Hunting Washington Forum

Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: WDFW-SUX on March 12, 2009, 05:23:06 PM


Advertise Here
Title: Good bear info
Post by: WDFW-SUX on March 12, 2009, 05:23:06 PM
http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=bearbaiting.main


If only our state would see the light.
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: rasbo on March 12, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
good read, wish we had a spring drawing for baiting permits
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: WDFW-SUX on March 12, 2009, 06:26:07 PM
good read, wish we had a spring drawing for baiting permits


Me too.
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: merlo105 on March 12, 2009, 07:02:06 PM
Im glad we cant bait or run hounds, We have the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 and the numbers arent hurting anything if your having a problem going out and tagging bear then you need to fix it hunt harder. I see 10 15 bear every season. If your looking for them you'll find them
 
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: Airnip on March 12, 2009, 08:48:43 PM
Did enjoy reading this.

Do sort of get the idea that baiting is supposed to allow the harvester to be more selective toward taking mature males.

Also that advance arrangement of firing zone can set up for a clean killing shot. There is some bowhunting club with shot placement pictures on line much clearer than the given one.Saw it somewhere. In the meantime while no tennis ball circle drawn; here is an anatomy page from a booboo bear place:
http://www.americanbear.org/anatomy.htm (http://www.americanbear.org/anatomy.htm)
In a book titled "Bear Attack" by Stephen Herrero there is a self defense shot placement picture. Looks like the bear is wearing a necklace, or a short bib. Shot is a semi-circle under the head above the leg joints. In all my clicking around reading bear stuff never seen this online.

 Not understanding the Alaska salvage requirement ?
Salvage Requirements
Units 1-7, 11-17 and 20

January 1 – May 31; the hide, skull and edible meat (the meat of the front & hind quarters, and back straps) must be salvaged and removed from the field
June 1 – Dec 31; the hide and skull must be salvaged and removed from the field
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: Branden on March 12, 2009, 09:07:55 PM
Im glad we cant bait or run hounds, We have the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 and the numbers arent hurting anything if your having a problem going out and tagging bear then you need to fix it hunt harder. I see 10 15 bear every season. If your looking for them you'll find them
 

Agreed. Bears are probably the easiest animals to hunt. No reason to make it too easy. Then it would just be called killing and not hunting.
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: PWN Kurt on March 13, 2009, 10:48:15 PM
I have mixed feeling on baiting.  One one side, we can be more selective on trophies and gender.  On the otherside, I feel it's not as sporting...might habituate bears to human food.  Also, they have linked some diseases to feeding sights for other wild animals.

As it is, I think bear hunting in Washington is good:  Good numbers of bears and hunting them is a fair challenge.
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: stumprat on March 13, 2009, 11:11:12 PM
Im glad we cant bait or run hounds, We have the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 and the numbers arent hurting anything if your having a problem going out and tagging bear then you need to fix it hunt harder. I see 10 15 bear every season. If your looking for them you'll find them
 

GLAD we can't bait or run hounds? How about those of us that have enjoyed these hunts. If you find no sport in it, or think it's an easy kill you are mistaken.
You do not end up treed on every race. We had the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 while this hunting WAS legal. Do you know how much timber damage results from bear?
Let alone fawn mortality.

It's not a matter of hunting harder. I just don't enjoy shooting my bear as it feeds in a berry patch. Or killing the first bear I see. Running hounds allows you to be selective.
Hunters in my opinion need to be more carefull about what we deem sporting. I do not agree with all forms of legal hunting methods. But it is not my place to make that decision for someone else. WHEN WE DO THAT WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE!     Whew now I feel better ;)

Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: billythekidrock on March 14, 2009, 06:17:10 AM
Im glad we cant bait or run hounds, We have the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 and the numbers arent hurting anything if your having a problem going out and tagging bear then you need to fix it hunt harder. I see 10 15 bear every season. If your looking for them you'll find them
 

GLAD we can't bait or run hounds? How about those of us that have enjoyed these hunts. If you find no sport in it, or think it's an easy kill you are mistaken.
You do not end up treed on every race. We had the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 while this hunting WAS legal. Do you know how much timber damage results from bear?
Let alone fawn mortality.

It's not a matter of hunting harder. I just don't enjoy shooting my bear as it feeds in a berry patch. Or killing the first bear I see. Running hounds allows you to be selective.
Hunters in my opinion need to be more carefull about what we deem sporting. I do not agree with all forms of legal hunting methods. But it is not my place to make that decision for someone else. WHEN WE DO THAT WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE!     Whew now I feel better ;)



 :yeah:
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on March 14, 2009, 06:28:38 AM
Airnip

I can answer part of your question about why the two different dates and of saving and not saving the meat.

Areas 1-7 are on the coast and all the islands. Bears usually come out around end of April and start eating Kelp after about a month of that there is nothing you can do with the meat. I saved some after that time frame and had it made into snack sticks. I can say that I lost a few friends over that, it was by far the worst tasting stuff I have ever eaten.

11-17 & 20 when I went to the bear baiting class while stationed there they talked about parasites and worms in the bear do not know if true,  not true, or half true, all I know that in area 20 I took three bears there in two weeks all around end of May beginning of June and they tasted just fine.

Joe 
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: Airnip on March 14, 2009, 07:35:19 AM
Thank you for clearing up part of this baffling regulation. Somewhere here is a thread showing pictures of Washington dead bears alive with worms. Old riddle is what's worse than finding a worm in an apple? Finding half a worm. These bear pictures show worm infestations that look like a store bought fish bait cups.

Still don't get why the skull year round?
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: shanevg on March 14, 2009, 12:15:19 PM
I personally don't mind the lack of baiting and hounding in this state.  It keeps the bear moving around more and when you're up in the hills hunting bears you don't get disrupted all of a sudden by a pack of dogs come running through your area.  But I do respect the rights of the hunters that do appreciate this form of hunting.  I think a good compromise would be to allow the spring  permit holders to use bait and hounds.  That way, if you get drawn, you could use them, but you could also spot and stalk.  Also, the baiting and hounding wouldn't be done in the peak of bear season when there are many more hunters in the field. 
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: WDFW-SUX on March 15, 2009, 09:19:52 AM
Quote
GLAD we can't bait or run hounds? How about those of us that have enjoyed these hunts. If you find no sport in it, or think it's an easy kill you are mistaken.
You do not end up treed on every race. We had the highest bear numbers in the lower 48 while this hunting WAS legal. Do you know how much timber damage results from bear?
Let alone fawn mortality.

It's not a matter of hunting harder. I just don't enjoy shooting my bear as it feeds in a berry patch. Or killing the first bear I see. Running hounds allows you to be selective.
Hunters in my opinion need to be more carefull about what we deem sporting. I do not agree with all forms of legal hunting methods. But it is not my place to make that decision for someone else. WHEN WE DO THAT WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE! 


x3
Title: Re: Good bear info
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on March 15, 2009, 03:54:45 PM
Airnip you are required to bring the skull into fish and game or to your taxidermist and they seal it. That is the reason for keeping the skull.

Joe
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal