Post by: chuckster on April 26, 2018, 08:12:17 AM
Post by: scotrobe on April 26, 2018, 08:34:06 AM
I agree with you though. I wish it was 3 and 3 also.
Post by: baldopepper on April 26, 2018, 10:13:52 AM
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Post by: MerriamMagician on April 26, 2018, 12:46:29 PM
Post by: baldopepper on April 26, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
How hard of a hunt is the late season? If the hens are anything like they are right now it'll be a slaughter.It's not really even a hunt the last part of the season-it's just a harvest. I agree with the Magician, for the sake of the turkeys I hope most will target Toms. It could be a real slaughter if everyone takes advantage of the large flocks you see in December and whacks 4 hens.
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Post by: jasnt on April 26, 2018, 06:28:25 PM
Haven’t hunted the fall season in bout 10yrs. Not my thing I prefer Spring season that’s when it’s fun. Don’t care for the new rule, could be a slaughter over in the NE on the birds. The farms my dad hunts over in the NE had a lot of birds on them but over the years the population has been manages and back in balance, they took 4 Toms this Spring. Last fall I believe they took 3 or 4 hens. Management is key we don’t need a slaughter.the flocks I see in ne you ain’t making a dent with out double digits numbers! Fall and winter season we see flocks of 200-300 birds. The locals refer to them as feathered rats
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Post by: bigtex on April 26, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
And many of those same locals deny people from hunting their property. :twocents:Haven’t hunted the fall season in bout 10yrs. Not my thing I prefer Spring season that’s when it’s fun. Don’t care for the new rule, could be a slaughter over in the NE on the birds. The farms my dad hunts over in the NE had a lot of birds on them but over the years the population has been manages and back in balance, they took 4 Toms this Spring. Last fall I believe they took 3 or 4 hens. Management is key we don’t need a slaughter.the flocks I see in ne you ain’t making a dent with out double digits numbers! Fall and winter season we see flocks of 200-300 birds. The locals refer to them as feathered rats
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Post by: The Gobble-stopper on April 26, 2018, 07:42:11 PM
I don’t hunt the fall seasons at all, the spring hunts are what I live for and I do too much big game hunting anyway to hunt them in the fall. I would urge most fall hunters to still try to target male birds. Lots of people shooting lots of hens will put a hurting on the population in a hurry.I agree, unless you are down on your luck and your belly is really aching for a meal. Save the hens for layin eggs. Do the sport, shoot toms and preserve our future... And have fun
Post by: Hangfire on April 26, 2018, 07:55:31 PM
Post by: jasnt on April 26, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
not the locals I help out. The roost trees have a 15’ circle of turkey carp 12” deep!And many of those same locals deny people from hunting their property. :twocents:Haven’t hunted the fall season in bout 10yrs. Not my thing I prefer Spring season that’s when it’s fun. Don’t care for the new rule, could be a slaughter over in the NE on the birds. The farms my dad hunts over in the NE had a lot of birds on them but over the years the population has been manages and back in balance, they took 4 Toms this Spring. Last fall I believe they took 3 or 4 hens. Management is key we don’t need a slaughter.the flocks I see in ne you ain’t making a dent with out double digits numbers! Fall and winter season we see flocks of 200-300 birds. The locals refer to them as feathered rats
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Post by: scotrobe on April 26, 2018, 08:45:39 PM
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Post by: Wacenturion on April 27, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
I don’t hunt the fall seasons at all, the spring hunts are what I live for and I do too much big game hunting anyway to hunt them in the fall. I would urge most fall hunters to still try to target male birds. Lots of people shooting lots of hens will put a hurting on the population in a hurry.
Exactly. Be careful what you wish for and think is such a great deal. Most at WDFW hate turkeys and if they had their choice would get rid of every last one of them. Just a way of hoping they can reduce numbers. As MM said....shot males only. Lead hens are the flock's built in safety. Flock goes where they lead them. They are also productive birds as they are proven nesters. Males are always excess.
Post by: Wacenturion on April 27, 2018, 12:14:27 PM
And many of those same locals deny people from hunting their property. :twocents:Haven’t hunted the fall season in bout 10yrs. Not my thing I prefer Spring season that’s when it’s fun. Don’t care for the new rule, could be a slaughter over in the NE on the birds. The farms my dad hunts over in the NE had a lot of birds on them but over the years the population has been manages and back in balance, they took 4 Toms this Spring. Last fall I believe they took 3 or 4 hens. Management is key we don’t need a slaughter.the flocks I see in ne you ain’t making a dent with out double digits numbers! Fall and winter season we see flocks of 200-300 birds. The locals refer to them as feathered rats
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Exactly.
Post by: birdmanwa on April 27, 2018, 12:35:41 PM
I talked to local and Olympia Bio's at public meetings, about that very thing this past winter (punch card). There seemed to be people within the agency in support of a multiple bird tag at about $20. They all agreed the current price to high for the fall season. The high price is limiting hunting in fall. We do not have near the hunting pressure we used to have. All the agents I talked to said this past years survival is the best they have ever seen.
I think the price of turkey tags is a joke. I love turkey hunting but it's dumb to pay around $20 a tag for a spring bird let paying $20 for a fall bird. Butterballs still taste better. This state doesn't care about turkeys but like when people buy licenses. I don't see the fall hunting hurting the population. The weather during nesting will has a bigger effect but I don't like the idea of September 1st opener. The polts are still tiny.
The population in the NE is rebounding but it's not like it was pre 07/08.
Post by: Moe the Sleaze on April 27, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
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Post by: HookedOnQuack on April 27, 2018, 04:54:51 PM
I don’t hunt the fall seasons at all, the spring hunts are what I live for and I do too much big game hunting anyway to hunt them in the fall. I would urge most fall hunters to still try to target male birds. Lots of people shooting lots of hens will put a hurting on the population in a hurry.
This is exactly what happened in the area of Idaho we deer hunt. Several years ago they opened it up during the fall for either sex and multiple birds. We used to see hundreds while out deer hunting and that following year you were lucky to see double digits in a week. That didnt last long before they put an end to it and the population has rebounded nicely but far too many people were just driving roads and slaughtereing birds that were all packed in under the trees out of the snow
Post by: ribka on April 27, 2018, 05:02:02 PM
Deer in the state
Kill Most of the mule deer does by
Issuing extra tags then wonder why deer numbers are down dramatically
In a few years the ones who want to shoot multiple turkeys every year will come on here and complain about the
Reduction in turkeys
Anyone else see a pattern?
Post by: Russ McDonald on April 27, 2018, 09:01:45 PM
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Post by: jasnt on April 28, 2018, 06:05:23 AM
Post by: BPturkeys on April 28, 2018, 11:04:52 AM
Not going to be a long season. Now required that you wear hunter orange during anyone the is a general rifle season going on. Huge beacon saying I am right here turkey. So that would break the season up if you ask me.
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Most people...certainly not all.. road hunt or hide in blinds anyway so wearing hunter orange won't make even a little difference in the harvest number. And I am not so sure color of clothing really makes that much difference as long as your face is covered and you hold still...but must admit, never actually hunted turkeys in blaze orange...have you Russ?
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Post by: BPturkeys on April 29, 2018, 07:11:05 AM
This is why turkeys will walk right up to a blind, or car, or building without fear...it does not move. I do believe turkeys notice unusual things in their environment and do stop, stare and watch for movement, but react based upon any movement rather than color or shape.
Now, it might just be my imagination, but it seems to me that turkeys can somehow sense danger in a way we don't understand. Ever had a turkey go into that "danger" mode when you know you have not been seen. Of course you have. They can't smell you, they can't see you, and yet something has tipped them off...any ideas??
Post by: jasnt on April 29, 2018, 08:24:48 AM
I think the population can handle the added bag limits at least in my areas,117,124,121. This fall season is when folks need to be knocking on doors and asking permission. This is when the turkeys really start to be a Nuisance to land owners. Much easier to get permission for the spring hunt when you help the land owner with fall problems.
Targeting toms is fine when Tom to hen ratios are good. But if there are way more hens than toms then there’s no competition and toms won’t be coming ing in to calls in the spring as they will have plenty of hens to tend right in front of them. Need to keep these ratios in balance.
As stated above the winter kill prob takes way more birds than hunters do! May as well take the surplus animals before Mother Nature does.
Post by: bearpaw on April 29, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
Post by: Gobble Doc on April 29, 2018, 08:35:51 PM
I hope they didn't make too substantial of an increase all at once. I think they should have made it private land only for a couple years to see if that would help move birds off the areas where problems are are caused. By placing all this pressure on public land birds it might cause a very negative impact for public land hunters in the long run.Agreed
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Post by: jasnt on April 29, 2018, 11:20:19 PM
ill second that!I hope they didn't make too substantial of an increase all at once. I think they should have made it private land only for a couple years to see if that would help move birds off the areas where problems are are caused. By placing all this pressure on public land birds it might cause a very negative impact for public land hunters in the long run.Agreed
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Post by: tgomez on May 02, 2018, 11:01:57 PM
How hard of a hunt is the late season? If the hens are anything like they are right now it'll be a slaughter.It's not really even a hunt the last part of the season-it's just a harvest. I agree with the Magician, for the sake of the turkeys I hope most will target Toms. It could be a real slaughter if everyone takes advantage of the large flocks you see in December and whacks 4 hens.
I agree I hope people target Toms. Hens don't have any meat on them anyways. 😂 :chuckle:
Post by: Jimmer on May 06, 2018, 08:05:08 AM