Post by: sagerat on May 04, 2018, 08:38:44 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 09:07:24 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on May 04, 2018, 09:12:04 AM
Post by: X-Force on May 04, 2018, 09:16:35 AM
I agree with Jackelope that St. Helens may have easier to access units.
Post by: outdooraddict on May 04, 2018, 10:21:28 AM
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 04, 2018, 10:22:26 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 04, 2018, 10:25:16 AM
Baker is definitely no joke. I think the St Helens and Margaret permits will be in some rugged country. There was some real tough country in the Goat Rocks, I think I got pretty lucky where mine was. There's the whole rugged terrain thing to worry about, but there's also snow and weather concerns to consider as well.I love how you stuck with waiting longer in the season to get a better hide, and then the clouds parted just enough for you to go get your goat! I think it should be mandatory that you post a pic of your billy every time you post on goat threads!!! 😁
Post by: 7mmfan on May 04, 2018, 10:28:27 AM
Baker is definitely no joke. I think the St Helens and Margaret permits will be in some rugged country. There was some real tough country in the Goat Rocks, I think I got pretty lucky where mine was. There's the whole rugged terrain thing to worry about, but there's also snow and weather concerns to consider as well.I love how you stuck with waiting longer in the season to get a better hide, and then the clouds parted just enough for you to go get your goat! I think it should be mandatory that you post a pic of your billy every time you post on goat threads!!! 😁
I thought it was a requirement for all professional goat hunters to show their goats every chance they got anyway? Throw that baby up!
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 11:13:58 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on May 04, 2018, 11:15:50 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 11:17:05 AM
And there you have it. Better bring your jet pack.
It's amazing. Once I lost the skirt, I could find the path to get to him.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 04, 2018, 11:17:17 AM
And there you have it. Better bring your jet pack.:chuckle: love it Josh, wow!
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 11:19:47 AM
That pic was taken a really long ways away by Rainier10, then I zoomed in on it and took a screen shot of it.
Post by: 7mmfan on May 04, 2018, 11:24:02 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 11:30:09 AM
Post by: Bill W on May 04, 2018, 12:03:32 PM
One we did spot and I was waiting for him to come out to play would have required either a rappel down an ice wall or a drive up thru Sumas and then down Chilliwack and then some logging roads to the goat. It was right next to the border.
Post by: PlateauNDN on May 04, 2018, 12:09:14 PM
Post by: shanevg on May 04, 2018, 01:24:37 PM
I drew 20 years ago and some of the billies we spotted were in hanging valleys. No way to get to them expect with a helicopter and a net to catch them as they rolled off. I felt the area we drew had some of the nastiest (steepest) terrain in the state. My buddy shot a big billy. I didn't see a shooter.
One we did spot and I was waiting for him to come out to play would have required either a rappel down an ice wall or a drive up thru Sumas and then down Chilliwack and then some logging roads to the goat. It was right next to the border.
That unit is gnarly!!!
Post by: Rainier10 on May 04, 2018, 01:49:11 PM
It's not nearly as bad when you're over there. You pick your way through it and get where you need to get.I love that pic. It was first thing in the morning and I was so excited to be on a goat hunt I am not sure I was thinking straight. I know I talked you into going over there but everytime I look at that pic I think to myself, "Josh had every right to not want to go over there. I am not sure why I thought we could."
That pic was taken a really long ways away by Rainier10, then I zoomed in on it and took a screen shot of it.
I did know we had to try. Luckily it worked. The first part of "the path" on the way back with heavy packs was more than a little sketchy.
It really makes me think hard about what I will do when "I draw a tag long before I am due."
I think access on a good day is difficult. The weather really adds an uncontrollable variable to it. You can train and scout but if it's foggy or snowed in you are done, season over.
Unless for some unknown reason it warms up, rains for a week straight, melts two feet of snow and then turns to bluebird skies on a weekend that you invite some optimistic "Mr. positive" type of guy that you met on the internet to go try one last time. :chuckle:
Post by: bowhunterforever on May 04, 2018, 02:01:16 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?Im looking for more easy accessible units cause Im disabled. Defenitly open to any sugestions?
Post by: X-Force on May 04, 2018, 02:33:11 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?Im looking for more easy accessible units cause Im disabled. Defenitly open to any sugestions?
I believe there are a couple pictures of guys getting goats off of Rimrock lake later in the season. (goat rocks east)
If access and mobility is an issue you may want to put in for the raffle because there are more units available than in the permit units and blaze ridge has goats you can almost drive up to.
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 02:41:12 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?Im looking for more easy accessible units cause Im disabled. Defenitly open to any sugestions?
I believe there are a couple pictures of guys getting goats off of Rimrock lake later in the season. (goat rocks east)
If access and mobility is an issue you may want to put in for the raffle because there are more units available than in the permit units and blaze ridge has goats you can almost drive up to.
If it's the pics I'm thinking of, the hunter found the goat from a boat on Walupt Lake, hiked up to him, shot him and brought him out in the boat. I was told goats are occasionally seen from the lake if there's weather to push them down. This lake would be in the new west part of the hunt area. I thought it was Rimrock too.
Post by: Rainier10 on May 04, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
Even with good weather it wouldn't be easy by any means but you would take some of the weather factor out of it. Fog could still be an issue.
I told Josh if I drew I would have to seriously consider having someone pack me in on horses and set up a wall tent camp for 7-10 days. That would keep me in the goat area and give me the best shot at having a few good weather days to get it done without having to go all the way up and down the mountain every weekend or couple of days.
Post by: sagerat on May 04, 2018, 04:20:58 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?
Wow, this one really took off! A lot of good goat bs but I was hoping for more first hand knowledge of specific units. I’m definitely not disabled and am quite aware there are no easy goats. I’m well prepared for a backpack hunt deep into the unit but am not a mountain climber. That being said, I’ve seen a lot of goats in my travels. Most of them where they don’t offer permits. Some of those goats are in country not fit for man nor beast while others are in more hunter friendly haunts. Thanks for the advice given though.
Post by: jackelope on May 04, 2018, 04:55:46 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on May 04, 2018, 05:33:29 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?
Wow, this one really took off! A lot of good goat bs but I was hoping for more first hand knowledge of specific units. I’m definitely not disabled and am quite aware there are no easy goats. I’m well prepared for a backpack hunt deep into the unit but am not a mountain climber. That being said, I’ve seen a lot of goats in my travels. Most of them where they don’t offer permits. Some of those goats are in country not fit for man nor beast while others are in more hunter friendly haunts. Thanks for the advice given though.
I've drawn twice and filled once so I'd say I've got goat experience. :chuckle: again, are you looking for an accessible area with moderate terrain or backcountry scaling towers of death to chase the white dragons?
I've chased them in all terrains.
Post by: sagerat on May 04, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?
Wow, this one really took off! A lot of good goat bs but I was hoping for more first hand knowledge of specific units. I’m definitely not disabled and am quite aware there are no easy goats. I’m well prepared for a backpack hunt deep into the unit but am not a mountain climber. That being said, I’ve seen a lot of goats in my travels. Most of them where they don’t offer permits. Some of those goats are in country not fit for man nor beast while others are in more hunter friendly haunts. Thanks for the advice given though.
I've drawn twice and filled once so I'd say I've got goat experience. :chuckle: again, are you looking for an accessible area with moderate terrain or backcountry scaling towers of death to chase the white dragons?
I've chased them in all terrains.
I’m talking mountain goats. Not white dragons?
Post by: PlateauNDN on May 04, 2018, 05:52:16 PM
Are you looking for a rough and rugged live out of your pack hunt or are you looking for more easier accessible units?
Wow, this one really took off! A lot of good goat bs but I was hoping for more first hand knowledge of specific units. I’m definitely not disabled and am quite aware there are no easy goats. I’m well prepared for a backpack hunt deep into the unit but am not a mountain climber. That being said, I’ve seen a lot of goats in my travels. Most of them where they don’t offer permits. Some of those goats are in country not fit for man nor beast while others are in more hunter friendly haunts. Thanks for the advice given though.
I've drawn twice and filled once so I'd say I've got goat experience. :chuckle: again, are you looking for an accessible area with moderate terrain or backcountry scaling towers of death to chase the white dragons?
I've chased them in all terrains.
I’m talking mountain goats. Not white dragons?
In my 2 Mt Goat hunts I called them white dragons because they lived in places where wings were required, tallest peaks and only brave knights would venture to get them.
So, are you looking for moderate accessible terrain or sheer rock faces where the pucker factor is they the roof?
Post by: Bob33 on May 04, 2018, 06:02:19 PM
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
Post by: sagerat on May 04, 2018, 06:30:24 PM
if I had doubts about my ability to hunt in steep, rocky country on foot 3 to 5 miles from a vehicle, I would do one of two things: (1) apply in an area that has outfitters who could take me in and out on horseback, or (2) choose not to apply.
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
That’s good advice. I’ll stop asking about units and just randomly apply.
Post by: Tbar on May 04, 2018, 06:39:46 PM
:tup:if I had doubts about my ability to hunt in steep, rocky country on foot 3 to 5 miles from a vehicle, I would do one of two things: (1) apply in an area that has outfitters who could take me in and out on horseback, or (2) choose not to apply.
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
That’s good advice. I’ll stop asking about units and just randomly apply.
Put chowder first!
Post by: Tbar on May 04, 2018, 06:53:12 PM
Another positive about your random application is that you will probably never have to worry about learning a unit.if I had doubts about my ability to hunt in steep, rocky country on foot 3 to 5 miles from a vehicle, I would do one of two things: (1) apply in an area that has outfitters who could take me in and out on horseback, or (2) choose not to apply.
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
That’s good advice. I’ll stop asking about units and just randomly apply.
Post by: sagerat on May 04, 2018, 07:11:25 PM
Another positive about your random application is that you will probably never have to worry about learning a unit.if I had doubts about my ability to hunt in steep, rocky country on foot 3 to 5 miles from a vehicle, I would do one of two things: (1) apply in an area that has outfitters who could take me in and out on horseback, or (2) choose not to apply.
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
That’s good advice. I’ll stop asking about units and just randomly apply.
That’s true. So me not having wings or being a knight will never matter...
Post by: time2hunt on May 05, 2018, 07:48:05 AM
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Post by: Crunchy on May 05, 2018, 09:05:17 AM
Post by: blacktailer on May 05, 2018, 09:12:12 PM
:tup:if I had doubts about my ability to hunt in steep, rocky country on foot 3 to 5 miles from a vehicle, I would do one of two things: (1) apply in an area that has outfitters who could take me in and out on horseback, or (2) choose not to apply.
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
That’s good advice. I’ll stop asking about units and just randomly apply.
Put chowder first!
Good advice TBar ;)
Post by: sagerat on May 06, 2018, 08:16:36 AM
:tup:if I had doubts about my ability to hunt in steep, rocky country on foot 3 to 5 miles from a vehicle, I would do one of two things: (1) apply in an area that has outfitters who could take me in and out on horseback, or (2) choose not to apply.
It would be a shame to have a mountain goat permit that you couldn't do justice to. :twocents:
That’s good advice. I’ll stop asking about units and just randomly apply.
Put chowder first!
Good advice TBar ;)
What makes Chowder better than Avalanche and Lincoln?
Post by: 520backyard on May 06, 2018, 09:28:52 AM
Speaking of clouds parting, I drew with my partner and ended up getting mine alone as he couldn't make it that week. I went with him as he hunted for his the rest of the season to no avail as it was socked in for the rest of the season and that makes goat hunting almost impossible.Baker is definitely no joke. I think the St Helens and Margaret permits will be in some rugged country. There was some real tough country in the Goat Rocks, I think I got pretty lucky where mine was. There's the whole rugged terrain thing to worry about, but there's also snow and weather concerns to consider as well.I love how you stuck with waiting longer in the season to get a better hide, and then the clouds parted just enough for you to go get your goat! I think it should be mandatory that you post a pic of your billy every time you post on goat threads!!! 😁
Post by: RB on May 06, 2018, 10:09:23 AM
Step two: If it is for the Boulder River North follow the next few steps
A) Get to the trail head in picture
B) Hike to Goat flats
C) Glass rocks till you find the Goat you like
D) Hike to Goat shoot it
E) Pack out the next day and off to the taxidermist!
This is how my 2016 hunt went, the hardest part of getting a Goat is usually the tag. There has been some good advice in this thread so far and from some really experienced outdoorsman.
Post by: sagerat on May 06, 2018, 10:56:39 AM
Post by: addicted on August 11, 2018, 11:39:47 PM
Post by: sagerat on August 13, 2018, 08:48:25 PM
Hope the open the road before you draw it sagerat. It's only 17-18 miles on foot right now. :tup:
Haa, no kidding! Doubt I ever draw but if I did I would access the unit from another direction. It’s a different ball game now than when RB drew that’s for sure. Still some huge billies up there though!