018, 11:41:54 PM
Those slick bags are HUGE when packed up, not to mention about 2x as heavy as treated down...
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Post by: Commando on April 24, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
Post by: Jason on April 25, 2018, 02:38:45 AM
Post by: ian_padron on April 25, 2018, 04:05:59 PM
What痴 the advantage of a quilt vs a bag? I知 open to get either one and was just curious on the advantages of a quilt1) weight: my 0ｰ EE quilt (long/wide) weighs 31 ounces
2) more flexible: I use the same quilt all summer long, mostly in blanket mode. I have slept with it down into the teens with zero issue.
3) cost: quilts are like half as expensive as a comparable down bag.
4) efficiency: down bags don't keep your back warm because you compress the fill when you lay on it. You're essentially paying for something you can't take full advantage of. A quilt on the other hand has no insulation on the back. Just batten it down around your insulated sleeping pad (high R value...like 5+ for winter camping) and you're toasty warm.
Only time I'd ever consider a bag over a quilt was if I knew the *censored* was going to hit the fan. Subzero temps, snowing sideways, etc...then a bag is nice to completely disappear into, head and all.
Hope that helps!
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Post by: Commando on April 25, 2018, 10:41:43 PM
What痴 the advantage of a quilt vs a bag? I知 open to get either one and was just curious on the advantages of a quilt1) weight: my 0ｰ EE quilt (long/wide) weighs 31 ounces
2) more flexible: I use the same quilt all summer long, mostly in blanket mode. I have slept with it down into the teens with zero issue.
3) cost: quilts are like half as expensive as a comparable down bag.
4) efficiency: down bags don't keep your back warm because you compress the fill when you lay on it. You're essentially paying for something you can't take full advantage of. A quilt on the other hand has no insulation on the back. Just batten it down around your insulated sleeping pad (high R value...like 5+ for winter camping) and you're toasty warm.
Only time I'd ever consider a bag over a quilt was if I knew the *censored* was going to hit the fan. Subzero temps, snowing sideways, etc...then a bag is nice to completely disappear into, head and all.
Hope that helps!
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That does help. Thank you
Post by: addicted on April 25, 2018, 10:59:01 PM
My buddy loves his slick bag. He is the kind of guy that runs wool instead of down and a 12 lb frame pack instead of the new ultralight stuff so he isn't the type to complain about more weight. He has been warm while guys next to him were shivering.
Post by: Commando on April 26, 2018, 12:57:14 PM
Post by: ian_padron on April 26, 2018, 04:19:03 PM
Would a 20 degree quilt do good for sept elk? Or would you guys go with a 0 or 10 degree?Where are you hunting in September?
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Post by: addicted on April 26, 2018, 04:35:29 PM
Would a 20 degree quilt do good for sept elk? Or would you guys go with a 0 or 10 degree?
I'm probably doing a 30 quilt for that
Post by: Commando on April 27, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
Would a 20 degree quilt do good for sept elk? Or would you guys go with a 0 or 10 degree?Where are you hunting in September?
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I知 gonna be hunting the west side
Post by: X-Force on April 27, 2018, 10:39:41 AM
Call up Kifaru. They will give you solid info on which would be best for your application.Would a 20 degree quilt do good for sept elk? Or would you guys go with a 0 or 10 degree?Where are you hunting in September?
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I知 gonna be hunting the west side
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 27, 2018, 11:49:23 AM
That along with the fact that they are lighter and easier to toss/turn within, leads me to rarely bring anything else. Only time I go with a bag is when I'm truck camping and/or backpacking in real cold
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 27, 2018, 11:50:30 AM
A high quality synthetic insulation like that will save a life in cold and wet conditions. :tup:
Post by: Commando on April 28, 2018, 12:06:27 AM
Post by: Jason on April 28, 2018, 08:30:17 AM
Well after reading a bunch of different reviews I am thinking I値l go with a EE quilt probably the revelation in 10 or 20 degree. I知 a warm sleeper so probably the 20I went with the 10* from EE because their temp rating is based off a person sleeping with a base layer on.
Post by: Commando on April 28, 2018, 09:34:25 AM
Well after reading a bunch of different reviews I am thinking I値l go with a EE quilt probably the revelation in 10 or 20 degree. I知 a warm sleeper so probably the 20I went with the 10* from EE because their temp rating is based off a person sleeping with a base layer on.
Good to know thanks
Post by: ian_padron on April 29, 2018, 11:37:21 AM
You can always vent during the summer, but come fall if you're really beat up in the backcountry, under-fed, dehydrated, etc. you won't sleep as warm.
I sleep with a window open and fan blowing on me year round at home, but I've had several nights in the mountains where I sure was happy to have a 0ｰ quilt even though it was only 30ｰ or so. It's just tough to keep warm when you're pushing the limits in the hills for a few days. For an extra couple ounces it's totally worth it.
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