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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: LongBomb on April 30, 2018, 08:33:02 PM

Title: N Bend white horned bull
Post by: LongBomb on April 30, 2018, 08:33:02 PM: Anyone know if this bull is still around? Took these pics from Napas parking lot. Wondering if that horn ever falls off.
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Post by: LongBomb on April 30, 2018, 08:35:17 PM: another not real clear it was early
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Post by: Dan-o on April 30, 2018, 08:39:56 PM: Interesting.
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Post by: LongBomb on April 30, 2018, 08:53:43 PM: here is a poorly shot video of it and another bull. I ran into a biologist up there and he said it was likely caused by an injury of some sort.
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Post by: LongBomb on April 30, 2018, 09:01:57 PM: Well maybe not it won't send as MOV i will get it after a bit
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Post by: usmc74 on May 01, 2018, 07:28:02 AM: How long ago were those taken?
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Post by: LongBomb on May 01, 2018, 08:53:23 PM: July 30 2016
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Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on May 11, 2018, 10:25:00 AM: LongBomb,
This Bull isn’t the first to hold onto an old antler while growing new ones.
In fact, the condition has a name: Doppelkopf. It’s a German word that means “double set,” and it’s a condition documented in numerous species of deer.
In normal bucks, a cyclical drop in testosterone level in winter triggers the shedding of antlers. In Doppelkopf bucks, something in the cycle fails.
“Abnormal or failed antler casting has been reported in association with the maintenance of high testosterone levels after the breeding season, damage to nerves involved in antler growth, and nutritional stress......... David Osborn and Dr. Karl V. Miller of UGA and antler-growth expert Dr. George Bubenik of the University of Guelph in Ontario.
(Your Bull will be interesting to watch for in the future (if it isn't already an unusual addition hanging on the wall in some other hunters collection.)
Doug
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 11, 2018, 11:52:39 AM: way cool
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Post by: JWEBB on May 11, 2018, 09:44:03 PM: Nice! I’ve only seen one old bull like this in eastern wa back around 2008. Very cool
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Post by: LongBomb on May 12, 2018, 07:30:58 AM: Quote from: AL WORRELLS KID on May 11, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
LongBomb,
This Bull isn’t the first to hold onto an old antler while growing new ones.
In fact, the condition has a name: Doppelkopf. It’s a German word that means “double set,” and it’s a condition documented in numerous species of deer.
In normal bucks, a cyclical drop in testosterone level in winter triggers the shedding of antlers. In Doppelkopf bucks, something in the cycle fails.
“Abnormal or failed antler casting has been reported in association with the maintenance of high testosterone levels after the breeding season, damage to nerves involved in antler growth, and nutritional stress......... David Osborn and Dr. Karl V. Miller of UGA and antler-growth expert Dr. George Bubenik of the University of Guelph in Ontario.
Your Bull will be interesting to watch for in the future (if it isn't already an unusual addition hanging on the wall in some other hunters collection.)
Doug

Interesting. I haven't been back since i took the pics. Maybe i will have to go snoop it out again.
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Post by: yakimanoob on May 12, 2018, 07:18:45 PM: Cool!!